Dec 19, 2017, 2:43 pm
Last edit by: Prospero
AA has 20 Boeing 777-323ER / 77W aircraft in the fleet.
The final configuration includes:
8 First Class seats
52 Business Class
28 Rockwell Collins MiQ Premium Economy seats
. . . . (The 77W has received the same Premium Economy Seat as is in the 787-9 and other refitted widebodies.)
28 Main Cabin Extra (in 10 across configuration, all bulkheads or exit rows)
188 Main Cabin / Economy / Coach
All Rockwell Collins MiQ Premium Economy seats, in a 2-4-2 configuration, offer seatback flat 15.4" touch screen screen AVOD (can be tilted up or down slightly, corded hand controller) with 250 movies, 160 TV shows, 13 radio channels, 375 albums and 20 games; 110 VAC international multiplug and 5 VDC USB power. The front (bulkhead) seats offer foot rest bars that deploy from the seat; other seats have footpegs under the seat in front of you.
Ku-Band Satellite Panasonic Wi-Fi (not GoGo) is offered for sale.
Link to thread discussing First and Business Class seating.
See post #1 for seat chart and illustration
The final configuration includes:
8 First Class seats
52 Business Class
28 Rockwell Collins MiQ Premium Economy seats
. . . . (The 77W has received the same Premium Economy Seat as is in the 787-9 and other refitted widebodies.)
28 Main Cabin Extra (in 10 across configuration, all bulkheads or exit rows)
188 Main Cabin / Economy / Coach
All Rockwell Collins MiQ Premium Economy seats, in a 2-4-2 configuration, offer seatback flat 15.4" touch screen screen AVOD (can be tilted up or down slightly, corded hand controller) with 250 movies, 160 TV shows, 13 radio channels, 375 albums and 20 games; 110 VAC international multiplug and 5 VDC USB power. The front (bulkhead) seats offer foot rest bars that deploy from the seat; other seats have footpegs under the seat in front of you.
Ku-Band Satellite Panasonic Wi-Fi (not GoGo) is offered for sale.
Link to thread discussing First and Business Class seating.
See post #1 for seat chart and illustration
AA 777-300ER / 77W Premium Economy & Best PE Seat, Service
Sep 24, 2019, 11:56 am
#346
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: DFW - North Texas
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum, Marriot Bonvoy Lifetime Platinum/2022 Titanium
Posts: 960
Thanks Teemflyer... understood about complimentary Beer and Wine and from previous flights remember the quality.
appreciate the feedback!
appreciate the feedback!
On international flights the MCE beer and wine benefit is not in effect. Everyone in Y gets it (not of great quality, but still). However, being as far back as you are, you will have a lot of noise and traffic with the galley and lavs being very near by. LHR-DFW is a surprisingly long flight, and if you enjoy legroom, you might consider splurging on MCE. Even better in PE.. totally different experience, albeit not business, but very respectable for a day time flight.
Availability of buy-ups to PE is clearly defined by availability. If you can score it for $300 or less, definitely worth it IMHO.
Availability of buy-ups to PE is clearly defined by availability. If you can score it for $300 or less, definitely worth it IMHO.
Sep 24, 2019, 12:49 pm
#347
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Programs: Top Tier with all 3 alliances
Posts: 11,663
Hello all, a lowly GLD here traveling with MrsSlpybear next May to Europe on an O fare in Y for a decent price. Coming home on a daytime LHR-DFW AA777-300ER. Looking at the seat selection I chose 41A,C so we can have two seats alone and it looks like with the "tapering" of the plan there is a nice bit of extra space in the Aisle behind 40C. I can live with that but request some opinions for those that travel often on this aircraft.
1.) Is MCE 20J,L worth an extra $112 a seat? I've used MCE often domestically, but wonder if the benefits are worth it here... Spirits in addition to the already complimentary wine and beer and a plus of extra legroom. The only good MCE options are the 20J,L mentioned.
2.) Any opinions/experience in outboard seats for rows 40-42 in Y?
3.) and a question... Will buying up to PE be offered at any point? Was curious because I see it mentioned occasionally here. If so, was curious if it is done via APP before airport or just at Airport Kiosk.
Now, on to Y selection in the 777-200! Then, codeshares on BA to and from MUC and EDI!
1.) Is MCE 20J,L worth an extra $112 a seat? I've used MCE often domestically, but wonder if the benefits are worth it here... Spirits in addition to the already complimentary wine and beer and a plus of extra legroom. The only good MCE options are the 20J,L mentioned.
2.) Any opinions/experience in outboard seats for rows 40-42 in Y?
3.) and a question... Will buying up to PE be offered at any point? Was curious because I see it mentioned occasionally here. If so, was curious if it is done via APP before airport or just at Airport Kiosk.
