PHX-LAS Fare
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PHX-LAS Fare
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I was looking at RT fares from PHX-LAS for 6/9 - 6/11. AA is only selling Main Cabin refundable tickets, and prices are absurd! $771 for a RT. Looking at seat maps, there are tons of seats available? Other carriers are in the $275 - $350 range. I checked the calendar in Las Vegas, and there is nothing major going on. Any idea why ticket prices would be so high? I have been watching these dates for over a month without any price reduction.
I was looking at RT fares from PHX-LAS for 6/9 - 6/11. AA is only selling Main Cabin refundable tickets, and prices are absurd! $771 for a RT. Looking at seat maps, there are tons of seats available? Other carriers are in the $275 - $350 range. I checked the calendar in Las Vegas, and there is nothing major going on. Any idea why ticket prices would be so high? I have been watching these dates for over a month without any price reduction.
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I checked WN, and a nonstop can be had $160 - $220 for the June dates.
Is it possible there is some internal reservation error at AA causing the inflated prices?
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Also, this applies to any AA hub to LAS nonstop. Whether it be LAX, DFW, MIA, ORD, etc. Prices are inordinately high for June 9 -11. For ORD, there are no Main Cabin economy seats for purchase at all!
I really wonder if somehow LAS was singled out in the reservation system, no matter the originating city.
I really wonder if somehow LAS was singled out in the reservation system, no matter the originating city.
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I'm booked JFK-LAS-JFK (non-stops) 6/10 (Sat)-6/13 (Tues) in "G" class; I paid RT $392 (about half the PHX-LAS-PHX)--yes!, screwy pricing.
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Also, this applies to any AA hub to LAS nonstop. Whether it be LAX, DFW, MIA, ORD, etc. Prices are inordinately high for June 9 -11. For ORD, there are no Main Cabin economy seats for purchase at all!
I really wonder if somehow LAS was singled out in the reservation system, no matter the originating city.
I really wonder if somehow LAS was singled out in the reservation system, no matter the originating city.
Last edited by xliioper; Mar 30, 2017 at 9:11 am
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Almost certainly due to NBA Finals which should be in full swing that weekend. Don't want to sell too many seats too cheaply right now as they will likely command a premium. You are also searching for flights on LAS's typical high demand days -- arrive on Thu or Fri, depart on Sun or Mon. If you book a Sat - Tue trip for that weekend - the fare drops to $210.
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I doubt it is due to the NBA finals. The finals are scheduled to start on 6/1 and the latest ending date is 6/18. Usually tickets to the cities participating are more expensive, not to LAS. Even during this 2 week window, flights to LAS the weekend before (6/2 - 6/4) or after (6/16 - 6/18) are still only $250. This pricing for the specific dates of 6/8 through 6/12 are perplexing.
Superbowl and March Madness are both big events in LAS irregardless of where the games are played. It wouldn't surprise me if the NBA Finals are the same. It's likely the teams will still be playing that weekend unless there is a sweep. I suspect there is not as much gambling interest in the first couple games which would explain why prices are lower for the first weekend in June. There doesn't seem to be any big conventions for that weekend, so the Finals would be the most logical explanation.
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OP (in post #1 ) notes that other carries (for his exact dates) are about 1/3 of AA, wouldn't they also being charging higher prices based on sports betting issues?
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So for such a short flight, you really have to ask yourself whether you need (and are willing to pay for) the 1,000 EQMs and the EQDs. Personally, I'd just take WN at a fraction of the price (and maybe pay $15 each way for Early Bird Checkin to ensure getting an aisle seat and finding space for my bag near my seat).
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This might not have anything to do with Las Vegas. Check the Phoenix calendar. Perhaps one city-wide convention/event is ending 6/9 and a new one is starting on 6/11 or 6/12. That might explain why other non-LAS flights to/from PHX are expensive.
That said, that scenario doesn't explain why other carriers aren't as expensive.
That said, that scenario doesn't explain why other carriers aren't as expensive.
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I was looking at RT fares from PHX-LAS for 6/9 - 6/11. AA is only selling Main Cabin refundable tickets, and prices are absurd! $771 for a RT. Looking at seat maps, there are tons of seats available? Other carriers are in the $275 - $350 range. I checked the calendar in Las Vegas, and there is nothing major going on. Any idea why ticket prices would be so high? I have been watching these dates for over a month without any price reduction.
I was looking at RT fares from PHX-LAS for 6/9 - 6/11. AA is only selling Main Cabin refundable tickets, and prices are absurd! $771 for a RT. Looking at seat maps, there are tons of seats available? Other carriers are in the $275 - $350 range. I checked the calendar in Las Vegas, and there is nothing major going on. Any idea why ticket prices would be so high? I have been watching these dates for over a month without any price reduction.
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Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
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Flight Availability Search Departing PHX on 06/09/17 12:00 AM for LAS Returning on 06/11/17 12:00 AM Flying AA Direct/Non-Stop Only Frequency Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes 0 Connections AA 1107 0 PHX LAS 738 Daily J7 D7 I0 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M7 L7 G0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 06/09/17 7:50 AM 06/09/17 9:03 AM 95% / 36m 0 Connections AA 1646 0 PHX LAS 321 Daily J7 D7 I0 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M7 L7 G0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 06/09/17 10:25 AM 06/09/17 11:41 AM 92% / 34m 0 Connections AA 1826 0 PHX LAS 321 Daily J7 D7 I0 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M7 L7 G0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 06/09/17 2:07 PM 06/09/17 3:18 PM 87% / 16m 0 Connections AA 636 0 PHX LAS 320 Daily J7 D7 I0 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M7 L7 G0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 06/09/17 5:20 PM 06/09/17 6:27 PM 93% / 16m 0 Connections AA 777 0 PHX LAS 321 F J7 D7 I0 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M7 L7 G0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 06/09/17 6:50 PM 06/09/17 8:02 PM NA / NA 0 Connections AA 626 0 PHX LAS 321 Daily J7 D7 I0 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M7 L7 G0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 06/09/17 8:30 PM 06/09/17 9:41 PM 89% / 31m
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Flight Availability Search Departing PHX on 06/09/17 12:00 AM for LAS Returning on 06/11/17 12:00 AM Flying AA Direct/Non-Stop Only Frequency Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes 0 Connections AA 1650 0 LAS PHX 320 Daily J7 D0 I0 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M0 L0 G0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 06/11/17 6:30 AM 06/11/17 7:44 AM 89% / 25m 0 Connections AA 1383 0 LAS PHX 738 Daily J7 D0 I0 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M0 L0 G0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 06/11/17 10:10 AM 06/11/17 11:26 AM NA / NA 0 Connections AA 623 0 LAS PHX 321 Daily J7 D0 I0 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M0 L0 G0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 06/11/17 12:35 PM 06/11/17 1:49 PM NA / NA 0 Connections AA 486 0 LAS PHX 321 Daily J7 D0 I0 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M0 L0 G0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 06/11/17 4:30 PM 06/11/17 5:41 PM NA / NA 0 Connections AA 1754 0 LAS PHX 321 Daily J7 D0 I0 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M0 L0 G0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 06/11/17 7:45 PM 06/11/17 8:57 PM 100% / 0m 0 Connections AA 1785 0 LAS PHX 321 Su J7 D0 I0 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M0 L0 G0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 06/11/17 9:00 PM 06/11/17 10:15 PM NA / NA
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Speculated date for McGregor - Mayweather is 6/10, although this is only based on a lot of media conjecture about event scheduling at T-Mobile Arena. Not really sure AA rev management would pick up on it.