Last edit by: Prospero
As of May 20, 2017 upgrade prioritization is:
Elite qualifying dollars* in the past 12 months
- Elite status
- Concierge Key
- Executive Platinum
- Platinum Pro
- Platinum
- Gold
- Upgrade type
- Miles and copay award upgrades and systemwide upgrades, Business Extra? (SWU)
- 500 mile upgrades on purchased tickets (including EXP complimentary UDU)
- 500 mile upgrades on upgrade eligible awards (including EXP complimentary UDU)
- BXP Business Extra upgrades
Elite qualifying dollars* in the past 12 months
- Booking class (in order, J, D, I, W, P, Y, H, K, M, L, V, G, S, N, Q, O, T)
Time of request
*Your 12-month Rolling EQD value is different from your Year-to-Date (YTD) EQDs, which is used to track your progress toward elite status. It includes your EQD earned from reaching qualifying spend thresholds on eligible AAdvantage® AviatorTM MasterCard® cards.
Link to EQD earning Help Desk thread on FlyerTalk.
No- or lower status companion and effect on upgrade position
WAIT LIST, SAME PNR: Prior to upgrade request going to airport list- SWU, Miles & Copay, Business Extra: lower status passenger "borrows" higher status. (BX is unsure, stated as least of priorities, likely to up D-24 only)
- 500 mile / UDU: lower status passenger "borrows" higher status
- Award travel: lower status passenger "borrows" higher status
- 500 mile / UDU: lower status passenger "borrows" higher status
WAIT LIST, SEPARATE PNR: Prior to upgrade request going to airport list- SWU, Miles & Copay: lower status passenger DOES NOT "borrow" higher status under any circumstance
- 500 mile / UDU: lower status passenger "borrows" higher status IF PNRs "linked"
- Business Extra upgrade instruments
- Award travel: lower status passenger "borrows" higher status IF PNRs "linked"
- Award travel: lower status passenger "borrows" higher status IF PNRs "linked"
- Business Extra upgrade instruments
- 500 mile / UDU: lower status passenger "borrows" higher status IF PNRs "linked"
AIRPORT LIST, SAME PNR:- SWU, Miles & Copay: lower status passenger "borrows" higher status. (BX is unsure, but is least of priorities, likely to up D-24 only)
- 500 mile / UDU: lower status passenger "borrows" higher status
- Business Extra upgrade instruments
- Award travel: lower status passenger "borrows" higher status
- Business Extra upgrade instruments
- 500 mile / UDU: lower status passenger "borrows" higher status
AIRPORT LIST, SEPARATE PNR:- SWU, Miles & Copay: lower status passenger DOES NOT "borrow" higher status under any circumstance
- 500 mile / UDU: lower status passenger "borrows" higher status IF PNRs "linked"
- Business Extra upgrade instruments
- Award travel: lower status passenger "borrows" higher status IF PNRs "linked"
- Business Extra upgrade instruments
- 500 mile / UDU: lower status passenger "borrows" higher status IF PNRs "linked"
NOTES:- Traveling companion 500 mile upgrades (even for those pax using UDU) "stickers" must pull from higher status passenger's account.
- Lower status passenger previously "borrowing" higher status may require human processing at the airport to re-establish "borrowed status" linkage
(Companion information thanks to DW)
- SWU, Miles & Copay, Business Extra: lower status passenger "borrows" higher status. (BX is unsure, stated as least of priorities, likely to up D-24 only)
Upgrade Priority: Status, Upgrade Type, Rolling 12 Month EQD Spend
#1
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
Upgrade Priority: Status, Upgrade Type, Rolling 12 Month EQD Spend
It has com to pass.
Upgrade priority will be based on Status held first, then by Elite Qualifying Dollar spend over the last 365 days, within upgrade types.
"New Upgrade Priority Link to Gary Leff, View From the Wing 16 May 2017
Upgrades are currently prioritized by elite status and then time of request.
