Chances of Upgrade Clearing and Availability (2018 master thread)
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Jan 13, 18, 5:48 pm
#31
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Originally Posted by Antarius
This is probably your best bet. ExpertFlyer.com Help Desk Thread
When you say for intra-US flights.... are you looking to use a SWU/miles-copay? If so, yes, it is C for Y to J and A from J to F. About a year ago, AA standardized their fare buckets.. so while it is called FIRST domestically, and BUSINESS internationally (for 2 class flights), they both use J for full fare, C for upgrade and U for milesaver awards.
When you say for intra-US flights.... are you looking to use a SWU/miles-copay? If so, yes, it is C for Y to J and A from J to F. About a year ago, AA standardized their fare buckets.. so while it is called FIRST domestically, and BUSINESS internationally (for 2 class flights), they both use J for full fare, C for upgrade and U for milesaver awards.
Thank you... As I navigate through EF and make my way, this info helps. I have two separate trips that are nearly back-to-back (Intl then US-Dom). Thus, if the 2 SWU applied for the Intl legs do not clear, I plan to switch to the US-Dom flights accordingly. Tricky part is I return from Intl inbound leg approx. 2 days before departing on domestic outbound leg. Plan is to switch SWU's to the domestic trips as needed.
Thanks again for your info.
Jan 14, 18, 5:44 pm
#32
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Upgraded last night on AA 204 (PHL => AMS (AA 1985) & PHX => PHL at the gate. No meal choices, but happy to be up front!
Jan 15, 18, 11:14 am
#33
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Jan 15, 18, 11:42 am
#34
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Originally Posted by remedy
Upgraded last night on AA 204 (PHL => AMS (AA 1985) & PHX => PHL at the gate. No meal choices, but happy to be up front!
Jan 15, 18, 1:40 pm
#35
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SWU cleared today LAX-HKG for flight in two days. SWU for returning flight, HKG-LAX that departs in 8 days, cleared two days ago.
Wow... That's some advance clearing window indeed for the returning flight.
Wow... That's some advance clearing window indeed for the returning flight.
Jan 15, 18, 3:48 pm
#36
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JFK-LAX on a Tuesday late morning cleared about T-48h (UDU)
LAX-LHR on a Tuesday evening cleared about T-5d (SWU)
LAX-LHR on a Tuesday evening cleared about T-5d (SWU)
Jan 16, 18, 5:58 pm
#37
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LAX-SFO on a Monday evening cleared T-6d (complimentary)
Jan 16, 18, 9:21 pm
#38
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Originally Posted by Brandonjt
I'm not familiar with actual chances, but I'll give you the research and what little I know of it.
1/17 is a Wednesday, so it shouldn't be all that busy with business travelers who tend to clump at the beginning and end of weekdays.
ALB-CLT 8:00AM J4 D3 I2 Y7 with 4 of 12 seats still open on seating chart
CLT-DFW 11:45AM J7 D7 I4 Y7 with 8 of 16 seats still open on seating chart
DFW-GJT 2:40PM J7 D7 I7 Y7 with 11 of 12 seats still open on seating chart
From other posts I've read on here, I is one of most important indicators, because those are how many seats they are actively TRYING to sell.
Only 4 seats left on the first flight so I'd have a hard time chiming in there. Uneducated guess is that your CLT-DFW looks best. DFW is a hard upgrade because it's so busy but lots of open seats and I7.
1/17 is a Wednesday, so it shouldn't be all that busy with business travelers who tend to clump at the beginning and end of weekdays.
ALB-CLT 8:00AM J4 D3 I2 Y7 with 4 of 12 seats still open on seating chart
CLT-DFW 11:45AM J7 D7 I4 Y7 with 8 of 16 seats still open on seating chart
DFW-GJT 2:40PM J7 D7 I7 Y7 with 11 of 12 seats still open on seating chart
From other posts I've read on here, I is one of most important indicators, because those are how many seats they are actively TRYING to sell.
Only 4 seats left on the first flight so I'd have a hard time chiming in there. Uneducated guess is that your CLT-DFW looks best. DFW is a hard upgrade because it's so busy but lots of open seats and I7.
Jan 17, 18, 5:09 pm
#39
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I am a new EXP ( just made EXP Oct 2017). As a result, I was not aware of all of the tricks of redeeming SWU's. I booked an open jaw trip DFW-HKG and NRT-DFW to correspond to dates of a cruise in March. I requested SWU's for myself and spouse(also EXP Oct 2017). The DFW-HKG is on AA125 on 03/17/18 (Saturday departure)--since learned that is a difficult SWU. Been on the Upgrade list for months, still C0. The good news is that the NRT-DFW leg cleared in December. After this experience, I look for flights with C or A availability so the SWU's can clear at booking. I know that this is not always feasible for many trips.
I am still hoping that the AA125 SWU will clear, however, I know that DFW has a lot of AA EXP's.^
I am still hoping that the AA125 SWU will clear, however, I know that DFW has a lot of AA EXP's.^
Jan 17, 18, 5:43 pm
#40
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Originally Posted by nov11
JFK-LAX on a Tuesday late morning cleared about T-48h (UDU)
LAX-LHR on a Tuesday evening cleared about T-5d (SWU)
LAX-LHR on a Tuesday evening cleared about T-5d (SWU)
Jan 17, 18, 7:36 pm
#41
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AA 193 LAX HKG
1/16/18 flight
saw about 6 people on the upgrade list. i did not see how many cleared but expert flyer showed 2 empty J seats and 1 empty F seat available a couple hours before the flight
Twas a packed flight
1/16/18 flight
saw about 6 people on the upgrade list. i did not see how many cleared but expert flyer showed 2 empty J seats and 1 empty F seat available a couple hours before the flight
Twas a packed flight
Jan 17, 18, 11:16 pm
#42
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AA 193 LAX HKG
seven people on upgrade list and no J seat available. And only 4 F seats remain unoccupied according the FE at the moment.
Just about 40 mins ago there were 4 J seat s available with seven on the waitlist. Maybe the system is playing catch-up
Looking forward to a restful flight ahead of me.
seven people on upgrade list and no J seat available. And only 4 F seats remain unoccupied according the FE at the moment.
Just about 40 mins ago there were 4 J seat s available with seven on the waitlist. Maybe the system is playing catch-up
Looking forward to a restful flight ahead of me.
Jan 18, 18, 7:05 am
#43
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If it means anything, my flight to MAD and back out of JFK for 2 was cleared at booking. JFK-BCN also had availability at booking. Looks like it's pretty easy to use SWUs to Continental Europe during winter season.
Jan 18, 18, 7:42 am
#44
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My flight on the 787 from ORD-DFW for our family of 3 cleared at T-100... was very surprised! Granted, it was on a Sunday night - but color me impressed anyways.
Jan 18, 18, 1:38 pm
#45
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My limited stats so far this year have been acceptable as a PLAT PRO:
MCI-ORD (Sunday afternoon 1/7) cleared at T-72
ORD-ATL (Wednesday evening 1/10) cleared at T-72
ATL-CLT (Thursday evening 1/11) didn't clear - #17 on upgrade list
CLT-MCI (Thursday evening 1/11) cleared at T-48
MCI-ORD (Sunday afternoon 1/7) cleared at T-72
ORD-ATL (Wednesday evening 1/10) cleared at T-72
ATL-CLT (Thursday evening 1/11) didn't clear - #17 on upgrade list
CLT-MCI (Thursday evening 1/11) cleared at T-48
