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HELP DESK: Lounge Access, Access Rules. Will I Have Lounge Access? (2018)
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The Lounge Access Help Desk

To assist members with questions about Lounge Access Rules that they have not been able to answer on their own using the above resources, the AA Moderator team has decided to institute this thread, the third in a series of "Help Desk" threads. N.B.: If you have questions about physical access to a specific lounge (e.g., airside vs. landside, different terminal, etc.), please search for and post to the appropriate specific thread for that lounge.

New threads on this topic will be merged into this one and bumped by the moderators as necessary. As such, we do not expect that this thread will develop into a searchable database, but that it will nonetheless provide a valuable resource to members. As well, we may shed / pare down posts from time to time to a trailing thread or similar device.

Our goal is to provide a place where members can feel welcome to post such questions and expect helpful, accurate responses. In this way, we hope to accommodate the needs and desires of both new and veteran members - those who aren't sure they are interpreting the available resources correctly can ask for help without fear of snarky-appearing responses; those who do not wish to participate in such threads are invited and, indeed, encouraged, to ignore this thread.

Please be forewarned: This thread will be subject to heavy moderation. Posts that are incorrect will be subject to deletion without notice - DO NOT POST answers unless you are 100% sure your answer is complete and correct. Posts that are unhelpful or off-topic will also be subject to deletion without notice - DO NOT POST unless you can be friendly, helpful, concise, and salient.

Finally, a few guidelines for members posting queries to this thread:
  • Please DO make an effort to review the listed resources before posting here.
    • Please DO try to give as much information as possible, including your entire itinerary, with carrier for each segment and codeshares and stopovers clearly designated, your class of service and fare class purchased, whether or not you have Admirals Club or Qantas Club membership, a Citi AAdvantage Executive card (which includes full Admirals Club membership), and the number of guests and your family relationship with them, if any.
      • Please DO understand it could take some time for answers (especially on holidays and weekends.)
        • Please DO thank helpful members volunteering to reply to your questions.

Note: Members interested in arranging AA lounge meet-ups or offer guesting in should use this thread: Admirals Club / Flagship Lounge Meet Up & Guest Offer (master thread)

Also see the future changes in lounges and access: Admirals Club and Flagship Lounge Changes, Renovations & Additions

Sincerely,
The American Airlines AAdvantage forum Moderator Team
(Help Desk established by dstan)
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Help Desk: Lounge Access Rules / Will I Have Lounge Access?

Lounge Access can be obtained in a number of ways during travel on AA and its oneworld partner airlines. These include purchasing an Admirals Club one day pass, or via Citi AAdvantage Executive MasterCard (including, as of Dec 2015, authorized card users), reciprocity agreements with other airlines, traveling on certain transcon flights in F or J, or traveling internationally with Platinum (oneworld Sapphire) or Executive Platinum (oneworld Emerald) status or in F or J classes of service - except if flying solely within North America inc,Using destinations other than MEX or the Caribbean. The last is often the greatest source of confusion, despite lounge access rules being described clearly on aa.com. Threads about these are linked to in the American Airlines LOUNGE DASHBOARD thread.

Admirals Club members paid or Executive cardholder members) are entitled guests as follows:

Up to two guests or household members (spouse, domestic partner and/or children under the age of 18) may accompany the member.
* Note that AA no longer offers a 30-day membership as of July 25 2016.

For AA status-based access (PLT, PlatPro or EXP),* passengers must: (1) be traveling on an international itinerary (Europe, Asia, Central and South America, and Mexico City, excluding the Caribbean and other destinations in North America (other than on certain three class transcontinental flights) including other destinations in Mexico, and (2) have an onward flight on a oneworld airline marketed and operated flight on the same day. PLT and PPRO members are eligible for access to all oneworld Business Class lounges, now including Flagship Lounges, including Admirals Clubs; EXP members are also eligible for access to all oneworld First Class lounges, including Flagship Lounges.

Lounges operated by third parties or premium lunges operating outside of oneworld rules (e.g. BA Concorde Room, Qatar Al Safwa or Al Mourjan lounges) may be excluded, and all may may refuse admittance if they claim they are crowded. There are other exceptions.

*Non-AA oneworld Sapphire and Emerald elites are not subject to rule #1 above.

Emerald / EP on CX JFK-YVR are not subject to AA limitations and are issued Flagship Lounge invitations for use at JFK.

Another confusing rule relates to transcontinental access. From member FriendlySkies:

Traveling on a Non-Stop Transcontinental* Flight? http://www.aa.com/i18n/utility/trans-con-access.jsp

More changes:

If you are traveling in the First or Business class cabin (on flights sold as three classes) in one of the following non-stop markets, we welcome you to visit the lounge as indicated below.


