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Old Jan 8, 18, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by kljcorp View Post
My usual route with AA is from PHX to ORD and now for the past two weeks or so when I book my ticket (usually the cheapest available fare) I get a screen pop up that says Basic Economy, which is (no overhead carry-on, no assigned seating, etc.). I can choose Main Cabin for what's often an 800% surcharge to get what I used to get for the Basic Economy fare. So now a $52 fare that used to include an overhead now costs $450.

I've avoided going for status because the benefits weren't worth it to me. I don't normally check bags and don't care when I board. I DO however, care about having access to an overhead and knowing I have an assigned seat! So NOW is it worth it for me to obtain status?

It's all so complicated. I can get a Citi Card that will give me some advantages like earning 1 mile for every $1 spent (and 2 miles for every $1 spent fares), but does this give me access to overhead? Does this make any fare available for seat assignment? Should I do a Gold Challenge? Sign up for the credit card? Or both?

Btw- I'm such a noob that I don't even understand what 90% of the acronyms you guys use stand for. I'm also not quite sure how or why I need to know what the booking class code is (A,T,D,I,R,Y,W,B, etc.). This is incredibly confusing to someone who just uses American to get from PHX to ORD and back about once a month or so. I don't have a company paying for my travel, so I'd like to be as economical as possible. But it seems to me that AA just became like Spirit where they're going to start charging me for every little extra thing. Until now, I've tried to remain loyal to AA and am trying to decide it that still makes sense. But if they're going to be just like Spirit to me, I may as well just book the cheapest fare available.

I'd appreciate any advice on what to do. Thanks.
I did dummy booking on AA on PHX and ORD and can't even find a $52 Basic Economy deal.

In terms of overhead bin access: you could consider 1)checking you bag for $25 for the first one (plus $25 service charge, $50 in total for 1st bag), given the price difference between Basic Economy and Main Cabin is way higher than this. 2)The overhead bin restriction does not apply for status and credit card holders. However, status costs way more, and credit cards come with annual fees. The lowest annual fees product is $95, but sometimes the financial institutions (Citi or Barclay) could waive it for you.

Seat assignment, unfortunately, is not granted for status or credit card holders. At the end of the day, this is part of the ultra-low price of basic economy.

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Old Jan 8, 18, 2:31 pm
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Originally Posted by andersonCooper View Post
I did dummy booking on AA on PHX and ORD and can't even find a $52 Basic Economy deal.

In terms of overhead bin access: you could consider 1)checking you bag for $25 for the first one (plus $25 service charge, $50 in total for 1st bag), given the price difference between Basic Economy and Main Cabin is way higher than this. 2)The overhead bin restriction does not apply for status and credit card holders. However, status costs way more, and credit cards come with annual fees. The lowest annual fees product is $95, but sometimes the financial institutions (Citi or Barclay) could waive it for you.

Seat assignment, unfortunately, is not granted for status or credit card holders. At the end of the day, this is part of the ultra-low price of basic economy.
I really appreciate your response. I should have mentioned I only purchase one-way fares. As I type this, there is a $52 fare PHX-ORD at 6:20am for Jan 9th. I use Google Flights to get a general idea of pricing, then book thru AA.

The $25 checked bag fee is not as important to me as the convenience of simply getting off the plane and being on my way. Not to sound snobbish or lazy, but I don't want to walk over to baggage claim and wait for my "carry-on" sized luggage to appear on a revolving belt, not to mention the time it takes to check this bag before the flight, along with the added the risk that they'll lose it, which would totally destroy a trip.

In other words, no carry-on/no seat assignment is a deal breaker for me and I'd just assume fly Spirit or Frontier at that point (airlines that up until now, I've avoided like the plague). I've never paid an annual fee for a credit card except to American Express and I suppose I don't mind doing it here. But I'd have to do some math. My current credit cards earn me anywhere from 2%-5% cashback on purchases and this card will earn me 1 award mile for each EQD for any dollar spent and 2 miles for fare purchases. So far, it's looking like it might be worth doing both the credit card and the Gold challenge if I'm going to continue flying AA for this route unless I'm missing something.

Again, thanks for the response.

I should also note that while my travel days are "flexible" they are not so flexible that I can wait weeks. If I find out Sunday that I have to travel from PHX to ORD that week then I may have some flexibility as to the exact date and time, but I will have to travel that week. So it seems like I'm going to be spending +$3k a year sticking with AA no matter what I do. May as well get immediate status thru the challenge and get the card, right?

