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AA: $1.6 B renovations to LAX Terminals 4 & 5 (began 17 Oct 2018)

AA: $1.6 B renovations to LAX Terminals 4 & 5 (began 17 Oct 2018)

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Old Jun 2, 17, 9:59 pm
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AA: $1.6 B renovations to LAX Terminals 4 & 5 (began 17 Oct 2018)

As part of AA's negotiations for a new 15 year lease at LAX, AA has announced plans to spend $1.5 billion to renovate terminals 4 and 5:

American Airlines Chief Executive Doug Parker said Friday that his airline plans to spend more than $1.5 billion to upgrade the airline’s terminals at LAX airport over the next 10 years.

“This investment will not only improve the customer experience, but it will also give our team members a better place to work every day,” Parker said.

The announcement comes only a month after Delta Air Lines announced that it is spending $1.9 billion over the next four years to upgrade its two terminals at LAX.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...602-story.html

http://www.dailybreeze.com/business/...rminal-upgrade

http://mynewsla.com/business/2017/06...ects-15-years/

Very good news. Mentioned in some of the news sources is the hint of additional gates for AA, probably including all of terminal 5 at some point, when the other assorted airlines can be moved to the new mid-field terminal.
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Old Jun 2, 17, 10:07 pm
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Curious to hear specifics about what this means. Overall, good news though!
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10 years?? LOL.
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On the local news they mentioned Pre- and post-security connections between terminal 4 and 5.
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Originally Posted by TSparky View Post
On the local news they mentioned Pre- and post-security connections between terminal 4 and 5.
Both of those already exist.
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More specifics from LAWA press release:

LAWA, AMERICAN AIRLINES ANNOUNCE NEW LETTER OF INTENT

American Commits $1.6 Billion Investment, Will Continue to Grow Presence at LAX

(Los Angeles, California – June 2, 2017) Los Angeles World Airports (LAWA) and American Airlines announced today that American would continue its investment in LAX with more than $1.6 billion committed over the next 15 years to dramatically improve Terminals 4 and 5.

American’s letter of intent that sets the framework for negotiation of a new 15-year lease agreement features airport improvement projects that would be made possible by this investment and would happen over the next 7-10 years, including:


· A new vertical circulation core with connection to the landside Automated People Movers (APM) train system

· Unifying the passenger check-in and baggage claim areas

· Improving check-in facilities in T5

· Centralizing the T4 and T5 security screening checkpoint at the APM level

· Connecting T4 and T5 on both the landside and airside of the building, including an above-ground connection extending from the T4/TBIT Connector to T5 on the airside

These improvements would essentially be made by tearing down the lobby areas of T4 and T5 one small section at a time and building a new, state-of-the-art facility, all while keeping the airport up and running.

The agreement also paves the way for American to receive additional gates as they continue to grow their operation and add destinations.

“This is a substantial commitment on the part of American, and our Board of Airport Commissioners will soon be reviewing the details of the new lease,” said Deborah Flint, Chief Executive Officer of LAWA. “Today we want to make sure American knows we are so appreciative of their support and willingness to support our efforts to make LAX and Los Angeles a preeminent destination in the world. I’m so pleased that American shares our excitement for the future of this great airport, and wants to partner with us to achieve our vision to create a world-class airport.”

“This investment will not only improve the customer experience, but it will also give our employees a better place to work every day while allowing us to continue to grow in the marketplace,” said Doug Parker, Chairman and CEO of American Airlines. “We are committed to being the preferred airline at LAX, and we couldn’t do that without the more than 6,500 American Airlines team members making sure our 225 flights a day get out safely and on time. Our customers are counting on these team members to validate the trust they place in us each time they step onboard one of our aircraft.”

“This deal with American to dramatically improve terminals 4 and 5 along with projects like the new Midfield Satellite Concourse, the Automated People Mover, the consolidated rental car facility, and the renovation of terminals 2 and 3 are to deliver on our top priority - giving our passengers the world class experience they expect and deserve,” said Sean Burton, President of LAWA Board of Commissioners.
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Originally Posted by SFO777 View Post
Both of those already exist.
There is no pre-security connection between T4 and T5, unless you are thinking of the sidewalk.

The new pre-security connection would be a common ticketing lobby and baggage claim. The new lobby would span the distance between T4 and T5 and take out both the Flagship Check-in and the former Delta One facility.

The new post-security connection envisioned here would join T4 and T5 immediately post-security.
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Originally Posted by SFO777 View Post
10 years?? LOL.
It sounds funny, but it makes sense with the overall master plan for the airport.

As it is, AA has a reasonably modern facility at T4 and the changes are more in line with the airport's current pattern of growth.

Originally Posted by TSparky View Post
On the local news they mentioned Pre- and post-security connections between terminal 4 and 5.
Originally Posted by SFO777 View Post
Both of those already exist.
No, pre-security doesn't exist at all.

Originally Posted by LDVFlyer View Post
There is no pre-security connection between T4 and T5, unless you are thinking of the sidewalk.

The new pre-security connection would be a common ticketing lobby and baggage claim. The new lobby would span the distance between T4 and T5 and take out both the Flagship Check-in and the former Delta One facility.

The new post-security connection envisioned here would join T4 and T5 immediately post-security.
It sounds like the post-security connection would be a flow through from the T4-Bradley connector. If the plan is to centralize T4/5 security at the APM (higher) level, that means the current corridor from the primary security screening area can be repurposed to become a flow through bridge type connector, much like the connection between T6 and T7.
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Eagle's nest will close. T5 will be exclusively AA's. The two terminals will be merged essentially and while, yes, they are connected beyond security via a tunnel, they'll now be connected behind security above ground. Plus AA will continue to use TBIT, and when the new Midfield opens in 2019, AA's TBIT gates become preferential use.
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Originally Posted by N1120A View Post
No, pre-security doesn't exist at all.
Sure it does. It's called the sidewalk.
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Sure it does. It's called the sidewalk.
sidewalk, LOL
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Originally Posted by N1120A View Post
It sounds like the post-security connection would be a flow through from the T4-Bradley connector. If the plan is to centralize T4/5 security at the APM (higher) level, that means the current corridor from the primary security screening area can be repurposed to become a flow through bridge type connector, much like the connection between T6 and T7.
That was my first thought when I read about this AA terminal renovation at LAX. Will LAX AA terminal look like what UA LAX terminal is like? Maybe they will dig out old blue print of current UA LAX terminal from the storage and simply use that to save some money.
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So basically, something nice to look at while waiting 2 hours for one's gate.
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Originally Posted by MAH4546 View Post
Eagle's nest will close. T5 will be exclusively AA's. The two terminals will be merged essentially and while, yes, they are connected beyond security via a tunnel, they'll now be connected behind security above ground. Plus AA will continue to use TBIT, and when the new Midfield opens in 2019, AA's TBIT gates become preferential use.
Where did you read this? If they have all of 4 & 5 won't they have to bring along some one world partners as Delta is having to do with their new lease? If AA is allowed to use 4&5 exclusively and operate its intl departures out of TBIT that would seem to give them a huge advantage over Delta and United.
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Originally Posted by N1120A View Post
It sounds funny, but it makes sense with the overall master plan for the airport.

As it is, AA has a reasonably modern facility at T4 and the changes are more in line with the airport's current pattern of growth.
Yup, nothing funny here.

The timing is driven by reality. The two terminals will not be fully linked by the new head house until LAWA turns over most of T5 to AA.

A common head house is not necessary until then. Whatever the case, everything should be ready by the time of the 2028 Olympics.
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