ARCHIVE: Expanded / additional MileSAAver award and upgrade availability for EXP
#151
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: LAX
Posts: 6,769
We also need to remember that the EF polling is a periodic process, it is not continuous.
So it is perfectly possible for AA to release C inventory, have it sitting there for some time and then pick it up and use it for queued requests all without EF actually noticing it is there.
Hard to be precise and EF do not publish the details but if you are still a couple of days before the flight I wouldn't be surprised to find that there are at least a couple of hours between checks from the EF end based on what I've experienced.
So it is perfectly possible for AA to release C inventory, have it sitting there for some time and then pick it up and use it for queued requests all without EF actually noticing it is there.
Hard to be precise and EF do not publish the details but if you are still a couple of days before the flight I wouldn't be surprised to find that there are at least a couple of hours between checks from the EF end based on what I've experienced.
#152
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: NYC
Programs: AA EXP / LT PLT / 3MM, Marriott LT Gold
Posts: 35,388
What about the processing of C inventory by AA for those on the waitlist? Many times, I've asked to be put on the waitlist, and EF would notify me of C inventory available. I would call the EXP desk and my upgrade would be confirmed instantly. Why didn't the AA computers take care of that automatically? Did I jump the queue?
#153
Join Date: Feb 2008
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 3,049
I would say though that over the last 6 months or so the EF alert is happening less often than it used to, more of my upgrades are just happening without any 'help'.
#154
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: NYC
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#155
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: PDX
Posts: 988
i am waitlisted with a friend of mine on using my SWU for a recent trip to SA. My outbound is LGA-MIA-GIG on 3/4/11 and return GRU-JFK 3/13/11.
LGA-MIA wont clear until MIA-GIG. however there are 14 seats empty in J out of the 30. and on the GRU-JFK flight there are 30 seats empty in J.
Possible for me to call EXP and see if they can/will free up a couple seats on each flight in C and confirm my upgrade. How should i go about in asking this?
LGA-MIA wont clear until MIA-GIG. however there are 14 seats empty in J out of the 30. and on the GRU-JFK flight there are 30 seats empty in J.
Possible for me to call EXP and see if they can/will free up a couple seats on each flight in C and confirm my upgrade. How should i go about in asking this?
#156
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Ambassador, AA EXP
Posts: 2,704
I remember reading this somewhere, but I cannot remember where, so I would like verification.
For systemwide upgrades, for companions to inherit EXP status, do they have to be on the same PNR?
If they are on separate PNRs, do they clear at their respective status level rather than with the EXP?
For systemwide upgrades, for companions to inherit EXP status, do they have to be on the same PNR?
If they are on separate PNRs, do they clear at their respective status level rather than with the EXP?
#157
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin
Programs: AA EXP +2MM- LT PLT! HH Diamond
Posts: 6,087
I remember reading this somewhere, but I cannot remember where, so I would like verification.
For systemwide upgrades, for companions to inherit EXP status, do they have to be on the same PNR?
If they are on separate PNRs, do they clear at their respective status level rather than with the EXP?
For systemwide upgrades, for companions to inherit EXP status, do they have to be on the same PNR?
If they are on separate PNRs, do they clear at their respective status level rather than with the EXP?
#158
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: ORD
Programs: AA lifetime gold, United Mileage Plus silver, Marriott Platinum Elite
Posts: 503
Kudos: Expanded availability for EXPs
I have been railing against AA for a while now about their Long Haul Business product and their cutting routes BUT wanted to say that their treatment of EXPs is just amazing.
Have been looking to redeem miles from my wife's account (no status) for a domestic award to Reno or SF. Kept looking online and was unable to find 4 seats (self, wife and kids). Tried it from my account and wife's no difference.
Called the EXP desk and not only did they have availability on direct flights (was only getting connections online) but for one of the flights they were able to ask (and get) revenue management to open 2 seats for us when only 2 were open for a direct flight.
They did not care that the miles were coming from my wife's account as long as I was travelling with them.
All of her miles are from recent credit card bonus or purchases so real good deal.
Thank you EXP desk!!!