The following exceptions apply:

First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean; customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access. one world lounge access page - link
On February 17 2016, AA announced an addition to the above. As stated on their Reimagining our lounges page, in the Flagship Lounges section, "Starting in 2017, lounge access will be extended to customers booked in Business and First Class on A321T, Trans-Atlantic, Trans-Pacific and deep South American flights."
Important Note: Though this announcement excluded Northern South America and Central America, those travelling to or from those destinations in J/F or whom hold OWE or OWS, including AA elites, do indeed have access to the Flagship Lounge. See the link below for Flagship Lounge access rules for details.

In the Flagship Dining subsection, they state:

Beginning in early 2017, the Flagship Dining experience will be available in select cities with 3-class service:

● Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW)

● New York (JFK)

● Miami (MIA)

● Los Angeles (LAX)

First Class customers on American’s 3-class international and transcontinental flights will have exclusive access to Flagship Dining in 2017
All Admirals Club visitors receive free Wi-Fi access at Admirals Clubs (password is available at front desk and throughout the Club on signs), some non-alcoholic and "well" (lower price tier) alcoholic beverages and counter snacks (fruit, some kind of snack mix, cheese cubes, hot cereal mornings and soup evenings are the most common - recent additions have been made); free computer terminals are available for all passengers, and many Clubs have Business Centers and tethered Samsung Galaxy tablets in seating areas. Passengers accessing Admirals Clubs based on status or class of service on international travel are entitled to free drinks coupons usable for higher-tier non-alcoholic and alcoholic beverages and bottles of water.

Flagship Lounges (JFK, LAX, LHR and ORD) offer extended beverages and upscale snack services as well. See below for link.

NOTE: Some Lounges and Clubs are undergoing refurbishment.

Citi Prestige MasterCard holder Admirals Club access ended July 23, 2017.

American Express Platinum cardholder Admirals Club access ended 21 March 2014.

NOTE: It has been verified more airports are allowing multiple terminal access on one's day of departure. LAX has been one since mid-2014.

Admirals Club access is granted the day of flight for statusholders flyingone world and those flying F or J, or the following day at the first port of arrival if flying overnight and arriving by 0600.

Airports requiring Lounge users have a same day departure boarding pass include BOG, CCS, CDG, GIG, GRU, LHR, MEX, NRT, SCL, YYZ.

N.B. Qantas Lounges and Clubs require Smart Casual (sic) dress as of May 2015; those not meeting the standard may be turned away. They also require AAdvantage members be traveling on a departing AA marketed flight.

Please see the following resources for full details on Lounge Access Rules: (and see below)

. . . ● AA.com: Lounge Access Rules

. . . ● AA.com: American Airlines Flagship Lounge Access Rules

Beginning later in 2017: https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ge-updates.jsp opens Flagship access to many more pax.

. . . ● AA.com: Reimaging our lounges

. . . ● AA.com: Admirals Club Membership Guide in a downloadable PDF format.

. . . ● oneworld.com: Lounge Access Rules and Search Tool

. . . ● Wiki: Lounges

. . . ● FT: American Airlines LOUNGE DASHBOARD


For various threads on membership, access by status, transcon service, class of service, Flagship lounge access, lounges directory with links to specific lounge threads, Club member access to partner lounges, recipripocity agreements, etc.

. . . ● Last year's thread:https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...es-2017-a.html

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Old Apr 28, 18, 1:43 am
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Lounge Access

No doubt this has been asked and answered before.

A friend is flying LAX-ORD-AMM (Amman, Jordan) in J. On an award ticket, which I'm sure doesn't matter.

She can use the Admiral's Club in ORD, but can't guest someone in, right? (She's traveling with someone who's flying Y.)
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Old Apr 28, 18, 1:53 am
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Correct on both counts!

https://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access
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Old Apr 28, 18, 6:52 am
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Originally Posted by redtop43 View Post
No doubt this has been asked and answered before.

A friend is flying LAX-ORD-AMM (Amman, Jordan) in J. On an award ticket, which I'm sure doesn't matter.

She can use the Admiral's Club in ORD, but can't guest someone in, right? (She's traveling with someone who's flying Y.)
If she is flying in J, she'll have access to the AA Flagship Lounge and OW Business Lounge in LAX, then the Flagship Lounge again in ORD, all better than a domestic Admiral's Club.
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Old Apr 29, 18, 7:29 pm
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LAX Lounges

This isn't a question of eligibility but more of geography and desirability,

I have Priority Pass, which in LAX gets me into Alaska, Virgin, and KAL.

I'm starting to have a number of flights where I connect in LAX, arriving 6:30PM and leaving 9PM. The flight arrives in some random part of the airport and pax are bused to Terminal 4. Last trip I went to Alaska, which was a frightfully long walk and an unexceptional lounge with non-working wifi. I then had to walk back to Terminal 4 to take the bus to the commuter terminal.

