Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > American Airlines | AAdvantage
Reload this Page >

Boarding Process Enforcement - Cell Phones

Community
Wiki Posts
Search

Boarding Process Enforcement - Cell Phones

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 14, 2019, 4:46 am
  #121  
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Boston, USA
Programs: AA EXP, TK Elite, HH Gold, SPG/Marriott Gold
Posts: 939
This is NOT complicated and you only have to see how CX/JAL do it. They have one GA come to the line and check
the line to see if you are lined up in the correct lane by looking at the BP. Takes hardly 5 minutes to do but
makes sure that there are no group 9 people in group 3 boarding. This will mean the union employees of AA will
have to do some work and that could be difficult to pull :-)
HofstraJet, Antarius and Uzzar like this.
flyalways is offline  
Old May 14, 2019, 12:38 pm
  #122  
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold but PlatPro thanks to LPs
Posts: 4,439
Why do folks crowd around the gates and try to push their way into earlier boarding groups?

If you are a non-elite, non-credit card holding passenger, then crowding around the gate area hoping to push your way on to the airplane is your best strategy for getting overhead bin space for your belongings near your seat, where you can keep an eye on them during the flight. This saves you a bundle in checked luggage fees and ensures your luggage arrives with you at the destination.

I sometimes think some Flyertalkers forget what it is like to travel without elite status, without a co-branded credit card, without lounges and without any privileges. Some who fly exclusively for business might forget what it is like to travel without an expense account, paying for everything out of their own pocket on a middle-class income. Saving the checked luggage charge is big bucks when traveling with a family.

I often think the airlines should allow free checked baggage but charge for overhead bin space. That would solve a lot of the "gate lice" crowding problems.

Gate lice never bother me. I used to be one of them, before I got LT Gold.
QueenOfCoach is offline  
Old May 14, 2019, 1:01 pm
  #123  
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Boston, USA
Programs: AA EXP, TK Elite, HH Gold, SPG/Marriott Gold
Posts: 939
Originally Posted by QueenOfCoach
Why do folks crowd around the gates and try to push their way into earlier boarding groups?

If you are a non-elite, non-credit card holding passenger, then crowding around the gate area hoping to push your way on to the airplane is your best strategy for getting overhead bin space for your belongings near your seat, where you can keep an eye on them during the flight. This saves you a bundle in checked luggage fees and ensures your luggage arrives with you at the destination.

I sometimes think some Flyertalkers forget what it is like to travel without elite status, without a co-branded credit card, without lounges and without any privileges. Some who fly exclusively for business might forget what it is like to travel without an expense account, paying for everything out of their own pocket on a middle-class income. Saving the checked luggage charge is big bucks when traveling with a family.

I often think the airlines should allow free checked baggage but charge for overhead bin space. That would solve a lot of the "gate lice" crowding problems.

Gate lice never bother me. I used to be one of them, before I got LT Gold.
We do understand why people do it but that does not mean we have to take it ! A gate
lice is only delaying the entire boarding process and is being selfish. No one likes selfish
people !!
flyalways is offline  
Old May 14, 2019, 1:12 pm
  #124  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Programs: AAdvantage PP
Posts: 13,913
Originally Posted by QueenOfCoach
Why do folks crowd around the gates and try to push their way into earlier boarding groups?

If you are a non-elite, non-credit card holding passenger, then crowding around the gate area hoping to push your way on to the airplane is your best strategy for getting overhead bin space for your belongings near your seat, where you can keep an eye on them during the flight. This saves you a bundle in checked luggage fees and ensures your luggage arrives with you at the destination.

I sometimes think some Flyertalkers forget what it is like to travel without elite status, without a co-branded credit card, without lounges and without any privileges. Some who fly exclusively for business might forget what it is like to travel without an expense account, paying for everything out of their own pocket on a middle-class income. Saving the checked luggage charge is big bucks when traveling with a family.

I often think the airlines should allow free checked baggage but charge for overhead bin space. That would solve a lot of the "gate lice" crowding problems.

