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This thread contains posts made prior to new upgrade and companion policies introduced 20 May 2017.
For the current thread, please see Companion upgrade issues including "link" / split PNR for status etc. (master thread)
For the current thread, please see Companion upgrade issues including "link" / split PNR for status etc. (master thread)
ARCHIVE: Companion upgrade issues including "link" / split PNR, etc. (<20 May 2017)
#151
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Programs: AAdvantage Exec Platinum, Hertz #1 Club Gold Five Star, IHG Platinum, Marriott Gold, HHonors Silver
Posts: 2,037
Absolutely not true.
Until 3 hours before departure, your companion on the same PNR automatically inherits your status. Of course if only one seat opens up you will both be skipped over.
At the airport, the link breaks and you have to get the check-in agent, an AC agent, or the GA to link your records together. She will shoot up on the list and be directly above or below you. Some agents don't know this and are shocked when they see it happen. You just have to inisist politely if you get an uninformed agent.
Trust me on this. I've had to do it scores of times.
(This is just for native AA flights.)
Until 3 hours before departure, your companion on the same PNR automatically inherits your status. Of course if only one seat opens up you will both be skipped over.
At the airport, the link breaks and you have to get the check-in agent, an AC agent, or the GA to link your records together. She will shoot up on the list and be directly above or below you. Some agents don't know this and are shocked when they see it happen. You just have to inisist politely if you get an uninformed agent.
Trust me on this. I've had to do it scores of times.
(This is just for native AA flights.)
And is there a way to make this automatic so that I DON'T have to deal with GA's that don't know how to do this. If the way to do this automatically is tied to my previous questions, can someone please help me with that?
#152
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: NYC
Programs: AA EXP / LT PLT / 3MM, Marriott LT Gold
Posts: 35,383
Since this failed two times in a row for me, what are the correct terms to use to the GA for this?
And is there a way to make this automatic so that I DON'T have to deal with GA's that don't know how to do this. If the way to do this automatically is tied to my previous questions, can someone please help me with that?
And is there a way to make this automatic so that I DON'T have to deal with GA's that don't know how to do this. If the way to do this automatically is tied to my previous questions, can someone please help me with that?
No question there should be a better way.
#153
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Programs: AAdvantage Exec Platinum, Hertz #1 Club Gold Five Star, IHG Platinum, Marriott Gold, HHonors Silver
Posts: 2,037
vasantn, what I'm asking though, is there a way to avoid confrontations with the GA on this? Would having my companion not have their AA number in their reservation make her appear on the list next to me? According to the GA's I spoke to (4 of them), they all said it would. If this is the case, I would rather do this than spend my time before a flight arguing with a GA about policy.
#154
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP - Marriott LT Platinum - National Exec Elite
Posts: 1,112
Since this failed two times in a row for me, what are the correct terms to use to the GA for this?
And is there a way to make this automatic so that I DON'T have to deal with GA's that don't know how to do this. If the way to do this automatically is tied to my previous questions, can someone please help me with that?
And is there a way to make this automatic so that I DON'T have to deal with GA's that don't know how to do this. If the way to do this automatically is tied to my previous questions, can someone please help me with that?
I usually just walk up to the GA well before boarding time and say "my wife is traveling with me, can you make sure she's marked as my companion?"
Never had an issue with a GA - but I could see how they might be peeved if you asked just moments before upgrades clear or boarding commences.
Your proposed method of not including the AA# may well work - but the idea of chasing miles afterwards sounds like more of a pain than it's worth. You'd have to save boarding passes, submit web forms, fight them when they're incorrect, etc.
#155
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Programs: AAdvantage Exec Platinum, Hertz #1 Club Gold Five Star, IHG Platinum, Marriott Gold, HHonors Silver
Posts: 2,037
reeg2, when you've done this before, were you an AA Executive Platinum or an AA Platinum? I want to make sure we're comparing apples to apples here.
#156
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 3,698
I'm surprised this has been a struggle because i've never had an issue the 2-3 dozen times I've done it while traveling with my wife.
I usually just walk up to the GA well before boarding time and say "my wife is traveling with me, can you make sure she's marked as my companion?"
Never had an issue with a GA - but I could see how they might be peeved if you asked just moments before upgrades clear or boarding commences.
Your proposed method of not including the AA# may well work - but the idea of chasing miles afterwards sounds like more of a pain than it's worth. You'd have to save boarding passes, submit web forms, fight them when they're incorrect, etc.
I usually just walk up to the GA well before boarding time and say "my wife is traveling with me, can you make sure she's marked as my companion?"