Now, on to Y selection in the 777-200! Then, codeshares on BA to and from MUC and EDI!
The good thing I believe, if not mistaken, is that if you end up upgrading to PE, they may refund your MCE charges (double check it).
Last edited by nk15; Sep 24, 2019 at 12:55 pm
Sep 24, 2019, 7:32 pm
#348
Join Date: May 2015
Location: ATL/MCO
Programs: Costco Executive, RaceTrac Sultan of Soda, Chick-fil-A Red
Posts: 5,661
On international flights the MCE beer and wine benefit is not in effect. Everyone in Y gets it (not of great quality, but still). However, being as far back as you are, you will have a lot of noise and traffic with the galley and lavs being very near by. LHR-DFW is a surprisingly long flight, and if you enjoy legroom, you might consider splurging on MCE. Even better in PE.. totally different experience, albeit not business, but very respectable for a day time flight.
Availability of buy-ups to PE is clearly defined by availability. If you can score it for $300 or less, definitely worth it IMHO.
Availability of buy-ups to PE is clearly defined by availability. If you can score it for $300 or less, definitely worth it IMHO.
What is the official policy?
Sep 26, 2019, 12:33 pm
#349
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: San Diego
Programs: Plat Pro AAdvantage, but defected to BAEC
Posts: 1,222
Sorry if I worded my reply in a confusing manner. No difference in UG order based on P vs. W. Still based on rolling EQD for all UG requests. What I was trying to convey that most of the time W (full fare PE) is going to cost you way more than P (discount PE), but it seems that you have found a unicorn where the difference is negligible, and actually favors you when using miles+co-pay. Wouldn't expect that too often.
Sep 26, 2019, 1:39 pm
#350
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I had the same scenario on a LAX-LHR flight back in June. The W fare was only $100 more than the P fare. As I was going to submit a miles + copay request, I was tempted to upfare to the W fare to save on the copay and also save some miles, but a quick look on EF showed that my upgrade chances were abysmal, so I kept with the P fare. (We ended up around 10th on the list with only #1 clearing, so definitely a good call on that one on my part.)
Sep 26, 2019, 2:13 pm
#351
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: San Diego
Programs: Plat Pro AAdvantage, but defected to BAEC
Posts: 1,222
I was #1 on a waitlist once, but the GA started processing from the middle, I confronted them and they said that they are processing current PE customers first. So, I think they may be using this hidden rule against the published priority criteria. It may make sense for them because it will free up the PE seats for sale or gate upgrades. In your case it was probably a good call, but you may have also been upgraded first, despite being 10th on the list. In retrospect you were definetely lucky as the trip is over and you saved your miles and cash, lol.
We both cleared at T-48 on the return flight, so we did spend a little cash and some miles on that trip in the end.I did did find a double unicorn though on our LAX-LHR-LAX flights for next Easter in that both flights had C space showing at the time of booking. No need to book PE in case the upgrades didn’t clear. Just booked into Economy and let the miles + copays do the rest.
Even the call agent was surprised to see C space that far out (both flights were C7).
Sep 26, 2019, 2:23 pm
#352
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Flew in PE LAX/MIA (sold as MCE) first time as my upgrade didn't clear (usually clear on that route no problem, yesterday number 16 out of 36). I find those little peddles which I'm assuming are a footrest strange and not all that comfortable. The seat felt less comfortable than the PE on the 772.
Oct 15, 2019, 7:25 pm
#353
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: NYC
Programs: Kettle Class
Posts: 796
This comment made me want to offer another data point. I just finished a PE trip on the 773 from LHR-JFK in row 16. There was a sealed, half-liter bottle of water tucked away in the corner of the seat where the power point and the headphone jack are located.
I would not have noticed this bottle had the flight attendant in the jump seat across from me not pointed it out. So FYI for others, there is a bottle of water provided now, just know where to look for it. It will be obvious for folks trying to plug in a headphone or charge anything, but wasn't immediately apparent to someone like me who planned to just get some sleep after a long weekend. Granted this was my first time on AA's proper PE.
In addition, I did find the dining a step up from AA's usual transatlantic economy fare. A plated starter and separate hot entree afterwards seemed closer to AA's J-standard of dining service. I also hugely appreciate the PE snack salad versus the doughy pizza roll thing they serve in Y as the pre-landing meal.
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I would not have noticed this bottle had the flight attendant in the jump seat across from me not pointed it out. So FYI for others, there is a bottle of water provided now, just know where to look for it. It will be obvious for folks trying to plug in a headphone or charge anything, but wasn't immediately apparent to someone like me who planned to just get some sleep after a long weekend. Granted this was my first time on AA's proper PE.