Gate lice never bother me. I used to be one of them, before I got LT Gold.
I understand as someone that from time to time flys DL as non status. However, I don't run up and jam the boarding lane when F is called in the way people feel the need to either jam the lane when Group 1 is called or increasingly just approach the card reader (and more and more the GAs just allow to board). Yes I can understand someone in Group 9 getting close to the boarding entrance when Group 6-7 is called so they might have a chance for carry on space. But when CKs are called? Yes, I agree that if AA charged for carry ons this would alleviate some of the gate hogging and AA would probably earn more revenue doing so.
MiamiAirport Formerly NY George is offline  
Old May 14, 2019, 4:55 pm
  #125  
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 1,285
Last night at DFW 2 people in group 9 tried to board with group 2. They had kids. GA didn’t let them but told them to bird with group 5. Which is bs. She should have sent them to board with group 9
gateH15 is offline  
Old May 15, 2019, 9:00 am
  #126  
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: USA
Programs: Chase Sapphire Reserve, WFBF
Posts: 1,573
Unfortunately gate lice is a vicious cycle. I board in group 3, but I have to start pushing my way to the front while group 1 is boarding. Otherwise, by the time they actually call group 3 both lanes will be full of people from groups 5, 6, etc, jockeying for position. Then the gate agent, seeing nobody coming forward for group 3, will start quickly rattling off more groups. The group 4 people of course are doing the same thing, which also makes the priority lane not very useful. So I become a gate louse even though my preference would be to wait away from the gate until my group is called.
TSparky likes this.
wetrat0 is offline  
Old May 15, 2019, 9:21 am
  #127  
PHL
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: PHL, NYC
Programs: AA PLT, DL SLV, UA SLV, MR LTT, HH DIA
Posts: 10,066
I'm in group 3 when not upgraded and usually maneuver my way to be close to the boarding lane around the time they call CK's. I try to be cognizant of those who are entitled to board ahead of me. Some gates at airports are pretty tight, though.

Once the group 1 pax move through, I'm close to the front because - especially on the E170/175 and E190 - MCE overhead space is gone if you board anywhere towards the end of group 3. Even worse, when a handful of group 2 ExPlt/PlatPro's did not get upgraded and grab their MCE seats, the overhead space is often gone completely and I'm going back 5-6 rows to find a place for my bag, swimming back upstream to get my seat, and upstream again during deplaning to fetch it again.
PHL is offline  
Old May 15, 2019, 10:32 am
  #128  
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: RDU
Programs: AA EXP / 1MM, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Platinum, IHG Gold
Posts: 198

Originally Posted by flyalways
I am surprised that my suggestion (based on my experience with CX , ANA
and JAL) was not commented on favorably in this thread :-( Gate agent
can quickly check boarding passes for people in the line and make sure
they are in the right lane and ordered by priority. Is that so difficult ?

F.A.
I’ve often wondered this, too, as someone who travels through Asia frequently, but it is also partially cultural. Not to provide too broad of a generalization, but many of these places are just more orderly and follow the rules. Look at the metro system in Taiwan, for example. They have these little diagonal lines on the platform, and people line up in an orderly fashion, let people off the train, and then board in order.

Gate setup at the airport also has a lot to do with it. You mention CX, for example. There aren’t many, if any, airports in the US that have the space to have the three separate lines like CX does at HKG.

I do do think there’s a lot of room for improvement in the boarding process, though, for sure.
razzaba is offline  
Old May 15, 2019, 12:44 pm
  #129  
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 8,937
Originally Posted by razzaba
Gate setup at the airport also has a lot to do with it. You mention CX, for example. There aren’t many, if any, airports in the US that have the space to have the three separate lines like CX does at HKG.
Some US airlines manage to do it with limited floor space. Not that UA has an ideal process, but last time I flew them there were at least 7 boarding lanes, snaked parallel to the gate and each other. I might detest WN's lack of assigned seats, but they have numbered posts and pax do line up in order.
anabolism is offline  
Old May 15, 2019, 12:56 pm
  #130  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: DEN
Programs: UA MM Plat; AA MM Gold; HHonors Diamond
Posts: 15,866
Originally Posted by anabolism
...Not that UA has an ideal process, but last time I flew them there were at least 7 boarding lanes...
Now down to 2. Can't comment as to whether it's any better than the 5 that it was previously since I get to preboard.
Bonehead is offline  
Old May 15, 2019, 12:59 pm
  #131  
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: VA
Programs: AA EXP, DL Gold, Hilton Lifetime Diamond, Wyndham Diamond, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 293
Talking

Originally Posted by flyalways
This is NOT complicated and you only have to see how CX/JAL do it.
My flights on JAL have always had the most organized and orderly boarding process. The first time I was wondering how they could allocate so little time for boarding a 777. They've got it down.. keeping passenger stress to the minimum.
skydve1 is offline  
Old May 15, 2019, 7:32 pm
  #132  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BOS/UTH
Programs: AA LT PLT; QR GLD; Bonvoy LT TIT
Posts: 12,753
Originally Posted by isle-hawg
AA encourages the use of the app for check in so they can save a fraction of a penny on printing out a boarding pass, ....
Now that sounds unnecessarily cynical. There are other benefits to mobile boarding passes, of course. For example, If you're using a mobile boarding pass, you tend to check in earlier than if you're using a paper boarding pass you obtain at the airport. So AA starts to gather information about who's going to show up for the flight somewhat earlier.
Dr. HFH is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.