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lotrbfme Mar 14, 2017 5:41 pm


Originally Posted by jay_dubya (Post 28036849)
Wow.
So even booking business class doesn't avoid BE.

If you read my post you will see that I was booked in Business transcon too and was downgraded to basic economy without seats and no possible "upgrade". I was given the same compensation as OP. 10k miles. A joke. AA is a joke anyways. If they didnt control most of MIA I would travel with United or Delta

fgirard Mar 14, 2017 6:12 pm


Originally Posted by lotrbfme (Post 28037829)
If you read my post you will see that I was booked in Business transcon too and was downgraded to basic economy without seats and no possible "upgrade". I was given the same compensation as OP. 10k miles. A joke. AA is a joke anyways. If they didnt control most of MIA I would travel with United or Delta

When I asked if they could route me on UA, they flatly refused, even though I know AA still has an agreement with UA, but not DL. If they couldn't put me back in I, I would have likely demanded a refund and bought a walk-up fare on UA or DL as they still had tickets to sell.

Update: I got 7,500 miles and a form letter for my troubles. I can only imagine what one gets when they are on an Economy fare.

ThreeJulietTango Mar 16, 2017 3:41 pm

Dammit, AA made it very clear to their agents that they were not to use B inventory when rebooking non-basic economy passengers. My guess is that the inadvertent booking into B was the product of previous training to rebook into the lowest available inventory.

On an otherwise full flight with availability Y1 H0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 B1, I'd wager that most agents would instinctively choose B over Y, even more so if they're not fully versed in the basic economy product. I doubt many agents have even seen a passenger traveling on such a fare yet, and agents at stations that aren't BE markets wouldn't have had much of a reason to pay attention. The B inventory in markets where BE is not offered may be "phantom" and automatically tied to availability in higher inventories.


Originally Posted by matrixwalker2012 (Post 28036609)
Why not just rebook in full Y like they sometimes do? I find the IRROPS rebooking in Y does two things, it gives the tickets max flexibility and the extra EQMs can do a good job at getting most pax to shut up and not come back asking for more. If crediting to a different program, the extra miles gained from full Y can also do a good job at getting those pax to not complain.

AA discourages rebooking into Y if a lower inventory is available, in part because of the "unearned" extra perks like Priority and additional EQMs.

bustraveler Mar 16, 2017 4:21 pm

It would be way too easy for IT to imbed a script that upon rebooking, it would automatically choose the original fare booking class or higher. ;)

ijgordon Mar 16, 2017 4:42 pm

I think the real travesty is the seeming inability of any front-line agents to rectify these screw-ups. QIK limitation? Or just poor service?

flyerCO Mar 16, 2017 7:55 pm


Originally Posted by ijgordon (Post 28046653)
I think the real travesty is the seeming inability of any front-line agents to rectify these screw-ups. QIK limitation? Or just poor service?

Agree. At least with DL when they moved to their version of QIK left access to the normal system. Thus way agents could fix things. At AA it's sorry we need to call someone or my favorite borrowed from KLM, "that is not possible."

ThreeJulietTango Mar 17, 2017 5:50 pm


Originally Posted by flyerCO (Post 28047202)
Agree. At least with DL when they moved to their version of QIK left access to the normal system. Thus way agents could fix things. At AA it's sorry we need to call someone or my favorite borrowed from KLM, "that is not possible."

Hopefully continued negative feedback from employees and customers alike will cause them to roll back some of the restrictions. From what I understand rebooking during IROPS took much longer this winter season because there are (legacy AA) agents working in a much more limited system that they are relatively unfamiliar with. And of course the culture among legacy US agents was already "computer says no", so they weren't of much help either.

oaken Mar 19, 2017 8:44 pm


Originally Posted by bedelman (Post 28037482)
Often1 very sensibly suggests a DOT complaint in order to increase the likelihood sure that the right people at AA are alerted, and that the problem is fixed in full. That rings true to me. Note that the best way to escalate in this way is via a "formal" DOT complaint, procedure at http://www.benedelman.org/dot-complaints/ , not the informal process at https://airconsumer.dot.gov/escompla...nsumerForm.cfm . The formal complaint goes straight to AA lawyers, not customer service staff, and AA will be required to respond to the entire interested public and officially and on the record. Much more accountability this way.

Thank you. I had no idea there was a "formal" process vs. "informal". I bookedmarked the links so I have more choice as to what to do when AA messes up. The DOT has already reprimanded AA due to an informal complaint I filed and now I know there is a formal way I am excited because it will make AA more accountable.

ExpatExp Mar 19, 2017 10:48 pm


Originally Posted by jay_dubya (Post 28036849)
Wow.
So even booking business class doesn't avoid BE.

A colleague just changed the dates of her flights (CX, paid J, booked through AA) and received an email confirmation from AA warning that she was in Basic Economy, with seats in CX J :rolleyes:

Definitely some weird stuff going on with regards to Basic Economy these days.

flyerCO Mar 19, 2017 10:55 pm


Originally Posted by ExpatExp (Post 28059105)
A colleague just changed the dates of her flights (CX, paid J, booked through AA) and received an email confirmation from AA warning that she was in Basic Economy, with seats in CX J :rolleyes:

Definitely some weird stuff going on with regards to Basic Economy these days.

If it sees the code that AA uses for BE fare class it can get confused.


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