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upinsmoke Dec 19, 2017 12:37 pm

AA 777-300ER / 77W Premium Economy & Best PE Seat, Service
 
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For most AA900 in a couple of weeks (I checked December 28th through the 31st), the 77W listed doesn't have MCE. Jumps from row 15 to 20. It used to show as having MCE (I had a seat in row 17). I lost my MCE seat assignment and got moved to row 30-something. Called the EXP desk and they told me this plane doesn't have MCE. Any idea what's going on?
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...0f280e64a1.png

Seat photo c/o charliehotel

asf-07 Dec 19, 2017 12:53 pm

PEY retrofits are now ongoing, rows 16-19... one aircraft is complete so far. You may be scheduled to fly on that one. The seatmap may be broken if it isn't showing that section.

upinsmoke Dec 19, 2017 1:07 pm

Any idea which rows are MCE on the retrofitted 77W? That way I can at least pick that until the seatmap is fixed.

matrixwalker2012 Dec 19, 2017 1:20 pm


Originally Posted by upinsmoke (Post 29193605)
For most AA900 in a couple of weeks (I checked December 28th through the 31st), the 77W listed doesn't have MCE. Jumps from row 15 to 20. It used to show as having MCE (I had a seat in row 17). I lost my MCE seat assignment and got moved to row 30-something. Called the EXP desk and they told me this plane doesn't have MCE. Any idea what's going on?
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...0f280e64a1.png

phone agents that tell you that excuse just scream incompetence.

asf-07 Dec 19, 2017 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by upinsmoke (Post 29193762)
Any idea which rows are MCE on the retrofitted 77W? That way I can at least pick that until the seatmap is fixed.

nothing solid is out there, as we don't have reports from anyone who has been on this bus yet. the seatmap online shows some orange (presumably MCE) seats in the center block of seats at the front of the rear Y section.

jay_dubya Dec 19, 2017 1:34 pm


Originally Posted by upinsmoke (Post 29193762)
Any idea which rows are MCE on the retrofitted 77W? That way I can at least pick that until the seatmap is fixed.

Seems like none American Airlines Changes What Main Cabin Extra Means on Their 777-300ERs - View from the Wing

asf-07 Dec 19, 2017 1:34 pm

American Airlines Changes What Main Cabin Extra Means on Their 777-300ERs - View from the Wing



American Airlines Changes What Main Cabin Extra Means on Their 777-300ERs
by Gary Leff on December 19, 2017

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With the Boeing 777-300ER reconfiguration it appears they’ve gone US Airways style. The former Main Cabin Extra rows are now the new premium economy cabin. And it’s just the bulkhead seats behind premium economy in that section that is Main Cabin Extra. There is no more section at the front of coach with extra legroom. Instead the exit rows are naturally sold as Main Cabin Extra and they sell a block of extra legroom middle seats at the back of the plane as Main Cabin Extra.

...

American is eliminating the idea of a section of extra legroom seats at the front of coach from their 777-300ERs. Presumably this is about squeezing more seats into the plane, but has the added benefit of making sure Main Cabin Extra isn’t “good enough” for those who might buy up to Premium Economy. And that’s all on top of changing the Main Cabin Extra section in their 777-300s from 9-abreast seating to 10-abreast, taking away shoulder width. With this reconfiguration the plane goes from American’s best long haul plane for elites flying coach to arguably their worst long haul plane for elites flying coach.


asf-07 Dec 19, 2017 1:37 pm

Now for my own personal commentary. **** these ****ers and their tireless race to the bottom.

upinsmoke Dec 19, 2017 1:45 pm

wow, that is effed up. If this is indeed the case, hopefully I can score one of the PEY seats as they are not being sold as PEY. But in the future, having no real MCE Is going to suck.

dw Dec 19, 2017 1:47 pm


Originally Posted by upinsmoke (Post 29193936)
But in the future, having no real MCE Is going to suck.

"real MCE" on AA is just an extra legroom seat, which the 77Ws will continue to have. It sucks that MCE is going 10-across, but that was to be expected with the retrofit.

upinsmoke Dec 19, 2017 1:53 pm


Originally Posted by dw (Post 29193946)
"real MCE" on AA is just an extra legroom seat, which the 77Ws will continue to have. It sucks that MCE is going 10-across, but that was to be expected with the retrofit.

Not just 10-across, but now it will only be bulkheads (non movable arm rests) or exit row seats (no mobility-impaired or travelling with children).

asf-07 Dec 19, 2017 1:53 pm


Originally Posted by dw (Post 29193946)
"real MCE" on AA is just an extra legroom seat, which the 77Ws will continue to have. It sucks that MCE is going 10-across, but that was to be expected with the retrofit.

Sort-of. They’ll “continue to have” a very small number of them, and they’re awkwardly placed in the center section towards the back of coach. Compare that with the “Real MCE” on the renovated 772s and you’ll see the real difference.

GotCalcio4 Dec 19, 2017 2:17 pm

How much legroom do these center section seats in the rear of the 77W have? TBH, I've never sat in anything other than F, J, or MCE on this aircraft after my 15 or so flights on it.

asf-07 Dec 19, 2017 2:30 pm


Originally Posted by GotCalcio4 (Post 29194088)
How much legroom do these center section seats in the rear of the 77W have? TBH, I've never sat in anything other than F, J, or MCE on this aircraft after my 15 or so flights on it.

no one knows. no one has flown a revenue flight with this config yet.

Enhancements Dec 19, 2017 3:29 pm

For what it's worth, I don't think I'd miss the old MCE cabin that much.
The lack of padding, limited recline (was in 17L on 192 yesterday and the recline was bad for E+) and shockingly shallow seat pan makes this design a real pain after 4-5 hours. A domestic seat at best.


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