In addition, I did find the dining a step up from AA's usual transatlantic economy fare. A plated starter and separate hot entree afterwards seemed closer to AA's J-standard of dining service. I also hugely appreciate the PE snack salad versus the doughy pizza roll thing they serve in Y as the pre-landing meal.
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Dec 13, 2019, 11:33 am
#354
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: DFW - North Texas
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum, Marriot Bonvoy Lifetime Platinum/2022 Titanium
Posts: 960
Unashamed plug to solicit other replies. TIA!
Hello all, a lowly GLD here traveling with MrsSlpybear next May to Europe on an O fare in Y for a decent price. Coming home on a daytime LHR-DFW AA777-300ER. Looking at the seat selection I chose 41A,C so we can have two seats alone and it looks like with the "tapering" of the plan there is a nice bit of extra space in the Aisle behind 40C. I can live with that but request some opinions for those that travel often on this aircraft.
1.) Is MCE 20J,L worth an extra $112 a seat? I've used MCE often domestically, but wonder if the benefits are worth it here... Spirits in addition to the already complimentary wine and beer and a plus of extra legroom. The only good MCE options are the 20J,L mentioned.
2.) Any opinions/experience in outboard seats for rows 40-42 in Y?
3.) and a question... Will buying up to PE be offered at any point? Was curious because I see it mentioned occasionally here. If so, was curious if it is done via APP before airport or just at Airport Kiosk.
Now, on to Y selection in the 777-200! Then, codeshares on BA to and from MUC and EDI!
1.) Is MCE 20J,L worth an extra $112 a seat? I've used MCE often domestically, but wonder if the benefits are worth it here... Spirits in addition to the already complimentary wine and beer and a plus of extra legroom. The only good MCE options are the 20J,L mentioned.
2.) Any opinions/experience in outboard seats for rows 40-42 in Y?
3.) and a question... Will buying up to PE be offered at any point? Was curious because I see it mentioned occasionally here. If so, was curious if it is done via APP before airport or just at Airport Kiosk.
Now, on to Y selection in the 777-200! Then, codeshares on BA to and from MUC and EDI!
AA PE Bulkhead IFE
Mar 6, 2023, 6:55 pm
#356
Join Date: Oct 2019
Programs: OW Emerald / BAEC Gold
Posts: 472
777-300ER Premium economy last row recline
Hi guys,
I am flying from DFW to LHR via 777-300ER and I am in the last row of premium economy cabin (18A) and I was wondering if this particular seat has the very same level of recline as rows 16&17?
Thanks.
I am flying from DFW to LHR via 777-300ER and I am in the last row of premium economy cabin (18A) and I was wondering if this particular seat has the very same level of recline as rows 16&17?
Thanks.
Aug 31, 2023, 10:07 am
#357
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 24
777-300ER Prem Econ- LAX-LHR
Question for everyone, I have only flown this flight in Business so I am not familiar with PE. Hopefully will get the mile upgrade, but not showing availability on any of the AA flights for even the week before, so not holding my breathe.
I am currently in 19D with the two middle seats open. But 16C just opened up and I am wondering if the bulkhead/exit is a better option? I have a love hate relationship with bulkead, but I am 6'4 and if there is extra room, that might help.
Anyone have any insight? Thanks!
I am currently in 19D with the two middle seats open. But 16C just opened up and I am wondering if the bulkhead/exit is a better option? I have a love hate relationship with bulkead, but I am 6'4 and if there is extra room, that might help.
Anyone have any insight? Thanks!
Aug 31, 2023, 10:12 am
#358
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: DCA/IAD
Programs: AA EXP; 1W Emerald; HHonors Diamond; Marriott Gold; UA dirt
Posts: 7,816
Im not a fan of 16 on the 77W - no window. I know that doesn't answer your question on legroom which should be limitless...
The TV screens are also mounted on a metal arm that folds into the arm rest area. As opposed to 19 where it will be mounted into the seat in front of you.
The TV screens are also mounted on a metal arm that folds into the arm rest area. As opposed to 19 where it will be mounted into the seat in front of you.
Aug 31, 2023, 10:16 am
#360
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 24
Im not a fan of 16 on the 77W - no window. I know that doesn't answer your question on legroom which should be limitless...
The TV screens are also mounted on a metal arm that folds into the arm rest area. As opposed to 19 where it will be mounted into the seat in front of you.
The TV screens are also mounted on a metal arm that folds into the arm rest area. As opposed to 19 where it will be mounted into the seat in front of you.
How is the legroom in normal PE? It would be the aisle in 16. I prefer the aisle being taller. Thanks for the insight!