Have been looking to redeem miles from my wife's account (no status) for a domestic award to Reno or SF. Kept looking online and was unable to find 4 seats (self, wife and kids). Tried it from my account and wife's no difference.
Called the EXP desk and not only did they have availability on direct flights (was only getting connections online) but for one of the flights they were able to ask (and get) revenue management to open 2 seats for us when only 2 were open for a direct flight.
They did not care that the miles were coming from my wife's account as long as I was travelling with them.
All of her miles are from recent credit card bonus or purchases so real good deal.
Thank you EXP desk!!!
#159
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: New York
Programs: AA Concierge Key, Marriott Titanium Elite, National Executive Elite
Posts: 326
RM has the ability to add extra T seats for EXP only. When you see T is not available because the seats put out there are sold already, there may still be some seats available to EXP only. However, it varies from market to market how many extra T seats will be given for EXPs so your results can vary widely. I am glad it worked out for you!
#160
Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: AA EXP, AAirpass, & CK 2MM, MR Plat Premier, DL Plat, US Plat, UA RECOVERING GS
Posts: 2,620
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+1. The expanded availability for EXPs on AA metal is really a wonderful benefit.
+1. The expanded availability for EXPs on AA metal is really a wonderful benefit.
#161
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Location: LAX; AA EXP, MM; HH Gold
Posts: 31,789
RM has the ability to add extra T seats for EXP only. When you see T is not available because the seats put out there are sold already, there may still be some seats available to EXP only. However, it varies from market to market how many extra T seats will be given for EXPs so your results can vary widely. I am glad it worked out for you!
#162
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: New York
Programs: AA Concierge Key, Marriott Titanium Elite, National Executive Elite
Posts: 326
Yes, you are correct. The expanded availability can be set in A/X/Z/R/C/U/T inventories, each individually.
#163
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SEA
Programs: AA EXP (2.5MM), Hilton Gold, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 4,859
It's a great perk that apparently can somewhat carry over to other accounts. I was looking at DXB-LHR-ORD-SAT for a family friend on a combo of BA and AA. The BA Flights were there on the days I wanted but no AA flights showed online. I called up EXP desk and was able to put the BA/AA flights on hold while we figured out the account from which to pull the miles. Ended up that a friend who was only PLAT was able to pull the miles from their account and still use the expanded availability offered to me. I realize this may have been a bit against the AA rules, but the agents we spoke to had no problem putting the ticket on hold while talking with me and then pulling the miles from my Plat friend's account. Thanks AA!
#164
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Chicago
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 135
Ask early, or late?
This is really great news. I've been looking into booking some saver awards for the entire family for April, but the availability looks a little spotty.
The purchase price for ORD-CUN looks pretty attractive, so I've been assuming some of that inventory might be made available. Don't know that I would blow 35K miles on a $300 RT, but I'm tempted.
I'm phone phobic, so I typically don't call the EXP desk unless I'm in a jam.
The purchase price for ORD-CUN looks pretty attractive, so I've been assuming some of that inventory might be made available. Don't know that I would blow 35K miles on a $300 RT, but I'm tempted.
I'm phone phobic, so I typically don't call the EXP desk unless I'm in a jam.
#165
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,731
This is really great news. I've been looking into booking some saver awards for the entire family for April, but the availability looks a little spotty.
The purchase price for ORD-CUN looks pretty attractive, so I've been assuming some of that inventory might be made available. Don't know that I would blow 35K miles on a $300 RT, but I'm tempted.
I'm phone phobic, so I typically don't call the EXP desk unless I'm in a jam.
The purchase price for ORD-CUN looks pretty attractive, so I've been assuming some of that inventory might be made available. Don't know that I would blow 35K miles on a $300 RT, but I'm tempted.
I'm phone phobic, so I typically don't call the EXP desk unless I'm in a jam.
Beyond the expanded availability, I have had success in the past asking the agent to make a request to revenue management to open up seats that are otherwise not available. In that case, it seems like later would be better, as I was told several times that no seats were available, but that I should call back closer to departure. But still, it doesn't hurt to ask now, and then ask again later.