Alleged sexual assault on AA redeye Jun 2017 - victim speaks, to sue AA
Mar 16, 2018, 12:19 pm
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Is it really so cost prohibitive to install a few cameras on every plane? I'm actually surprised airlines don't do this voluntarily given all the potential incidents that can and do occur on a regular basis. Having some visual evidence in cases like these would certainly be helpful.
Mar 16, 2018, 12:45 pm
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(And yes, it happened in the bathroom so there wouldn't be any video of the rape itself but presumably there would be of the guy following her in there--assuming such cameras were ever installed.)
Mar 16, 2018, 1:32 pm
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If the authorities were called to meet the victim in JFK, one would assume the assailant was also intercepted?
Mar 16, 2018, 3:52 pm
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...she was interviewed by the FBI after being transported to the hospital. But the man she alleges assaulted her wasn’t apprehended at the gate
Mar 16, 2018, 4:03 pm
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I’m not sure what more AW was supposed to do?
a) They mitigated by moving passengers apart in the air.
b) Authorities were notified and met the plane on arrival.
What more can they do? Seems like a pay me scheme. Complaint should be with the FBI, not AA.
a) They mitigated by moving passengers apart in the air.
b) Authorities were notified and met the plane on arrival.
What more can they do? Seems like a pay me scheme. Complaint should be with the FBI, not AA.
Mar 16, 2018, 7:42 pm
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Actually, that is a common claim. In a car crash, the lawyers will determine the bar where the drunk driver had his/her last drink precisely because of the laws which impose liability on bars (and social hosts) which serve alcohol to obviously drunk people.
Mar 16, 2018, 8:12 pm
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Hmm, if only anyone in this thread had bothered to address this question before you arrived, it could have saved you so much mystery.
Oh...my bad...several people have already! I suggest you scroll back to the discussions about liability around serving alcohol.
But also, since flight attendants apparently prevent people from having consensual sex on airplanes on a regular basis, I don't it's a stretch to think they could also prevent non-consensual sex.
Oh...my bad...several people have already! I suggest you scroll back to the discussions about liability around serving alcohol.
But also, since flight attendants apparently prevent people from having consensual sex on airplanes on a regular basis, I don't it's a stretch to think they could also prevent non-consensual sex.
Mar 16, 2018, 8:17 pm
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If she went to the Hospital as reported, the ED should/would have done a rape kit. If a rape kit/exam was done and was positive, they have the male passengers names on the flight. If there was DNA, then ID of the perp should be pretty straight forward investigative work. Not rocket science, this sort of forensic work goes on daily. Some of the story is missing.
Mar 16, 2018, 11:18 pm
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Call me in insensitive, or whatever name you want, I call complete and utter BS on this until someone proves otherwise. No way are authorities going to just let a guy walk, who just raped a woman on board the a/c, Honestly, there is pretty much no chance you could rape someone in the tiny bathroom on an AA plane. All that and nobody else hearing? No way! Even a willing participant would be hard to do nowadays with how tiny these bathrooms are.
I am not saying she is completely full of crap, I do believe it's likely the man COULD have made unwanted advances to her, but this screams money cry to me. She knows good ole public opinion will have a field day, especially with the #metoo right now, and she knows AA will give her boatloads of money out of court to make it go away.
Just another frivolous lawsuit it seems, <redacted>
I am not saying she is completely full of crap, I do believe it's likely the man COULD have made unwanted advances to her, but this screams money cry to me. She knows good ole public opinion will have a field day, especially with the #metoo right now, and she knows AA will give her boatloads of money out of court to make it go away.
Just another frivolous lawsuit it seems, <redacted>
Another report: https://www.yourtango.com/2018311679...airlines-fight
The story doesn't add up. So 'authorities' were called, but no one is being prosecuted? Or if he is, the rape victim doesn't know his name? And now AA is being sued for serving drinks?
The story doesn't add up. So 'authorities' were called, but no one is being prosecuted? Or if he is, the rape victim doesn't know his name? And now AA is being sued for serving drinks?
If a drunk guy pulled that off in an airplane lav, on an aircraft full of people, I will be amazed (and horrified).
I also see no evidence of any wrongdoing on the part of the airline after the incident was reported. They re-seated her and called the cops, who met the plane. If, for any reason, the police (seemingly the FBI) did not conduct a proper investigation at the airport, that's certainly not AA's fault.
Where AA might be liable, however, is if the "rapist" was served alcohol on the flight and became inebriated. I think we need to wait for more facts on this. These days, it would certainly be a bit unusual for a coach pax on a domestic flight to be served more than a couple of drinks (I guess he'd have to keep ringing his call bell). If that actually happened, and there's ANY truth to this woman's story, AA will probably have to write a check for more than $5000. More likely, if there really was a drunk predator, he was drunk before the flight and just got an additional round on the aircraft. That would be a more difficult (but nor impossible) fact pattern for the victim to recover on.
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Mar 17, 2018, 9:46 am
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For a company to call a reported claim of rape at a company facility a "nuisance claim" is so bad on so many levels. Who was it at AA that said the report of a passenger rape on an AA flight was a "nuisance"/"nuisance claim"?
Mar 17, 2018, 10:24 am
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Once the Space Force is up to speed, they'll be able to handle this stuff while the flight is at altitude.
Mar 17, 2018, 10:55 am
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuisance
Again, they are not referring to the complainant as being a nuisance. They're referring to the legal definition of the type of complaint being presented.
Mar 17, 2018, 11:28 am
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuisance
Again, they are not referring to the complainant as being a nuisance. They're referring to the legal definition of the type of complaint being presented.
Mar 17, 2018, 11:50 am
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuisance
Again, they are not referring to the complainant as being a nuisance. They're referring to the legal definition of the type of complaint being presented.