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AA Ending AA Codeshare On QR / Qatar and EY / Etihad 25 Mar 2018

AA Ending AA Codeshare On QR / Qatar and EY / Etihad 25 Mar 2018

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AA to End Codeshares with Qatar and Etihad 25 Mar 2018

American Airines has stated its intent to end codesharing agreements with Etihad Airways and Qatar Airways effective 25 March 2018, notifying both carriers of their decision on 29 Jun 2017.

An AA spokesperson told Gary Leff (View from the wing, 12 Jul 2017 - link)

"In light of our ongoing dispute over the Open Skies agreements, American Airlines notified Etihad Airways and Qatar Airways on June 29 of our decision to terminate our codeshare relationships.

Given the extremely strong public stance that American has taken on the ME3 (Emirates, Etihad and Qatar) issue, we have reached the conclusion that the codesharing relationships between American and these carriers no longer make sense for us.

This decision has no material financial impact on American and is an extension of our stance against the illegal subsidies that these carriers receive from their governments. We are committed to doing everything we can to continue to support our team members and ensure that there is fair competition between American and the Gulf carriers."
AA and QR remain oneworld partners, so most current arrangements and agreements remain in place. (AA can change its miles, etc. earnings rates for any airline partner at any time.) Link to AA earning on QR.

For further information on earning AA status qualifying instruments on Qatar Airways, please see QR / Qatar Airways oneworld Partner: Earn and Redeem AA Miles

"In fact American says 'There are no changes to the frequent flier relationships or interline agreements at this time' with either Etihad or Qatar. (The Etihad relationship could presumably be revisited more easily in the future since it exists outside an alliance.)"
Etihad Airways is not a oneworld airline, and flying EY as EY earns only award miles. Link to AA EY earning page.

For further information on earning AA status qualifying instruments on Etihad Airways, please see Earning AA Miles EQM / EQD / EQS on EY / Etihad (master thread).

Other articles include:

The Points Guy

Forbes

CNBC

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Old Jul 12, 17, 3:35 pm
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AA Ending AA Codeshare On QR / Qatar and EY / Etihad 25 Mar 2018

AA is finally putting their money where their mouth is.
Codeshare ends in March 2018.
No change to mileage earning or interline agreements afaik.
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Old Jul 12, 17, 3:46 pm
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Very interesting, wow.
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Old Jul 12, 17, 3:48 pm
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Gary has some coverage:

http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....tive-march-25/

American appears to have decided they’re ‘all in’ on the strategy of getting the government to redistribute income from consumers to the big airlines. So they’re no longer going to codeshare with Etihad or Qatar.



...American tells me,

In light of our ongoing dispute over the Open Skies agreements, American Airlines notified Etihad Airways and Qatar Airways on June 29 of our decision to terminate our codeshare relationships.

Given the extremely strong public stance that American has taken on the ME3 issue, we have reached the conclusion that the codesharing relationships between American and these carriers no longer make sense for us.

This decision has no material financial impact on American and is an extension of our stance against the illegal subsidies that these carriers receive from their governments. We are committed to doing everything we can to continue to support our team members and ensure that there is fair competition between American and the Gulf carriers.
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Old Jul 12, 17, 3:51 pm
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Thanks for the link, JonNYC.

Interesting bit in Gary's story, too:

Meanwhile American Airlines filed an SEC 8-K this afternoon making public that they had been notified by the Federal Trade Commission that Qatar Airways had withdrawn its earlier filed notification of intent to acquire shares in the airline and replaced it with a new notification on Monday.
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Old Jul 12, 17, 3:59 pm
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This does now completely remove the ability to earn EQD's, EQM's, and EQS's on EY metal. Previously they were only earned on the AA codeshares. Still will get RDM's, but at a lower rate than booked as an AA codeshares. As a oneworld Traveller that goes to AUH every 6-8 weeks, this is going to sting. (Already stinging in that QR can't fly to AUH anymore) To get to AUH, I'm likely going to have to fly RJ or BA (Or CX into DXB).
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Old Jul 12, 17, 4:03 pm
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Great news. Party's over for the ME3.
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Old Jul 12, 17, 4:05 pm
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To be perfectly blunt, AA's partnerships in the Middle East with Etihad and Qatar are what has kept me loyal to AA.

If AA wants to go all-in with the antagonistic relationship and ends their partnerships, I'm gone.
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The smart money says at this point that this doesn't go any further at this point; that AA reluctantly did this because there was too much pressure/noise/etc to "do nothing."

So, barring major developments, I expect everything else to remain status-quo.
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Old Jul 12, 17, 4:17 pm
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It's getting tougher to keep all my flying with AA and OW. Not happy that *A is looking better and better.
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Old Jul 12, 17, 4:24 pm
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The smart money says at this point that this doesn't go any further at this point; that AA reluctantly did this because there was too much pressure/noise/etc to "do nothing."

So, barring major developments, I expect everything else to remain status-quo.
I wonder if Al Baker got an email from his "dear friend" DP letting them know this was essentially just a PR formality?
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That's a big one.

What changes regarding the ability to book EY with AA miles?
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That's a big one.

What changes regarding the ability to book EY with AA miles?
None.
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None.
Works for me
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Old Jul 12, 17, 4:31 pm
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I don't think AA pushing Etihad closer to star alliance is going to be a good thing for AA and it's frequent flyer program.
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Old Jul 12, 17, 4:42 pm
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As indicated in the AA - QR codeshares thread, http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...ar-2018-a.html, Forbes has an article here.
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