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Old Jan 8, 18, 3:17 pm
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Originally Posted by kljcorp View Post
I really appreciate your response. I should have mentioned I only purchase one-way fares. As I type this, there is a $52 fare PHX-ORD at 6:20am for Jan 9th. I use Google Flights to get a general idea of pricing, then book thru AA.

The $25 checked bag fee is not as important to me as the convenience of simply getting off the plane and being on my way. Not to sound snobbish or lazy, but I don't want to walk over to baggage claim and wait for my "carry-on" sized luggage to appear on a revolving belt, not to mention the time it takes to check this bag before the flight, along with the added the risk that they'll lose it, which would totally destroy a trip.

In other words, no carry-on/no seat assignment is a deal breaker for me and I'd just assume fly Spirit or Frontier at that point (airlines that up until now, I've avoided like the plague). I've never paid an annual fee for a credit card except to American Express and I suppose I don't mind doing it here. But I'd have to do some math. My current credit cards earn me anywhere from 2%-5% cashback on purchases and this card will earn me 1 award mile for each EQD for any dollar spent and 2 miles for fare purchases. So far, it's looking like it might be worth doing both the credit card and the Gold challenge if I'm going to continue flying AA for this route unless I'm missing something.

Again, thanks for the response.

I should also note that while my travel days are "flexible" they are not so flexible that I can wait weeks. If I find out Sunday that I have to travel from PHX to ORD that week then I may have some flexibility as to the exact date and time, but I will have to travel that week. So it seems like I'm going to be spending +$3k a year sticking with AA no matter what I do. May as well get immediate status thru the challenge and get the card, right?
You're welcome.

The scope of AA miles valuation goes beyond this topic. My recent redemption gave me about 6 cents per mile, which is about 6% cash back, but most people (including myself) do not agree with this valuation. In my own experience and this is only one data point, Barclay is more friendly in terms of waiving co-branded credit card annual fees compared to Citi, but has higher requirement in terms of credit history/score.

In terms of challenge, keep in mind that even though you have status immediately, it usually lasts for a limited period of time, unless you complete the challenge. For Gold, $1,000 elite-qualifying-dollar/8 segments/7,000 miles in 90 days might be hard for less frequent travelers. You might be subject to status challenge fees, and could not repeat the challenge within a certain number of years (usually 5 years).

Please refer to the master thread for more details: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...ge-2017-a.html.
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Old Jan 8, 18, 9:31 pm
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Originally Posted by kljcorp View Post
I really appreciate your response. I should have mentioned I only purchase one-way fares. As I type this, there is a $52 fare PHX-ORD at 6:20am for Jan 9th. I use Google Flights to get a general idea of pricing, then book thru AA.

The $25 checked bag fee is not as important to me as the convenience of simply getting off the plane and being on my way. Not to sound snobbish or lazy, but I don't want to walk over to baggage claim and wait for my "carry-on" sized luggage to appear on a revolving belt, not to mention the time it takes to check this bag before the flight, along with the added the risk that they'll lose it, which would totally destroy a trip.

In other words, no carry-on/no seat assignment is a deal breaker for me and I'd just assume fly Spirit or Frontier at that point (airlines that up until now, I've avoided like the plague). I've never paid an annual fee for a credit card except to American Express and I suppose I don't mind doing it here. But I'd have to do some math. My current credit cards earn me anywhere from 2%-5% cashback on purchases and this card will earn me 1 award mile for each EQD for any dollar spent and 2 miles for fare purchases. So far, it's looking like it might be worth doing both the credit card and the Gold challenge if I'm going to continue flying AA for this route unless I'm missing something.

Again, thanks for the response.

I should also note that while my travel days are "flexible" they are not so flexible that I can wait weeks. If I find out Sunday that I have to travel from PHX to ORD that week then I may have some flexibility as to the exact date and time, but I will have to travel that week. So it seems like I'm going to be spending +$3k a year sticking with AA no matter what I do. May as well get immediate status thru the challenge and get the card, right?
An (eligible) AA credit card will allow you access to the overhead bins and preferred boarding (I think Group 5?).
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ic-economy.jsp

Cards like the Citi Platinum Select waive the annual fee for the first year, I believe. (It definitely was the case when I got the card, and I think they still do it.)

I am not sure Gold status will give you additional benefits that would make the cost worth it.
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Old Jan 9, 18, 11:52 am
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We will be flying on AA with a leisurely connecting time of almost three hours at DFW arriving there around 7:30 am.

Any ideas concerning the best place to have breakfast anywhere in the DFW terminal complex?

