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Old Oct 12, 2018, 12:37 pm
  #1666  
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
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Originally Posted by FREEKFLYR
So I get the eSummary email from AAdvantage and I see that there is an anomaly. Any body get something similar.

This is from my eSummary email. Notice the check mark next to EQS. Am I reading it right? Thanks!
Does this mean I have qualified for EXP or is it a coding SNAFU?? Thanks!
AA is notorious for having IT glitches in regards to our accounts. There are all sorts of things that pop up, disappear, and reappear in a different form. Calling it an "anomaly" is giving them too much credit as things like this are consistently happening. It'll be corrected.
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Old Oct 12, 2018, 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Margo39
Hi everyone,
I'm pretty clueless about status programs and "accidentally" achieved Platinum on AA a few years ago because of a job I had. I learned the value of that when I had a flight in Italy canceled and received amazing service. I'm now down to Gold status (and have been for three years) and I'm ok with it, but I'm about to lose it. My husband and I are now retired and we travel only for leisure. We've got a few int'l trips planned for 2019 (Caribbean, UK, Tel Aviv) so I'd like to keep Gold if possible for the convenience it offers. I know it's not that great for those of you who have higher status, but for us, it's perfect. Really don't want to lose it.

Do you have any suggestions for keeping it? I called AA and asked to be put on a challenge and was told that I'd have to wait until I lose status to do it. The rep suggested I book a few first class tickets. That would cost about $2k minimum from what I can see - and if that's the case, isn't it better to wait, lose the status and be put on a challenge? Are there any cheap runs I can do first class that can get me where I need to be? I'm about halfway on EQM (11,830) and EQD (1486) with only 8 segments.

Thank you in advance for your expertise - I am so excited to have found this forum and wish I'd found it while I was flying for business!
Margo
The only real way to get more EQD than you actually spend is taking advantage of partner bookings, a trip on BA or CX in premium economy might do the trick. Partner bookings post EQDs as a percentage of miles flown, so sometimes you can get good deals to earn more EQDs than you paid. If you stick to flying american domestically there isn't much you can do to beat the EQD limit, so it would cost you about $1500 anyway.
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Old Oct 12, 2018, 1:21 pm
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Thank you for your help. I am willing to fly internationally if need be - just not sure what to book to keep the status and I'm hoping to spend less than $1k to do it. Seems like waiting and buying the status or getting put on a challenge would be better. : (

Thanks again.
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Old Oct 13, 2018, 12:49 am
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Originally Posted by Margo39
Thank you for your help. I am willing to fly internationally if need be - just not sure what to book to keep the status and I'm hoping to spend less than $1k to do it. Seems like waiting and buying the status or getting put on a challenge would be better. : (

Thanks again.
If you can make those “mileage run” flights into an enjoyable getaway somewhere and get the status, I would do that. However, if you are just doing the flying for the miles/EQD, I would save your money and hold off on that for the following reasons:

A) You can easily get the status again next year through flying, possibly with a challenge. You might even be able go get a higher status than gold.
B) Gold benefits aren’t particularly valuable. You mention flying to the Caribbean. It makes no sese to take expensive mileage runs for status in that case. Why? Because you can just use that money next calendar year to fly First Class on your next vacation and therby have all of the benefits anyway. And you could be accruing miles toward a challenge for Platinum status at that time.
C) AA will likely offer you a buy back option for Gold, for less than it would cost you to retain it by flying.
D) What specifically do you value about gold status? Most of those benefits are duplicated by the Citi AAdvantage Executive credit card - the one that includes Admirals Club membership. The annual fee of that credit card is effectively quite low if you use the credits and makes sense if you avail of AC access. You may just need that credit card account open in order to get the benefits you want.


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Old Oct 13, 2018, 2:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Margo39
Thank you for your help. I am willing to fly internationally if need be - just not sure what to book to keep the status and I'm hoping to spend less than $1k to do it. Seems like waiting and buying the status or getting put on a challenge would be better. : (

Thanks again.
Originally Posted by MikeFromTokyo


If you can make those “mileage run” flights into an enjoyable getaway somewhere and get the status, I would do that. However, if you are just doing the flying for the miles/EQD, I would save your money and hold off on that for the following reasons:

A) You can easily get the status again next year through flying, possibly with a challenge. You might even be able go get a higher status than gold.
B) Gold benefits aren’t particularly valuable. You mention flying to the Caribbean. It makes no sese to take expensive mileage runs for status in that case. Why? Because you can just use that money next calendar year to fly First Class on your next vacation and therby have all of the benefits anyway. And you could be accruing miles toward a challenge for Platinum status at that time.
C) AA will likely offer you a buy back option for Gold, for less than it would cost you to retain it by flying.
D) What specifically do you value about gold status? Most of those benefits are duplicated by the Citi AAdvantage Executive credit card - the one that includes Admirals Club membership. The annual fee of that credit card is effectively quite low if you use the credits and makes sense if you avail of AC access. You may just need that credit card account open in order to get the benefits you want.
Since Gold status doesn't get you Admiral's Club status, a more equivalent card to that would be the much cheaper Citi Platinum AA card. But, yes, depending on which Platinum benefits (AC status?) are most important to Margo39, getting the Executive card could make more sense than a Plat Challenge.