Never had an issue with a GA - but I could see how they might be peeved if you asked just moments before upgrades clear or boarding commences.
Your proposed method of not including the AA# may well work - but the idea of chasing miles afterwards sounds like more of a pain than it's worth. You'd have to save boarding passes, submit web forms, fight them when they're incorrect, etc.
#157
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 9
AA: Companion Upgrade Double Talk
I know there are lots of discussions about companion upgrades and I have literally read everything. This scenario we experienced this week just doesn’t make any sense.
Here are the bullets:
-I am Gold, my wife is Executive Platinum
-7/4/15: The two of us booked LAX-JFK on the same record for 9/4/15, Flight 292, requested electronic upgrade (500 mile) from coach to business.
-Split the records in July because it's the only way to "yes split" for the upgrade request.
-We have been doing "yes split" for the UG requests because lately we have been having issues where the automated system releases the electronic upgrades one at a time and Exec Plat’s with later time stamps jump us
-At the 100 hour window this week, my wife gets upgraded, we call and are told only 1 electronic upgrade (R Class due to 3 cabin plane) was available during the first "sweep" but the cabin is wide open and I'm listed as her companion and should clear next. So all seems fine.
-Between 100 hours and 24 hours we are watching the cabin fill up and it goes from J7 to J2.
-We call Executive Platinum today 3 times and are told all 3 times that the other Executive Platinum and Platinum need to get upgraded before I do because I'm gold. I ask what's the purpose of being an Executive Platinum companion then? Their response is: "so you don't have to pay for business class". I said that doesn't make any sense and they said: "well it's so you can use your wife's 500-mile upgrades" which also doesn't make any sense.
-There is one C-Class seat remaining per Expert Flyer so we grab it but not without feeling perplexed.
I'm sure there are lots of Executive Platinum who strategize to get their companions upgraded using the electronic (500 mile) upgrades. Do any of you have a clue what went wrong here? And what the hierarchy is for where an executive platinum companion falls who is traveling on a separate record locator?
Let me know if I skipped over any pertinent details.
Best,
Scotty
Here are the bullets:
-I am Gold, my wife is Executive Platinum
-7/4/15: The two of us booked LAX-JFK on the same record for 9/4/15, Flight 292, requested electronic upgrade (500 mile) from coach to business.
-Split the records in July because it's the only way to "yes split" for the upgrade request.
-We have been doing "yes split" for the UG requests because lately we have been having issues where the automated system releases the electronic upgrades one at a time and Exec Plat’s with later time stamps jump us
-At the 100 hour window this week, my wife gets upgraded, we call and are told only 1 electronic upgrade (R Class due to 3 cabin plane) was available during the first "sweep" but the cabin is wide open and I'm listed as her companion and should clear next. So all seems fine.
-Between 100 hours and 24 hours we are watching the cabin fill up and it goes from J7 to J2.
-We call Executive Platinum today 3 times and are told all 3 times that the other Executive Platinum and Platinum need to get upgraded before I do because I'm gold. I ask what's the purpose of being an Executive Platinum companion then? Their response is: "so you don't have to pay for business class". I said that doesn't make any sense and they said: "well it's so you can use your wife's 500-mile upgrades" which also doesn't make any sense.
-There is one C-Class seat remaining per Expert Flyer so we grab it but not without feeling perplexed.
I'm sure there are lots of Executive Platinum who strategize to get their companions upgraded using the electronic (500 mile) upgrades. Do any of you have a clue what went wrong here? And what the hierarchy is for where an executive platinum companion falls who is traveling on a separate record locator?
Let me know if I skipped over any pertinent details.
Best,
Scotty
#158
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP - Marriott LT Platinum - National Exec Elite
Posts: 1,112
I know there are lots of discussions about companion upgrades and I have literally read everything. This scenario we experienced this week just doesn’t make any sense.
Here are the bullets:
-I am Gold, my wife is Executive Platinum
-7/4/15: The two of us booked LAX-JFK on the same record for 9/4/15, Flight 292, requested electronic upgrade (500 mile) from coach to business.
-Split the records in July because it's the only way to "yes split" for the upgrade request.
-We have been doing "yes split" for the UG requests because lately we have been having issues where the automated system releases the electronic upgrades one at a time and Exec Plat’s with later time stamps jump us
-At the 100 hour window this week, my wife gets upgraded, we call and are told only 1 electronic upgrade (R Class due to 3 cabin plane) was available during the first "sweep" but the cabin is wide open and I'm listed as her companion and should clear next. So all seems fine.