Starting May 20 2017 upgrade prioritization will be:
This will necessitate new strategies and is sure to upset some apple carts. Even dates of Barclaycard $3k EQD for $25k spend on Red and Silver, and the additional $3k EQD for Silver who hit $50k spend postings will probably have effects on calculating when these will have their best and longest term effects.
But in the end, the highest EQD earning highest status members will benefit and those who barely meet EQD minima will suffer.
Upgrade priority will be based on Status held first, then by Elite Qualifying Dollar spend over the last 365 days, within upgrade types.
"New Upgrade Priority Link to Gary Leff, View From the Wing 16 May 2017
Upgrades are currently prioritized by elite status and then time of request.
Starting May 20 2017 upgrade prioritization will be:
- Elite status
- Upgrade type (mileage awards and systemwide upgrades followed by 500 mile upgrades on purchased tickets and then 500 mile upgrades on awards)
- Elite qualifying dollars in the past 12 months
- Booking class
- Time of request"
But in the end, the highest EQD earning highest status members will benefit and those who barely meet EQD minima will suffer.
Last edited by JDiver; Nov 5, 2018 at 8:29 pm
#3
Used to be 'g_leyser'
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Brandon Johnson International Airport (expect delays)
Programs: AA PlatPro, HH Gold, Bonvoy Gold, IHG Plat, Reno Air MEGA Platinum
Posts: 10,036
Having read the various blog posts, I still have two key questions on this:
1) Is there any way to see what our 2016 EQDs are? (Besides manually adding it up).
2) Where do BXP1 (Business Extra) paper upgrade certs fall in the priority? Are they treated same as SWUs/miles?
1) Is there any way to see what our 2016 EQDs are? (Besides manually adding it up).
2) Where do BXP1 (Business Extra) paper upgrade certs fall in the priority? Are they treated same as SWUs/miles?
#6
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chicago
Programs: AA- EXP UA - Silver SPG- PLT Marriott- PLT
Posts: 759
For me, I think this will be an overall net negative - this year I went from a job where I booked pretty close in (2 weeks to several days before departure) to a job where I regularly book 3-4 weeks or more before.
I would say I'm generally seeing more upgrades, but it's so route dependent. ORD>LGA remains tough (so many CK), but most other routes no problem.
I've had a handful of Thursday night upgrades where I've cleared or been #1 or #2 , and ultimately cleared, while the list has been 30+ people. For example, I had a thursday afternoon flight from DFW to LGA that was sold out in F when I booked about 5 weeks prior, but I was # 1 on the list. I utimately cleared (see below RE: CKs, after being moved down to #4 - thanks to a a couple that didn't want to split up).
My spend is likely above average, at least until November (I had some expensive international business travel in November 2016, don't think that will happen again).
For leisure travel, I generally book far in advance, and usually don't have a problem clearing upgrades. But again, it's very route dependent. On routes where PLTs and maybe even GLDs are clearing, it won't matter. On those unfortunate routes where EXPs are in the back, it might tip the tables.
I think what's hurt me more than anything is prioritizing CKs over EXPs. I've had several situations where I've been #1 or #2 on the list, only to be moved to #4 or #5 , presumably by CKs doing SDCFC and then getting on the UPG list. I can tell since their names (when called for boarding) tend to match the "cleared" names on the UPG list.
oh well...
I would say I'm generally seeing more upgrades, but it's so route dependent. ORD>LGA remains tough (so many CK), but most other routes no problem.
I've had a handful of Thursday night upgrades where I've cleared or been #1 or #2 , and ultimately cleared, while the list has been 30+ people. For example, I had a thursday afternoon flight from DFW to LGA that was sold out in F when I booked about 5 weeks prior, but I was # 1 on the list. I utimately cleared (see below RE: CKs, after being moved down to #4 - thanks to a a couple that didn't want to split up).
