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Old Jan 12, 2018, 4:29 pm
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The 2019 compensation master thread is here.
Questions about, guide to, and listing of, compensation (2018, master thread)

Welcome to the "2018 Guide to, and listing of, compensation" thread!

NOTE: If compensation is not generated automatically (occasionally, it will), you will want to contact American Airlines Customer Relations. See Contacting American Airlines Customer Relations & Complaint, Issues (master thread).

In keeping with tradition, we'd like to ask members to report their compensation in the following format:

  • Date
  • AAdvantage Status
  • Fare class
  • What happened
  • Compensation
  • Comments
Please, do NOT post names of non-management employees, in accordance with FlyerTalk TOS (q#69) "Respect the privacy of non-management travel service employees by not referring to them by name."

JGR01 has created a spreadsheet parsing posts in this thread from 2003-2007, available for download here

AA's official policy regarding compensation for delays, cancellations, and diversions is as follows (thanks to tom911 for posting):
DELAYS, CANCELLATIONS AND DIVERSIONS

American Airlines will provide customers at the airport and onboard an affected aircraft with timely and frequent updates regarding known delays, cancellations and diversions and will strive to provide the best available information concerning the duration of delays and to the extent available, the flight's anticipated departure time.

We are not responsible for any special, incidental or consequential damages if we do not meet this commitment.

When cancellations and major delays are experienced, you will be rerouted on our next flight with available seats. If the delay or cancellation was caused by events within our control and we do not get you to your final destination on the expected arrival day, we will provide reasonable overnight accommodations, subject to availability.

In extreme circumstances, it is possible that a flight will cancel while on the ground in the city to which it was diverted. When this happens you will be rerouted on the next American flight with available seats, or in some circumstances on another airline or some other alternative means of transportation. If we are unable to reroute you, reasonable overnight accommodations will be provided by American, subject to availability.

American will provide amenities for delayed passengers, necessary to maintain the safety and/or welfare of certain passengers such as customers with disabilities, unaccompanied children, the elderly or others to whom such amenities will be furnished consistent with special needs and/or circumstances.
• The U. S. Department of Transportation's official policy regarding compensation for delays or cancellations is as follows (thanks to hillrider for posting):
Contrary to the belief of some, airlines are not required to compensate passengers for “damages” when flights are delayed or canceled. Compensation is required by law only when you are “bumped” from a flight that is oversold. Airlines almost always refuse to pay passengers for financial losses resulting from a delayed flight. If the purpose of your trip is to close a potentially lucrative business deal, to give a speech or lecture, to attend a family function, or to be present at any time-sensitive event, you might want to allow a little extra time and take an earlier flight. In other words, airline delays and cancellations are not unusual, and defensive planning is a good idea when time is your most important consideration.
Flights to/from/within Europe carry specific compensation rights, as outlined at: http://ec.europa.eu/transport/passen.../en/index.html

Also see (FT) EC261 / EC 261/2004 complaints, compensation and AA (master thread)

(The other compensation threads are archived and closed, but can easily be accessed for reading here:

2017 Questions about, guide to, and listing of, compensation (consolidated)

2016 Questions about, guide to, and listing of, compensation (consolidated)

2015 Questions about, guide to, listing of, compensation (consolidated - archived)

2014 Questions about, guide to, listing of, compensation (consolidated - archived)

2013 Questions about, guide to, and listing of compensation (archived)

Guide to, and listing of, compensation (2012 - archived)

Guide to, and listing of, compensation (2003 - 2011 archived)

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Old Jan 26, 2018, 3:02 pm
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Originally Posted by benlen
Honestly, yes. I feel like that was a serious safety threat and we should have been compensated for being on a plane with this issue. We also had a pretty rough landing so it wasn't exactly a moot point.
An interior panel is a serious safety threat? If it hit you, then sure, get mad. If it just fell - with all due respect, don't be a drama queen.

Did the oxygen masks drop? If not, it wasn't a hard landing.
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Old Jan 26, 2018, 3:03 pm
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What would be the best way to get my voucher reinstated and for customer relations to properly understand their mistake here? Right now, I seem to just be going around in endless circles with them. Thoughts?
Write to them asking for them to call you or send you a number to call them.

