Speculation: Safe To Say There Will Be Fewer EXP In 2018 ?
#62
Join Date: Jul 2011
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#63
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: LAX
Posts: 134
Was fun while it lasted, but this will be my last year as an EXP. "Normal" EQM was in the 75k range and I'd MR the rest to maintain EXP. But with the string of devals the past few years and in particular the cut in SWUs from 8 to 4, the cost of MRing ($ and time) no longer makes sense for me.
#64
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 53
I personally will not make it to EXP this year. Used to make EXP with a few Y international flights for work and a couple of J int flights for personal travel.This year decided to burn miles for J personal award travel. Dont find EXP worth it any more.
#65
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: New York, NY, USA
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I'll be an EXP again next year.
I'm now at $15+ EQDs ($3K of which are from CC spend) and 111+K EQMs. I think my year-end totals will be around $16.5 EQDs and 121.5K EQMs, as I have 3 remaining TATL legs that I will credit to AA before switching my FF crediting to BA for the balance of the year.
I suspect that EQD number will not help me much on the few transcons and even fewer flights to PHX/LAS that I take nowadays, but am hopeful that it will help on international flights, which constitute the vast bulk of my flying nowadays. Depending on how that goes, I may or may not try to requalify next year.
I'm now at $15+ EQDs ($3K of which are from CC spend) and 111+K EQMs. I think my year-end totals will be around $16.5 EQDs and 121.5K EQMs, as I have 3 remaining TATL legs that I will credit to AA before switching my FF crediting to BA for the balance of the year.
I suspect that EQD number will not help me much on the few transcons and even fewer flights to PHX/LAS that I take nowadays, but am hopeful that it will help on international flights, which constitute the vast bulk of my flying nowadays. Depending on how that goes, I may or may not try to requalify next year.
#66
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 3,698
But you could qualify in 2016 (for 2017 status) with the same EQM bonuses but without EQDs, so it seems strictly harder to qualify for next year than for this year.
#67
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP
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#68
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: AA, Hilton
Posts: 1
Effect of EQD Requirement on 2018 Elite Populations
Just curious if anyone has insight into how the new EQD requirement for 2018 elite qualification will effect the size/number of Elite members in each class. Will there be a considerable decrease in the numbers of EXP, etc.?
For example, but for the EQD requirement, I would be qualifying as PPRO; as it is, it looks like I will only be PLAT for 2018. Apologies if this has been asked and answered in a previous post (my searches came up empty).
For example, but for the EQD requirement, I would be qualifying as PPRO; as it is, it looks like I will only be PLAT for 2018. Apologies if this has been asked and answered in a previous post (my searches came up empty).
#69
Join Date: Jun 2008
Programs: AA, United,Hilton Honors, Hyatt, JetBlue,
Posts: 19
lowlife gold here. Due to some health issues this past year and then the hurricanes some of our trips were cancelled. We would have moved up past gold with what we had on the books and what we have left which are next month won't keep either of us at gold. Got the wonderful upgrade letter yesterday and someone is either smoking something really good or on a powerful drug to want those amounts of money. So sorry to say...for the first time in I can't remember I won't have status. Worse part is we have been upgraded over 75 percent of our flights this year...going to really miss that. Our son in law is a pilot on United...never understood our loyalty to AA but it was our loyalty to USAir. Says try United...out of Philly AA has the nonstops to where we travel the most...
#70
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Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
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Speculation: Safe To Say There Will Be Fewer EXP In 2018 ?
The only people who can answer your post authoritatively work for AA, and, were they to release detailed information on AA's elite customer base on an Internet bulletin board and to be caught doing so, would be fired for breaching NDAs and disclosing confidential information regarding AA's elite customer base in a way that materially affects corporate earnings (releasing this information could instantly instigate shareholder lawsuits were this disclosed outside of formal investor conferences/presentations). You're not allowed to do things like this for publicly traded companies for this exact reason.
But by all means we who don't work for AA can speculate without access to authoritative information (mindlessly if we care to do so) all we want...
But by all means we who don't work for AA can speculate without access to authoritative information (mindlessly if we care to do so) all we want...
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#72
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Manhattan Beach, California
Programs: BMI Diamond Club Gold forever
Posts: 6,350
There is some pretty good data in the buy up offers thread. There are many people with insufficient EQDs and they are offered a buy up amount that reflects the delta between where they are with EQDs and the EQD requirement, plus a bit more. There seem to be significantly fewer people like years past who are just short on miles and looking for a buy up that is "less than cost of a MR + inconvenience of a MR"
This is only FT data and its not much, but it suggests to me there will be fewer elites across all the buckets.
This is only FT data and its not much, but it suggests to me there will be fewer elites across all the buckets.
#73
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: SoCal
Programs: AA EXP, HHonors LTDia, Marriott Plat
Posts: 639
Let's Speculate!
Let's say 10% EXPs didn't make it and dropped to PPT. Then 10% PPTs didn't make it and drop to PLT, and so on. So if it affects same # of people the only tier that it would be effected would be EXP. But, if more EXPs drop to PPT that PPTs drop to PLT, then it would be a negative affect on PPT.
But it's all just guesswork. Ask back in 6 months and everyone will have a personal data point to share (yes, me too). But it's still guesswork.
Let's say 10% EXPs didn't make it and dropped to PPT. Then 10% PPTs didn't make it and drop to PLT, and so on. So if it affects same # of people the only tier that it would be effected would be EXP. But, if more EXPs drop to PPT that PPTs drop to PLT, then it would be a negative affect on PPT.
But it's all just guesswork. Ask back in 6 months and everyone will have a personal data point to share (yes, me too). But it's still guesswork.
#74
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Cheers.
#75
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: FNT, but DTW if I can't help it
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