My spend is likely above average, at least until November (I had some expensive international business travel in November 2016, don't think that will happen again).
For leisure travel, I generally book far in advance, and usually don't have a problem clearing upgrades. But again, it's very route dependent. On routes where PLTs and maybe even GLDs are clearing, it won't matter. On those unfortunate routes where EXPs are in the back, it might tip the tables.
I think what's hurt me more than anything is prioritizing CKs over EXPs. I've had several situations where I've been #1 or #2 on the list, only to be moved to #4 or #5 , presumably by CKs doing SDCFC and then getting on the UPG list. I can tell since their names (when called for boarding) tend to match the "cleared" names on the UPG list.
oh well...
#7
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: DFW/DAL
Programs: AA Lifetime PLT, AS MVPG, HH Diamond, NCL Platinum Plus, MSC Diamond
Posts: 21,422
Of course you can............. There are some flights that don't even fill the first class seats....... not a lot, but it does happen. I am out of upgrades right now.
#9
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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Posts: 27,730
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#10
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 143
#11
Join Date: Oct 2007
Programs: AA, WN, UA, Bonvoy, Hertz
Posts: 2,491
I agree with the point about putting the almost useless tie breakers of booking code and date/time stamp. I can't imagine the exact same two EQDs from running twelve months.
We have to accept that early bookings and fare class will almost always not matter for revenue fare bookings eligible under this system.
I think having EXP and higher will still be mostly useful as I think many flights still get a few Plat Pros upgrade. For Plat and Gold, this maybe very disruptive. I am not sure how many EXPs fly on domestic awards because that would be disruptive to their elite accruals and booking for others alone won't count unlike United's (old) system.
Rasheed
We have to accept that early bookings and fare class will almost always not matter for revenue fare bookings eligible under this system.
I think having EXP and higher will still be mostly useful as I think many flights still get a few Plat Pros upgrade. For Plat and Gold, this maybe very disruptive. I am not sure how many EXPs fly on domestic awards because that would be disruptive to their elite accruals and booking for others alone won't count unlike United's (old) system.
Rasheed
#12
Join Date: May 2014
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 80
I know it's a zero sum outcome but personally I love these changes ^
I fly long haul business frequently so my EQD is quite high. I'm a cheapskate though so I almost never use reward points to book domestic biz. This will help my wife and I sit up front when we're doing weekend trips or flights out to the west coast to visit family. I also like the move away from time-of-booking based priority, which never really made sense. All in a positive change for higher spend customers.
I fly long haul business frequently so my EQD is quite high. I'm a cheapskate though so I almost never use reward points to book domestic biz. This will help my wife and I sit up front when we're doing weekend trips or flights out to the west coast to visit family. I also like the move away from time-of-booking based priority, which never really made sense. All in a positive change for higher spend customers.
#13
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
I know it's a zero sum outcome but personally I love these changes ^
I fly long haul business frequently so my EQD is quite high. I'm a cheapskate though so I almost never use reward points to book domestic biz. This will help my wife and I sit up front when we're doing weekend trips or flights out to the west coast to visit family. I also like the move away from time-of-booking based priority, which never really made sense. All in a positive change for higher spend customers.
I fly long haul business frequently so my EQD is quite high. I'm a cheapskate though so I almost never use reward points to book domestic biz. This will help my wife and I sit up front when we're doing weekend trips or flights out to the west coast to visit family. I also like the move away from time-of-booking based priority, which never really made sense. All in a positive change for higher spend customers.
#15
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: CMH, sometimes AVP, formerly down the Shore
Programs: UA 1K/3MM, AA EXP/3MM, DL MM, former fan of TWA
Posts: 1,854
Any idea how this will work for sponsored upgrades with a SWU for international travel? I presume the status level of the sponsor will stick with the request at least until some time close to the airport.
Last edited by gary_nj; May 16, 2017 at 1:12 pm Reason: spelling