How far is it from PHX-DEN?
Nov 10, 2017, 6:48 am
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How far is it from PHX-DEN?
EQMs for a flight I took yesterday from PHX-DEN just posted and I was credited for 588 EQM.
According to Great Circle Mapper, PHX-DEN is 602 miles.
Which is correct? If GCM is correct and AA is incorrect, is this something that AA Customer Service can correct? This is a route I will be taking from time to time, so several instances of those 14 EQMs could add up.
Cheers,
LBBZman
According to Great Circle Mapper, PHX-DEN is 602 miles.
Which is correct? If GCM is correct and AA is incorrect, is this something that AA Customer Service can correct? This is a route I will be taking from time to time, so several instances of those 14 EQMs could add up.
Cheers,
LBBZman
Nov 10, 2017, 7:00 am
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EQMs for a flight I took yesterday from PHX-DEN just posted and I was credited for 588 EQM.
According to Great Circle Mapper, PHX-DEN is 602 miles.
Which is correct? If GCM is correct and AA is incorrect, is this something that AA Customer Service can correct? This is a route I will be taking from time to time, so several instances of those 14 EQMs could add up.
Cheers,
LBBZman
According to Great Circle Mapper, PHX-DEN is 602 miles.
Which is correct? If GCM is correct and AA is incorrect, is this something that AA Customer Service can correct? This is a route I will be taking from time to time, so several instances of those 14 EQMs could add up.
Cheers,
LBBZman
Nov 10, 2017, 7:13 am
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I don't think the OP will get very far in his quest.
American Airlines is the final authority on the methodology used to calculate mileage and the amount of flight credit for a particular flight or routing.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...conditions.jsp
American Airlines is the final authority on the methodology used to calculate mileage and the amount of flight credit for a particular flight or routing.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...conditions.jsp
Nov 10, 2017, 7:33 am
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In terms of physical mileage, GCM is correct. Credited mileage on flights to/from DEN has long shown small discrepancies because AA still uses the location of the old Stapleton field.
That said, in terms of the mileage you earn, the number on AA's books is the final authority.
That said, in terms of the mileage you earn, the number on AA's books is the final authority.
Last edited by rjw242; Nov 10, 2017 at 7:57 am
Nov 10, 2017, 8:04 am
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In terms of physical mileage, GCM is correct. Credited mileage on flights to/from DEN has long shown small discrepancies because AA still uses the location of the old Stapleton field.
That said, in terms of the mileage you earn, the number on AA's books is the final authority.
That said, in terms of the mileage you earn, the number on AA's books is the final authority.
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=phx-den.old
Nov 10, 2017, 8:57 am
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Exactly what I think too... and did you know that GCMAP has the distances for the old/closed airports too!!!
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=phx-den.old
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=phx-den.old
From what I can tell, it looks like AA is also using the, "old," Austin airport in their calculations (Robert Mueller) and not Bergstrom (what was Bergstrom AFB). But in this case, for PHX-AUS, the difference is only a few miles. Even for DFW-AUS, it is 6 miles.
I guess I figure that since I live here, depending where I'm going, there may be some cases when I get a few miles less, and some cases where I'll get a few more. So it should all even out in the end.
Nov 10, 2017, 9:13 am
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Very interesting! I wonder how often airlines update their airports.
From what I can tell, it looks like AA is also using the, "old," Austin airport in their calculations (Robert Mueller) and not Bergstrom (what was Bergstrom AFB). But in this case, for PHX-AUS, the difference is only a few miles. Even for DFW-AUS, it is 6 miles.
I guess I figure that since I live here, depending where I'm going, there may be some cases when I get a few miles less, and some cases where I'll get a few more. So it should all even out in the end.
From what I can tell, it looks like AA is also using the, "old," Austin airport in their calculations (Robert Mueller) and not Bergstrom (what was Bergstrom AFB). But in this case, for PHX-AUS, the difference is only a few miles. Even for DFW-AUS, it is 6 miles.
I guess I figure that since I live here, depending where I'm going, there may be some cases when I get a few miles less, and some cases where I'll get a few more. So it should all even out in the end.
I do recall that when UA and CO merged there was a major uproar because they adopted all the distances in SHARES which in some cases "dramatically" different. After some feedback on FT (to put it midly) they ended up adopting the old UA values (or maybe they took the longer of the two-- I forget exactly).
So it can happen but that was probably a big exception one.
Nov 10, 2017, 9:14 am
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Nov 10, 2017, 9:21 am
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Nov 10, 2017, 10:29 am
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I don't think the OP will get very far in his quest.
American Airlines is the final authority on the methodology used to calculate mileage and the amount of flight credit for a particular flight or routing.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...conditions.jsp
American Airlines is the final authority on the methodology used to calculate mileage and the amount of flight credit for a particular flight or routing.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...conditions.jsp
And after thinking about it for a bit, even if OP was flying back and forth every day for a year, the difference would only amount to about 10k EQM... Hardly worth mentioning.
Nov 10, 2017, 10:33 am
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EQMs for a flight I took yesterday from PHX-DEN just posted and I was credited for 588 EQM.
According to Great Circle Mapper, PHX-DEN is 602 miles.
Which is correct? If GCM is correct and AA is incorrect, is this something that AA Customer Service can correct? This is a route I will be taking from time to time, so several instances of those 14 EQMs could add up.
Cheers,
LBBZman
According to Great Circle Mapper, PHX-DEN is 602 miles.
Which is correct? If GCM is correct and AA is incorrect, is this something that AA Customer Service can correct? This is a route I will be taking from time to time, so several instances of those 14 EQMs could add up.
Cheers,
LBBZman
In terms of physical mileage, GCM is correct. Credited mileage on flights to/from DEN has long shown small discrepancies because AA still uses the location of the old Stapleton field.
That said, in terms of the mileage you earn, the number on AA's books is the final authority.
That said, in terms of the mileage you earn, the number on AA's books is the final authority.
DEN-PHL: GC Mapper distance: 1558 miles
DEN-PHL: EQM credited on my flight a few weeks ago: 1569
+ 11
DEN-CLT: GC Mapper distance: 1338 miles
DEN-CLT: EQM credited on my flight a few weeks ago: 1348
+ 10
Nov 10, 2017, 10:35 am
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So it can very much matter.
Nov 10, 2017, 10:37 am
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Nov 10, 2017, 10:38 am
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