Margo39, are you saying you are considering taking extra flights this year to earn Gold for next year? Or Platinum? If so, there is a forum which helps posters find the best way of achieving that. Then you'll have a sense of the cost and hassle required, and decide whether it's worth it, considering the benefits and alternatives as MikeFromTokyo laid out.
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Old Oct 13, 2018, 6:57 pm
  #1671  
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Originally Posted by MikeFromTokyo
B) Gold benefits aren’t particularly valuable. You mention flying to the Caribbean.
My Gold status lets me: book close-in awards without paying the $75 close-in fee; select MCE seats free of charge at T-24 (if any are still available); and get free, same-day standby.

In addition, for travel between the Mainland and the Caribbean zone, Gold status gets you a free checked bag in Coach; the credit card does not.
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Old Oct 13, 2018, 7:09 pm
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Ticketing AA/JL combination

How can I buy tickets like AA111 and JL222 not AA111 and AA7222.

ex.)
AA111/JL5111 AA metal
JL222/AA7222 JL metal

ITA matrix shows any combination of these tickets with different prices and Tampermonkey script enables me to ticket it.
But I want to buy it in the normal way as I usually do on aa.com or jal.co.jp without tricks.

Is it possible?

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Old Oct 14, 2018, 1:52 am
  #1673  
 
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Originally Posted by guv1976
My Gold status lets me: book close-in awards without paying the $75 close-in fee; select MCE seats free of charge at T-24 (if any are still available); and get free, same-day standby.

In addition, for travel between the Mainland and the Caribbean zone, Gold status gets you a free checked bag in Coach; the credit card does not.
And would you value that at over $1,000 per year?

The bag benefit also comes with credit cards.

In the poster’s situation to which I was referring, it would be better to either buy back the status, or do a challenge next year. Spending over $1,000 on a mileage run to keep Gold likely is not worth it.
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Old Oct 14, 2018, 1:31 pm
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Originally Posted by MikeFromTokyo


And would you value that at over $1,000 per year?

The bag benefit also comes with credit cards.

In the poster’s situation to which I was referring, it would be better to either buy back the status, or do a challenge next year. Spending over $1,000 on a mileage run to keep Gold likely is not worth it.
As far as I know, no credit card gives a free checked bag on travel between the Mainland and the Caribbean zone. Do you have evidence to the contrary?

I was not placing a monetary value on the Gold benefits; just pointing out that they do have value. Whether they are worth $1,000 -- or any other amount of money -- might depend on how often one travels.
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Old Oct 14, 2018, 3:15 pm
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Join Date: Aug 2018
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Originally Posted by Margo39
Hi everyone,
I'm pretty clueless about status programs and "accidentally" achieved Platinum on AA a few years ago because of a job I had. I learned the value of that when I had a flight in Italy canceled and received amazing service. I'm now down to Gold status (and have been for three years) and I'm ok with it, but I'm about to lose it. My husband and I are now retired and we travel only for leisure. We've got a few int'l trips planned for 2019 (Caribbean, UK, Tel Aviv) so I'd like to keep Gold if possible for the convenience it offers. I know it's not that great for those of you who have higher status, but for us, it's perfect. Really don't want to lose it.

Do you have any suggestions for keeping it? I called AA and asked to be put on a challenge and was told that I'd have to wait until I lose status to do it. The rep suggested I book a few first class tickets. That would cost about $2k minimum from what I can see - and if that's the case, isn't it better to wait, lose the status and be put on a challenge? Are there any cheap runs I can do first class that can get me where I need to be? I'm about halfway on EQM (11,830) and EQD (1486) with only 8 segments.

Thank you in advance for your expertise - I am so excited to have found this forum and wish I'd found it while I was flying for business!
Margo
I have a couple of suggestions. 1st, get the Barclay Aviator Red card (potential to earn EQD's) and pay every bill you can using it (pay off every month, of course) then, after a year ask to upgrade your account to Silver (potential to earn EQD's and EQM's). 2nd, compare Business and First fares when booking. An example, my husband had meetings in San Antonio and we wanted to visit a friend in Austin. Since he has to book his business travel through corporate I booked my ticket direct to Austin to meet him, I got a First R/T (each way booked as one-way) fare for less than $50 more than my husband's economy ticket. I stumbled across this because I was looking for one-way fares to San Antonio and Austin. You get double the EQM's on these depending on booking code. Look at one-way fares, NOT just R/T, because one leg might be a bargain in a higher class but not R/T.

