seawolf

JIMBOLIGUY

unless there was a substitution that flight, its been a 737 for at least the past 2 years and a A321 before that.

ryan182

This week UA killed a puppy, sent another dog to Japan rather than Kansas...AA be like:


you being raped by a drunk guy we kept serving is a ‘Nuisance claim’ buuuut sorry we "missed the mark" in responding to your complaint. And how is this still an ongoing investigation and why wasn't the guy detained upon landing (that's not AAs fault)?

What I did find most shocking, and frankly disturbing, is the stat in the article that of 2000 FAs 1 in 5 said they "had received a report of passenger-on-passenger sexual assault while working a flight"...what the AF is going on with people!

oliver2002

So the rape happened onboard an AA flight and was reported to the authorities. Nine months ago. How is an airline supposed to be responsible for a crime committed by a passenger?

MSPeconomist

There's surely some AA responsibility if FAs continued to serve drinks to a drunk passenger. It's even worse if the guy should have been denied baording because he was already drunk.

Moreover, there are at least questions regarding how AA handled the situation after the victim reported the rape to cabin crew.

oliver2002

The are millions of drunk men flying around, being drunk doesn't make you a rapist? Do rape victims sue the bar the rapist may have gone to before comitting the crime?
AAs handling of the situation on board after the rape was reported is not detailled at all in the news report referenced by the OP.

MSPeconomist

Of course all drunk men don't commit rape.

IANAL but
1. It violates FAA regulations (which have the force of law in the USA and on USA carriers) to serve alcohol to a passenger who appears to be drunk.
2. It's also a violation of the regulations to permit a passenger to board who appears to be drunk.
3. If a bar (or a home host) overserves someone and the person then is involved in a drunk driving accident, the bar or host is liable in the USA. Yet not every drunk (or even every drunk driver) causes an accident.

jordyn

Well, here's a clue to AA: when someone tells you they were raped on your plane, consider referring to the incident as something other than a "nuisance".

oliver2002

Another report: https://www.yourtango.com/2018311679...airlines-fight

The story doesn't add up. So 'authorities' were called, but no one is being prosecuted? Or if he is, the rape victim doesn't know his name? And now AA is being sued for serving drinks?

SpinOn2

Call me in insensitive, or whatever name you want, I call complete and utter BS on this until someone proves otherwise. No way are authorities going to just let a guy walk, who just raped a woman on board the a/c, Honestly, there is pretty much no chance you could rape someone in the tiny bathroom on an AA plane. All that and nobody else hearing? No way! Even a willing participant would be hard to do nowadays with how tiny these bathrooms are.

I am not saying she is completely full of crap, I do believe it's likely the man COULD have made unwanted advances to her, but this screams money cry to me. She knows good ole public opinion will have a field day, especially with the #metoo right now, and she knows AA will give her boatloads of money out of court to make it go away.

Just another frivolous lawsuit it seems, <redacted>.

Voldoo

Awful if this is true, but it's really difficult to take the claim too seriously when the writer can't even make it past the 2nd sentence without sensationalizing the incident:

"Several hours into the red-eye flight, she got up to use the bathroom.........."

This was a flight from PHX to JFK, a flight that takes 4.5 hours at most. Was she raped during the decent? I too am having some serious doubts as to the validity of this claim.

Voldoo

What doesn't add up to you? Some woman made an unsubstantiated claim against another passenger and likely felt that involving law enforcement would assist her in a civil suit against the airline. Unfortunately for her, the "lack of the progress" from the FBI means that they haven't located any evidence that backs her story. Now, 9 months later with the #MeToo movement still in full force, she has moved onto Plan B, which appears to involve using some hack reporter to publicly embarrass the airline and potentially pave the way for a settlement.

ajeleonard

They didn't call it a "nuisance", they called it a "nuisance claim", which is a specific legal concept.

oliver2002

I think me too has little to do with this, but the legal plan flanked with some 'media' reporting is probably in full deployment here.

econometrics

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