How far is it from PHX-DEN?
Nov 10, 2017, 10:43 am
#16
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Either way, the point is that these discrepancies, even with their small magnitudes can be significant/meaningful.
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Nov 10, 2017, 10:56 am
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Maybe, maybe not. And I am person who tracks my EQMs closely - think about the non-FTer population who just flies what they need to fly and doesn't pay detailed or any attention to qualification (there was another thread going on that recently)...
Either way, the point is that these discrepancies, even with their small magnitudes can be significant/meaningful.
Either way, the point is that these discrepancies, even with their small magnitudes can be significant/meaningful.
Miles earned are what they are? At least that's my take on it.
Nov 10, 2017, 3:07 pm
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OP here. Thanks for the reference to AA's calculation as final and the callout that it can work in your favor if going east or northeast ex-DEN.
Cheers,
LBBZman
Cheers,
LBBZman
Nov 11, 2017, 7:59 am
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Nov 13, 2017, 1:31 am
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This topic reminds me of a discrepancy that I’ve been wondering for a long time.
I understand that AA is the final authority to determine distances; however I found it intriguing that it’s not even consistent with itself on the exact same route.
According to my account activity:
AA193/192 LAX-HKG: 7260 miles as of Oct 17;
vs CX880 HKG-LAX: 7247 miles as of Sep 17.
AA8921 (CX metal) HKG-ORD: 7793 miles as of Sep 17;
vs CX807 ORD-HKG: 7787 miles as of Sep 17.
The trivial difference doesn’t bother me of course, but could it be an indication that AA applies double standards to AA and partner flights?
I understand that AA is the final authority to determine distances; however I found it intriguing that it’s not even consistent with itself on the exact same route.
According to my account activity:
AA193/192 LAX-HKG: 7260 miles as of Oct 17;
vs CX880 HKG-LAX: 7247 miles as of Sep 17.
AA8921 (CX metal) HKG-ORD: 7793 miles as of Sep 17;
vs CX807 ORD-HKG: 7787 miles as of Sep 17.
The trivial difference doesn’t bother me of course, but could it be an indication that AA applies double standards to AA and partner flights?
Nov 13, 2017, 4:37 am
#21
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This topic reminds me of a discrepancy that I’ve been wondering for a long time.
I understand that AA is the final authority to determine distances; however I found it intriguing that it’s not even consistent with itself on the exact same route.
According to my account activity:
AA193/192 LAX-HKG: 7260 miles as of Oct 17;
vs CX880 HKG-LAX: 7247 miles as of Sep 17.
AA8921 (CX metal) HKG-ORD: 7793 miles as of Sep 17;
vs CX807 ORD-HKG: 7787 miles as of Sep 17.
The trivial difference doesn’t bother me of course, but could it be an indication that AA applies double standards to AA and partner flights?
I understand that AA is the final authority to determine distances; however I found it intriguing that it’s not even consistent with itself on the exact same route.
According to my account activity:
AA193/192 LAX-HKG: 7260 miles as of Oct 17;
vs CX880 HKG-LAX: 7247 miles as of Sep 17.
AA8921 (CX metal) HKG-ORD: 7793 miles as of Sep 17;
vs CX807 ORD-HKG: 7787 miles as of Sep 17.
The trivial difference doesn’t bother me of course, but could it be an indication that AA applies double standards to AA and partner flights?
Nov 13, 2017, 7:16 am
#22
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I just noticed this too. I'm just barely going to qualify for plat this year so every EQM counts for me and I have it all planned out. I just did a PHX-DEN round trip and something looked off. Fortunately, I have about a 40 EQM buffer.
Now, even if I'm not using stickers to upgrade, I look at the upgrade area of the website for my domestic flights because it shows the distance in the place where it says how many 500-mile stickers you need.
Now, even if I'm not using stickers to upgrade, I look at the upgrade area of the website for my domestic flights because it shows the distance in the place where it says how many 500-mile stickers you need.
Nov 13, 2017, 10:39 am
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I just noticed this too. I'm just barely going to qualify for plat this year so every EQM counts for me and I have it all planned out. I just did a PHX-DEN round trip and something looked off. Fortunately, I have about a 40 EQM buffer.
Now, even if I'm not using stickers to upgrade, I look at the upgrade area of the website for my domestic flights because it shows the distance in the place where it says how many 500-mile stickers you need.
Now, even if I'm not using stickers to upgrade, I look at the upgrade area of the website for my domestic flights because it shows the distance in the place where it says how many 500-mile stickers you need.
Nov 13, 2017, 12:15 pm
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I'm going with the former.
Nov 13, 2017, 9:46 pm
#26
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I'm not trying to argue that's it worth calling AA to get them to change/correct things (it's patently a waste of time). And as I pointed out upthread - this cuts both ways, sometimes it's in the flyer's favor.
All I was saying is that "oh it's only 14 miles, it's not significant" - is not necessarily true.
Nov 14, 2017, 5:20 am
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I'm with you but on the EQD thing in my case. A few times I've been put on United planes and have fought to get those EQD and segments applied to my AA account because it did matter. I qualified EXP with 12005 EQD and 122 EQS.
Nov 14, 2017, 5:39 am
#28
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So indeed it's small difference.
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