The KAL lounge is in the Tom Bradley international terminal, and Virgin is in Terminal 2. KAL closes at 8PM.

Can anyone give me an idea how long a walk these are, and whether they're worth the walk? It's a long enough connection time to make it worth not sitting in the gate area.
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Old Apr 29, 18, 9:15 pm
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The T2 Virgin lounge is not available to Priority Pass members after 12:30pm. Aside from that, to stay airside you would need to catch a bus from the far north end of TBIT than head back back on a bus again for your flight.

Here's a review of the KAL lounge: https://onemileatatime.boardingarea....geles-airport/

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Old Apr 29, 18, 9:54 pm
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The T2 Virgin lounge is not available to Priority Pass members after 12:30pm. Aside from that, to stay airside you would need to catch a bus from the far north end of TBIT than head back back on a bus again for your flight.

Here's a review of the KAL lounge: https://onemileatatime.boardingarea....geles-airport/
I've no idea what the KAL lounge is like in the evening hours. Early in the day, the environment can be peaceful. Not many people, and you can schlepp out to the "outdoor" deck and watch the masses below.

Food offerings are finger sandwiches, ramen, veggie stix, and pour your own liquor.

Definitely better than hanging at the gate.
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Old Apr 30, 18, 5:52 am
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Originally Posted by teemuflyer View Post
If she is flying in J, she'll have access to the AA Flagship Lounge and OW Business Lounge in LAX, then the Flagship Lounge again in ORD, all better than a domestic Admiral's Club.
She'll also have access to the AA Flagship Lounge in LAX, which is a very nice lounge, and closer to the AA gates.
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Old Apr 30, 18, 6:10 am
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She'll also have access to the AA Flagship Lounge in LAX, which is a very nice lounge, and closer to the AA gates.
You can literally quote me on that
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Old Apr 30, 18, 1:06 pm
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Platinum flying domestic only but also have Iberia Oro (OW sapphire). Only inquiring about standard domestic lounges.
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Old Apr 30, 18, 1:10 pm
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Originally Posted by mrredskin View Post
Platinum flying domestic only but also have Iberia Oro (OW sapphire). Only inquiring about standard domestic lounges.
No hay problema; tenéis acceso. No problem; you’ll have access. (Admirals Clubs)
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No hay problema; tenéis acceso. No problem; you’ll have access. (Admirals Clubs)
haha. thank you.
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Old May 3, 18, 7:58 pm
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I'm seriously confused by some of the lounge changes. Perhaps one of you frequent fliers/experts on AA can chime in?

I have a ticket in F flying BZE-MIA-LAX and then connecting onto a late night LAX-PDX flight on AS. Will I have access to the Flagship Lounge in either MIA or LAX, or even the "regular" AC's? The MIA-LAX is on the 772 (2 class configuration) so it certainly looks like Flagship First Dining is out of the question.

AA's website no longer lists LAX-MIA as a "qualifying" transcon - but Belize certainly is in Central America so seems like it would qualify? Their website states:

Qualifying international flights

Flights between the U.S. and:

  • Asia
  • Australia
  • Central America
  • Europe
  • Mexico City (MEX)
  • New Zealand
  • South America
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Old May 3, 18, 8:29 pm
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Originally Posted by pdxparse View Post
I'm seriously confused by some of the lounge changes. Perhaps one of you frequent fliers/experts on AA can chime in?

I have a ticket in F flying BZE-MIA-LAX and then connecting onto a late night LAX-PDX flight on AS. Will I have access to the Flagship Lounge in either MIA or LAX, or even the "regular" AC's? The MIA-LAX is on the 772 (2 class configuration) so it certainly looks like Flagship First Dining is out of the question.
You'll have access to the Flagship Lounge in MIA (not Flagship First Dining), but won't have access at LAX, because you are not continuing your itinerary on a OW flight.
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Old May 3, 18, 8:54 pm
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Originally Posted by DMPHL View Post
You'll have access to the Flagship Lounge in MIA (not Flagship First Dining), but won't have access at LAX, because you are not continuing your itinerary on a OW flight.
In my experience (and as I think others have reported), AA lounge access is de facto granted throughout a OW international F/J (or EXP/PPR/PLT) itinerary, including upon arrival if the lounge is physically accessible. Indeed, the typical scenario for this is arriving at the USA final destination on an AA domestic connection.
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Old May 3, 18, 9:21 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyingEgghead View Post
In my experience (and as I think others have reported), AA lounge access is de facto granted throughout a OW international F/J (or EXP/PPR/PLT) itinerary, including upon arrival if the lounge is physically accessible. Indeed, the typical scenario for this is arriving at the USA final destination on an AA domestic connection.
Thank you - I certainly hope so as that would make my LAX layover much more pleasant. I have Priority Pass, but don't remember LAX having great options.
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