Boarding Multiple Groups Together
#16
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I am sure that at some point boarding will be replaced by robots who can use AI to optimize the boarding process (this will likely happen a couple of years after Delta does it).
#17
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Why is this an issue? Is it really that important to get the privilege of sitting in a metal tube 30 seconds longer than some other guy? I can see being angry if it gets to the point that groups 6-8 are called early enough that they get on in front of you, because that is when overhead space becomes an issue. The airlines have hit marketing gold with this boarding thing. A "perk" that people will spend thousands of dollars a year to "earn" that costs the airlines nothing.
If I know the flight isn't full I usually wait until the line is gone before I get on.
If I know the flight isn't full I usually wait until the line is gone before I get on.
#18
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BG's and carry-on are closely aligned because they both go to the key benefit of boarding earlier in the process. Bear in mind that once upon a time, F had the privilege of boarding last when all the common folk were out of the way and the gate and boarding process was clear and quick.
AA has done a much better job recently of enforcing its carry-on policies, especially in the early BG's where self-entitled people who have fallen for the term "elite" created by marketers, think that the rules don't apply to them. While this does not entirely solve all OH issues, it certainly means that BG 1-4 are pretty well taken care of and even further down the line if things work well.
The BG 2-3 distinction is meaningless and a feel good tossed to EXP's flying in Y. If strutting past others takes the sting out of it, so be it. But, it serves no practical purpose.
AA has done a much better job recently of enforcing its carry-on policies, especially in the early BG's where self-entitled people who have fallen for the term "elite" created by marketers, think that the rules don't apply to them. While this does not entirely solve all OH issues, it certainly means that BG 1-4 are pretty well taken care of and even further down the line if things work well.
The BG 2-3 distinction is meaningless and a feel good tossed to EXP's flying in Y. If strutting past others takes the sting out of it, so be it. But, it serves no practical purpose.
#19
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I think most of us who care about this do NOT want them to simply throw miles our way. We want them to correct the problem. I have had the issue with bag storage above my seat when gate agents either call boarding for multiple groups together or when they don't enforce what was actually called. A lot of group 2 and group 3 people sit in MCE. It had been indicated AA is now reserving MCE bin space.... However, the announcement has also been that nobody will enforce this reserved bin space. AA has encouraged the use of overhead bin space, by having fees for checked baggage.
#20
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I used to ask myself the same question when I was non-elite CC holder and would always get group 5 and had no issue with bin space - seeing the folks in the first few groups aggressively hover around the gate I was like... yo you will definitely get a bin. However, now that I have elite status and typically get MCE seats, getting on past group 5 means you will have to put your bag several rows behind your seat, which is why the first few groups are so focused on getting on the plane quickly.
#21
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You didn't "earn" it, that's marketing speak. You paid for it.
#23
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That's true! I think the issue is that EXP benefits have tapered and the EQD requirement makes it even harder to attain so boarding with groups 3 and 4 adds to the frustration as opposed to a tangible disadvantage.
#24
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for those worrying about "earning" and if their suitcase is overhead a row or two different than your seat: I'm guessing it's hard to walk with butt cheeks so clenched
Good grief you're in the priority boarding group, you're gonna get your bag in, relax
Good grief you're in the priority boarding group, you're gonna get your bag in, relax
#25
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However, as an EXP sitting in coach, I should never have to place my bag aft of where I am sitting, assuming I am ready to board when my group is called.
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However, my goal is to have it above my seat, and that is more likely to happen if 4 boards later. I have had it happen at the same time and I did not get the bin above my seat.
#27
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There was another 'incident' this week where a few folks in group 4 tried to board early and were rebuffed by the GA. The confusion was that their boarding passes said Priority (I genuinely believe they misunderstood) and they thought that they probably shouldn't be boarding with the second half of the plane (elite heavy route).
#28
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What's the point of having group numbers if you aren't going to do them sequentially? I'll agree that the boarding areas are not generally conducive to efficient boarding procedure, but once the GA's bend to the wills of folks wanting to board before their group numbers, it will be a free-for-all under the guise of 'this is when I boarded last time.'
There was another 'incident' this week where a few folks in group 4 tried to board early and were rebuffed by the GA. The confusion was that their boarding passes said Priority (I genuinely believe they misunderstood) and they thought that they probably shouldn't be boarding with the second half of the plane (elite heavy route).
There was another 'incident' this week where a few folks in group 4 tried to board early and were rebuffed by the GA. The confusion was that their boarding passes said Priority (I genuinely believe they misunderstood) and they thought that they probably shouldn't be boarding with the second half of the plane (elite heavy route).
#29
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What's the point of having group numbers if you aren't going to do them sequentially? I'll agree that the boarding areas are not generally conducive to efficient boarding procedure, but once the GA's bend to the wills of folks wanting to board before their group numbers, it will be a free-for-all under the guise of 'this is when I boarded last time.'
There was another 'incident' this week where a few folks in group 4 tried to board early and were rebuffed by the GA. The confusion was that their boarding passes said Priority (I genuinely believe they misunderstood) and they thought that they probably shouldn't be boarding with the second half of the plane (elite heavy route).
There was another 'incident' this week where a few folks in group 4 tried to board early and were rebuffed by the GA. The confusion was that their boarding passes said Priority (I genuinely believe they misunderstood) and they thought that they probably shouldn't be boarding with the second half of the plane (elite heavy route).
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