Mods, please feel free to move this if I am in the wrong place for this question.
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Old Jan 9, 18, 4:59 pm
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Old Jan 9, 18, 5:14 pm
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I have lost my AA status but have quite a few 500mile upgrades. I travel frequently with someone who is AA gold and one time since we were on the same PNR, the gate agent was able to use them. Now I'm not sure if this was the exception or the norm but my question is as follows:

Can a non status AA flyer (British airways silver if that matters) fly with an AA gold on the same PNR and use their 500mile upgrades on the party? Would this work on flights to Mexico?
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Old Jan 10, 18, 2:09 am
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PVG Lounge

Here I am in the CX hybrid lounge at T2 PVG. I went to the Air China lounge and as I was leaving I notice it is Business one side and 1st class the other. I was sent to Business even though I am OW Emerald with QF. I couldnt argue the point as it is not a One World Lounge. Is this usual for AA ?
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Old Jan 10, 18, 7:29 am
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2 questions:
1. How do I subscribe to this forum?
2. I am just starting to collect miles with a trip to London. I am planning to do some significant traveling and am very serious about wanting to get status. My husband does not want to do it the credit card way. What suggests do you have for me? So glad I found this forum.
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Old Jan 10, 18, 8:51 am
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Originally Posted by hinsopa View Post
2 questions:
1. How do I subscribe to this forum?

2. I am just starting to collect miles with a trip to London. I am planning to do some significant traveling and am very serious about wanting to get status. My husband does not want to do it the credit card way. What suggests do you have for me? So glad I found this forum.
1) See the illustration below. From the menu on Thread Tools, sleet subscribe.

2) There’s no way to attain status with a credit card on AA.

See:

GUIDE: Help Understanding Status, Points / Miles & Segments: EQM vs EQP (merged thd.)

Short cut to status: HELP DESK & FAQ: Gold and Platinum Status Challenge as of 2017
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Old Jan 10, 18, 8:51 am
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Upgrading an AAward

Hello -

If I book an economy award from NA to Europe on AA metal for 30k each way, and 4 months from now, saver level Biz class availability opens up (lol, when pigs fly maybe), can I call to upgrade my Y to J and just pay the incremental 27.5k miles, or do I need to pay $150 to cancel the award and then rebook it as a new one?

If I'm Plat Pro, is the $150 for cancelling an award waived?
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Old Jan 10, 18, 9:34 am
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Originally Posted by gilcresr View Post
Hello -

If I book an economy award from NA to Europe on AA metal for 30k each way, and 4 months from now, saver level Biz class availability opens up (lol, when pigs fly maybe), can I call to upgrade my Y to J and just pay the incremental 27.5k miles, or do I need to pay $150 to cancel the award and then rebook it as a new one?

If I'm Plat Pro, is the $150 for cancelling an award waived?
Only Executive Platinum members have award Miles redeposit waived.

But, the good news is that if you “upgrade” your award to a higher class of service, AA only requires the difference of the required miles and will waive thevredeposit fees to issue you a new award. Many members report this is true, as SAAver Awards may open up on flights that are often on less high demand days or times. And you can change the flight (as long as origin and destination remain the same, generally, if you find that Business SAAver award on a different flight.
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Old Jan 10, 18, 9:40 am
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Question about rebooking: my plans changed and I am halfway through a round-trip flight (AA ticket number and flight numbers, but BA operated), from US to India and back. I know I will have to pay the penalty ($500 for this business class fare), but I am not sure when i want to return. I would like to pay the penalty only once. Can I cancel the ticket (perhaps online) and then call to rebook the return, probably paying $500 plus possibly some fare difference.

Or if I cancel without rebooking the return, would the recalculate it as one-way fare, and leave me only a bit of residual value.

I would much prefer the first outcome, of course!
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Old Jan 10, 18, 10:02 am
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Originally Posted by Shawn02139 View Post
Question about rebooking: my plans changed and I am halfway through a round-trip flight (AA ticket number and flight numbers, but BA operated), from US to India and back. I know I will have to pay the penalty ($500 for this business class fare), but I am not sure when i want to return. I would like to pay the penalty only once. Can I cancel the ticket (perhaps online) and then call to rebook the return, probably paying $500 plus possibly some fare difference.

Or if I cancel without rebooking the return, would the recalculate it as one-way fare, and leave me only a bit of residual value.

I would much prefer the first outcome, of course!
Yes, the first scenario is what will happen. Pull up your reservation at aa.com and cancel it there. AA will email you a handy cancellation email with the PNR and ticket number. When you're ready to rebook, call AA and give them the ticket number, they will asses the change fee and fare difference based on your new flights.
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Old Jan 10, 18, 2:59 pm
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