-Between 100 hours and 24 hours we are watching the cabin fill up and it goes from J7 to J2.
-We call Executive Platinum today 3 times and are told all 3 times that the other Executive Platinum and Platinum need to get upgraded before I do because I'm gold. I ask what's the purpose of being an Executive Platinum companion then? Their response is: "so you don't have to pay for business class". I said that doesn't make any sense and they said: "well it's so you can use your wife's 500-mile upgrades" which also doesn't make any sense.
-There is one C-Class seat remaining per Expert Flyer so we grab it but not without feeling perplexed.
I'm sure there are lots of Executive Platinum who strategize to get their companions upgraded using the electronic (500 mile) upgrades. Do any of you have a clue what went wrong here? And what the hierarchy is for where an executive platinum companion falls who is traveling on a separate record locator?
Let me know if I skipped over any pertinent details.
Best,
Scotty
Here are the bullets:
-I am Gold, my wife is Executive Platinum
-7/4/15: The two of us booked LAX-JFK on the same record for 9/4/15, Flight 292, requested electronic upgrade (500 mile) from coach to business.
-Split the records in July because it's the only way to "yes split" for the upgrade request.
-We have been doing "yes split" for the UG requests because lately we have been having issues where the automated system releases the electronic upgrades one at a time and Exec Plat’s with later time stamps jump us
-At the 100 hour window this week, my wife gets upgraded, we call and are told only 1 electronic upgrade (R Class due to 3 cabin plane) was available during the first "sweep" but the cabin is wide open and I'm listed as her companion and should clear next. So all seems fine.
-Between 100 hours and 24 hours we are watching the cabin fill up and it goes from J7 to J2.
-We call Executive Platinum today 3 times and are told all 3 times that the other Executive Platinum and Platinum need to get upgraded before I do because I'm gold. I ask what's the purpose of being an Executive Platinum companion then? Their response is: "so you don't have to pay for business class". I said that doesn't make any sense and they said: "well it's so you can use your wife's 500-mile upgrades" which also doesn't make any sense.
-There is one C-Class seat remaining per Expert Flyer so we grab it but not without feeling perplexed.
I'm sure there are lots of Executive Platinum who strategize to get their companions upgraded using the electronic (500 mile) upgrades. Do any of you have a clue what went wrong here? And what the hierarchy is for where an executive platinum companion falls who is traveling on a separate record locator?
Let me know if I skipped over any pertinent details.
Best,
Scotty
#159
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 9
I don't think that's the case because in past when a no status friend was traveling with us (3 PNR's), I linked our friend with her as a "yes split". She got upgraded at T100, then our friend was upgraded T90 and finally me T72 (I was Plat at the time). Essentially our friend trumped me. Maybe this is because he had no status?
#160
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 3,698
But I've also believed (rightly or wrongly) that "yes split" could result in breaking the link if the elite gets upgraded and the companion does not--I would assume in that scenario the companion is now on their own to get upgraded. OP's past experience seems to contradict this, but current experience seems to confirm it so I'm not sure what the answer is. Maybe someone with a better knowledge of the upgrade computer can confirm. In any case, maybe a good time to use a SWU and lock in the upgrade?
#161
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Join Date: Feb 2001
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Posts: 12,453
ARCHIVE: Companion upgrade issues including "link" / split PNR, etc. (<20 May 2017)
If you split the PNR then your companion drops to the bottom of the list- no longer inheriting your status for priority. Depends on how badly you want the upgrade...if you split, it's more likely one of you (you) get it. If this isn't okay and you'd rather sit together regardless of cabin, don't split it.
#162
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: 6E Westbound, 4E Eastbound
Programs: AA EXP & 3MM, Priority Club Plat since 1984
Posts: 6,293
When my wife travels with the same PNR, she is the same as me and always appears with me in upgrades. I agree that the single seat release is an issue, but the system will recognize 2 aisle seats as a pair. (CLT BDL last week)
When traveling on different PNRs, I had no luck until an Angel at the AC did something and poof she and I were 1 & 2 on the list.
When traveling on different PNRs, I had no luck until an Angel at the AC did something and poof she and I were 1 & 2 on the list.
#163
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: BWI
Programs: AA Gold, HH Diamond, National Emerald Executive, TSA Disparager Gold
Posts: 15,180
Will they still add your companion to the wait list at the airport, and is your status still on them?
#164
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Phoenix/Columbus
Programs: Delta Silver Medallion, United Gold, US Airways silver
Posts: 1,717
This AM - Me (EXP) #1 on upgrade waiting list; Mrs. Remedy (Gold) #5. Same PNR.
#165
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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