CRJ700 windows must remain open?

Old Dec 28, 17, 9:14 am
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CRJ700 windows must remain open?

FA told me windows on seat 1A and 1F must remain open for safety reasons?! Who am I to argue with her? First time I have ever heard this. What's the deal?
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Old Dec 28, 17, 9:19 am
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Perhaps a need to see conditions outside of forward doors to see if they should be opened in an emergency?
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Old Dec 28, 17, 10:33 am
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Surely the window shades, not the windows !

It's common on many carriers for the carrier's safety & security policy to require shades up for all seats for landing & takeoff. The reasoning being that it permits a double-check that in an emergency the aircraft is not upside down or otherwise facing a fire or other dangerous situation.

If the FA told you this during level flight, she is most likely poorly trained. If it's bothersome, send a note to AA asking that the crew be retrained.
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Old Dec 28, 17, 10:41 am
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Originally Posted by davidkierz View Post
FA told me windows on seat 1A and 1F must remain open for safety reasons?! Who am I to argue with her? First time I have ever heard this. What's the deal?
That's going to make it a bit cold........
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Old Dec 28, 17, 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by davidkierz View Post
FA told me windows on seat 1A and 1F must remain open for safety reasons?! Who am I to argue with her? First time I have ever heard this. What's the deal?
An answer: Airline staff reveal why window shades must be kept open during takeoff and landing
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Old Dec 28, 17, 12:01 pm
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After 9/11 I recollect being on flights where we were told to CLOSE the shades in the last 30 minutes prior to landing, the captain on the PA: "for obvious reasons please close your shades". I think the logic was that a terrorist on board wouldn't know over what spot the plane was preventing the explosives already on board the plane from doing the most damage.
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Old Dec 28, 17, 2:27 pm
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On any aircraft that doesn't have a viewport in the door (such as the CRJ), the FAs have to use the forward windows to ensure that the emergency exit can safely be deployed.
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Old Jan 5, 18, 4:13 am
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Originally Posted by Often1 View Post
It's common on many carriers for the carrier's safety & security policy to require shades up for all seats for landing & takeoff. The reasoning being that it permits a double-check that in an emergency the aircraft is not upside down or otherwise facing a fire or other dangerous situation.
Somewhat OT, but growing up (90's) I swear I had it drilled into me (either through experience or being told, I don't recall) that this was basically tantamount to universal law. And there are FAA regulations that are a lot more silly and a lot less practical than this one. Yet I haven't heard a U.S. carrier state this request in more than a decade. So, was this ever at any point any sort of regulation-driven requirement, or did I just make this up and convince myself of it as a young child in order to confuse my later adult self?
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Old Jan 5, 18, 6:04 am
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I hear this all the time on European airlines; do not ever recall it mentioned on a US domestic flight... then again, most US flight attendants seem to pick-and-choose which policies to announce/enforce on a day-by-day basis.
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Originally Posted by sombrachinesca View Post
I hear this all the time on European airlines; do not ever recall it mentioned on a US domestic flight...
yep, this was the case earlier this week on both Air Portugal and Norwegian flights.
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Old Jan 5, 18, 12:51 pm
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Asian airlines ask for the shades to be up as well, as I heard it this week on CX, TG, and NH.
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Old Jan 5, 18, 1:49 pm
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Originally Posted by sombrachinesca View Post
I hear this all the time on European airlines; do not ever recall it mentioned on a US domestic flight... then again, most US flight attendants seem to pick-and-choose which policies to announce/enforce on a day-by-day basis.
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Originally Posted by AC*SE View Post
On any aircraft that doesn't have a viewport in the door (such as the CRJ), the FAs have to use the forward windows to ensure that the emergency exit can safely be deployed.

this is the correct reason
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Old Jan 5, 18, 5:25 pm
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Originally Posted by asf-07 View Post
this is the correct reason
It's one of the correct reasons. The other major reason is so that emergency personnel can assess the situation inside the aircraft in the event of a crash or similar.
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