No More AA Golf Carts at DFW?
Apr 12, 2018, 8:38 pm
#16
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The complaints about the new carts are valid, and the woman splitting her head (if not exaggerated) is concerning. However, is this really an AA decision? I'd think that the decision to use carts vs. the current carts would be up to DFW management, not AA... so it might not be Doug related at all.
Apr 12, 2018, 9:58 pm
#17
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Agreed. I like the 2 seat port side in Y. Also, if you aren't too close to the engines it can be quiet......especially in FC
Apr 12, 2018, 10:02 pm
#18
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You seem quite angry and stressed about the airport experience. Have you considered getting a service animal? Some passengers find them comforting.
Apr 12, 2018, 10:03 pm
#19
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Or just not flying, for that matter. Life's too short to be upset all the time.
Apr 13, 2018, 5:44 am
#21
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Smaller, more maneuverable, carts are better. Less potential for collision with pedestrians in the terminal. Sounds like an improvement to me. And I would imagine that there are safety standards and requirements for both operators and passengers of these vehicles, which both the "old" style and these new ones are subject to.
Even if it was AA's decision to use these vehicles - highly highly unlikely that it was Parker's decision. That's not what a CEO does...
Do you have any evidence to support that? Because it's not true, AFAIK.
Latest media and AA statements indicate that all MD-80s will be retired by the end of 2019.
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...80-replacement
MD-80s are the best narrowbody mainline aircraft in the fleet. It's a shame from a customer comfort standpoint that they going away (altough makes complete sense from a business standpoint).
Even if it was AA's decision to use these vehicles - highly highly unlikely that it was Parker's decision. That's not what a CEO does...
Latest media and AA statements indicate that all MD-80s will be retired by the end of 2019.
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...80-replacement
MD-80s are the best narrowbody mainline aircraft in the fleet. It's a shame from a customer comfort standpoint that they going away (altough makes complete sense from a business standpoint).
Apr 13, 2018, 9:54 am
#23
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I wish more airports did like CLT and just use pushed wheelchairs for those that need it. The cart drivers refuse to drive the speed of a normal walking pace and are a danger. The carts aren't designed to be a fast track to the gate for anyone who wants it. They're there to get those who NEED it to their gate.
Apr 13, 2018, 10:02 am
#24
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I wish more airports did like CLT and just use pushed wheelchairs for those that need it. The cart drivers refuse to drive the speed of a normal walking pace and are a danger. The carts aren't designed to be a fast track to the gate for anyone who wants it. They're there to get those who NEED it to their gate.
Apr 14, 2018, 7:03 am
#26
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I hold an unpopular opinion on this subject, and I actually have no idea WHY it's unpopular.
I'm happy for people to ride in a cart in single file with walking passengers.
I'm happy for people to ride in a cart, side-by-side with walking passengers.
But I simply don't understand "Step Aside For The Cart, Please".
Consider the floor area immediately in front of a walking passenger. Obviously, a cart has more right to that square footage than the walking passenger has. But ... why? Is it because carts have more rights than people? Or, instead, is it because people on carts have more rights than walking people?
How would you feel if you're walking toward your gate, and I chose to run, but the corridor is crowded, so I shout "Step Aside for the Runner"?
I understand that people ride carts. I understand that they need to use the same corridor as walking people. I just don't understand why people on carts have more right to use the passageway than walking people.
I'm happy for people to ride in a cart in single file with walking passengers.
I'm happy for people to ride in a cart, side-by-side with walking passengers.
But I simply don't understand "Step Aside For The Cart, Please".
Consider the floor area immediately in front of a walking passenger. Obviously, a cart has more right to that square footage than the walking passenger has. But ... why? Is it because carts have more rights than people? Or, instead, is it because people on carts have more rights than walking people?
How would you feel if you're walking toward your gate, and I chose to run, but the corridor is crowded, so I shout "Step Aside for the Runner"?
I understand that people ride carts. I understand that they need to use the same corridor as walking people. I just don't understand why people on carts have more right to use the passageway than walking people.
Apr 14, 2018, 9:57 am
#28
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I hate these carts -- old and new. They're fairly dangerous to walkers, and don't really save riders much time because they wait for an entire aircraft before departing. Why can't DFW use individual wheelchairs for those who need them like the vast majority of airports?
Apr 14, 2018, 12:08 pm
#30
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I'm happy for people to ride in a cart in single file with walking passengers.
I'm happy for people to ride in a cart, side-by-side with walking passengers.
But I simply don't understand "Step Aside For The Cart, Please".
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I understand that people ride carts. I understand that they need to use the same corridor as walking people. I just don't understand why people on carts have more right to use the passageway than walking people.
I'm happy for people to ride in a cart, side-by-side with walking passengers.
But I simply don't understand "Step Aside For The Cart, Please".
{snip}
I understand that people ride carts. I understand that they need to use the same corridor as walking people. I just don't understand why people on carts have more right to use the passageway than walking people.