Good luck! I also love the free bag benefit when travelling out of the country, especially coming home
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Old Oct 14, 2018, 9:22 pm
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Hello everyone,

Will be flying LAX-SYD on Oct 27th. We have no status, so we booked flights in April and asked for upgrade (miles+fee). Checking Expert Flyer today and there is one J seat, so our chances are zilch to none for an upgrade it looks like. But we were told to ask if anyone had SWU? I was confused as to what they were talking about, but if they help us get an upgrade, I will be so grateful. I apologize if my question sounds redundant in any way. If anyone can help us, we would be quite happy. Thank you all for your help :-)
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Old Oct 14, 2018, 10:41 pm
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AA will allow an award ticket to be “held” for 5 days. Will they allow 2 different tickets to be on hold at the same time for the same traveler and same date? For example, would they allow JFK-LHR January 1st and JFK-LHR same date 4 hours later (same traveler) to both be on hold at the same time? If so, will they allow 2 tickets to be held which include the exact same first flight with different connecting flights? Thank you.

Several sources write that for an AA award, you can change your travel dates and routing at no cost so long as your origin, destination and class of service remain the same. Does that include awards on partner airlines and adding an extra flight? For example, PVG-AUH-JFK award booked on EY, presuming availability on the same date could one change at no cost to PVG-AUH-LHR on EY connecting to LHR-JFK on BA (understanding that BA fuel surcharge would apply)?

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Old Oct 14, 2018, 11:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Dr Jabadski
AA will allow an award ticket to be “held” for 5 days. Will they allow 2 different tickets to be on hold at the same time for the same traveler and same date? For example, would they allow JFK-LHR January 1st and JFK-LHR same date 4 hours later (same traveler) to both be on hold at the same time? If so, will they allow 2 tickets to be held which include the exact same first flight with different connecting flights? Thank you.

Several sources write that for an AA award, you can change your travel dates and routing at no cost so long as your origin, destination and class of service remain the same. Does that include awards on partner airlines and adding an extra flight? For example, PVG-AUH-JFK award booked on EY, presuming availability on the same date could one change at no cost to PVG-AUH-LHR on EY connecting to LHR-JFK on BA (understanding that BA fuel surcharge would apply)?
AA generally doesn’t allow impossible bookings, whether they are award or paid.

For the detailed rules, please see AA oneworld & Other Airline Partner Award information, rules (master thd), particularly the Wikipost at the top of the page.
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Old Oct 15, 2018, 6:18 am
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Originally Posted by Kitten81
Hello everyone,

Will be flying LAX-SYD on Oct 27th. We have no status, so we booked flights in April and asked for upgrade (miles+fee). Checking Expert Flyer today and there is one J seat, so our chances are zilch to none for an upgrade it looks like. But we were told to ask if anyone had SWU? I was confused as to what they were talking about, but if they help us get an upgrade, I will be so grateful. I apologize if my question sounds redundant in any way. If anyone can help us, we would be quite happy. Thank you all for your help :-)
SWUs are the international upgrades given to CKs and EXPs every year they qualify, it's basically the same thing as the miles/copay upgrade you're trying to use. The upgrades all come from the same inventory though, so even if you did have SWUs they wouldn't really help you get the upgrade any quicker, you would just be paying for it with a different currency.
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Old Oct 15, 2018, 6:25 am
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Originally Posted by Dr Jabadski
AA will allow an award ticket to be “held” for 5 days. Will they allow 2 different tickets to be on hold at the same time for the same traveler and same date? For example, would they allow JFK-LHR January 1st and JFK-LHR same date 4 hours later (same traveler) to both be on hold at the same time? If so, will they allow 2 tickets to be held which include the exact same first flight with different connecting flights? Thank you.

Several sources write that for an AA award, you can change your travel dates and routing at no cost so long as your origin, destination and class of service remain the same. Does that include awards on partner airlines and adding an extra flight? For example, PVG-AUH-JFK award booked on EY, presuming availability on the same date could one change at no cost to PVG-AUH-LHR on EY connecting to LHR-JFK on BA (understanding that BA fuel surcharge would apply)?
You can generally hold two different tickets on the same day for a "while", but there's a chance that AA's computers will automatically cancel one of them sometime over the next day.

However, you cannot hold 2 different tickets where one of the flights is exactly the same. So in your 2nd example, same first flight with different connecting flights, the computer will catch it and you'll get an error message when clicking through to put the 2nd one on hold.

As to changing awards, you can add a segment for no fee as long as the award type doesn't change and your origin and destination remain the same.
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