I had an issue where they royally screwed something up and after going in circles, just had a quick phone call. resolved the issue in 5 minutes.
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Old Jan 26, 2018, 3:06 pm
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Originally Posted by IADCAflyer
Is it me or is anyone else starting to tire of the word "compensation"? Didn't get me to my arrival airport within 30 minutes of scheduled arrival; demand compensation. Ticketed airline ceased operations; demand compensation from other airline; Two olives in salad instead of four; demand compensation.
This quote is from another post, but just to add to the list...
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Old Jan 26, 2018, 3:10 pm
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Equip all aircraft with panel obliterating ray guns.

Compensation. LOL! What a world!
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Old Jan 26, 2018, 3:52 pm
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FA: Unfortunately sir, "falling aircraft panels" is not an inconvenience that can be remedied with our new iSolve app. No miles for you!


Seriously though, stuff happens. Rough landings happen, maintenance issues happen. Be happy it was a ceiling panel and not an engine that you lost!
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Old Jan 26, 2018, 4:13 pm
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Originally Posted by benlen
Honestly, yes. I feel like that was a serious safety threat and we should have been compensated for being on a plane with this issue. We also had a pretty rough landing so it wasn't exactly a moot point.
Seriously? I'm speechless.
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Old Jan 26, 2018, 4:37 pm
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Old Jan 26, 2018, 9:33 pm
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Originally Posted by benlen
I feel like that was a serious safety threat and we should have been compensated for being on a plane with this issue.
And I feel like AA should give me a million bucks because I'm a swell guy, but you know what they say about always getting what you want...
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Old Jan 30, 2018, 2:36 pm
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AA139 LAX-HKG went mechanical/crew maxxed out. Rescheduled for the next day. Arrived in HKG 16 hours later. AA offered 20,000 AA miles. I find this unreasonable for the loss of an entire business working day in HKG and the loss of a seperately booked ticket costing $1000 onwards from HK exactly 16 hours later (which is usually a pretty safe layover). How do I push this? I already rejected their comp offer but they pushed back saying 20,000 miles is fair from their perspective, which is BS.
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Old Jan 31, 2018, 8:03 am
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AA139 LAX-HKG went mechanical/crew maxxed out. Rescheduled for the next day. Arrived in HKG 16 hours later. AA offered 20,000 AA miles. I find this unreasonable for the loss of an entire business working day in HKG and the loss of a seperately booked ticket costing $1000 onwards from HK exactly 16 hours later (which is usually a pretty safe layover). How do I push this? I already rejected their comp offer but they pushed back saying 20,000 miles is fair from their perspective, which is BS.
Did you also receive a night in a hotel? Any food vouchers?
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Old Jan 31, 2018, 9:02 am
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Originally Posted by benlen
Honestly, yes. I feel like that was a serious safety threat and we should have been compensated for being on a plane with this issue. We also had a pretty rough landing so it wasn't exactly a moot point.
Were you in the exit row, or did you just think everyone on the plane should be compensated for this? Seriously?
What does the "rough" landing have to do with the panel?
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Old Jan 31, 2018, 9:07 am
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AA139 LAX-HKG went mechanical/crew maxxed out. Rescheduled for the next day. Arrived in HKG 16 hours later. AA offered 20,000 AA miles. I find this unreasonable for the loss of an entire business working day in HKG and the loss of a seperately booked ticket costing $1000 onwards from HK exactly 16 hours later (which is usually a pretty safe layover). How do I push this? I already rejected their comp offer but they pushed back saying 20,000 miles is fair from their perspective, which is BS.
You can always sue in small claims court
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Old Jan 31, 2018, 7:07 pm
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Originally Posted by ShortDog
Did you also receive a night in a hotel? Any food vouchers?
Yes, received hotel and food vouchers, after 2 or 3 hour wait at 3AM.

Originally Posted by mvoight
You can always sue in small claims court
Unfortunately I don't think this is an option under US law.
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Old Feb 11, 2018, 9:35 pm
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12-hour delay due to MX and then crew scheduling (MIA-LAX). Paid F as EXP. Unsolicited email offering 11K miles. Any data points?
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Old Feb 12, 2018, 5:18 pm
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Feb 8, 2018 AA Flight 94 JFK -> MAD -> JFK
Scheduled Dept Time : 6:55PM
Scheduled Arr Time : 8:10AM(+1)
Flight takes off, goes MX 1 hour into flight, Captain said "Navigational Systems not working" have to return to JFK
Lands safely with Fire/Ambulances on standby
New flight 94 ends up leaving 11:40PM arriving MAD 11:52AM(+1)

Was proactively offered 4K miles. (non EXP companion on same PNR was given same amount)
In the past, I've received 5K-10k+ for broken overhead lights or IFE
Was I shortchanged here?
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