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Air Wisconsin ends AA agreement in early 2018, moves to UA

Air Wisconsin ends AA agreement in early 2018, moves to UA

Old Feb 27, 17, 9:34 am
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Air Wisconsin ends AA agreement in early 2018, moves to UA

Looks like the Air Wisconsin agreement will end early next year, per this post on AirlinePilotForums. The fleet will be moving to United through 2023.

Drawdown of the 50 seaters continues; this will reduce 50 seat jet counts by 25%.
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Old Feb 27, 17, 9:48 am
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^ Send those torture tubes over to UA.
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Old Feb 27, 17, 9:50 am
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Air Wisconsin Contract with AA Set to Expire February 2018

While this is not exactly news, I noticed there was no mention of this in this forum and knowing many of us despise CR2s, I figure many will be happy to hear this and hope this actually follows through.

The AA/Air Wisconsin contract is set to expire in February 2018 and Air Wisconsin announced this morning they have entered a Capacity Purchase Agreement with UA to operate 65 CR2s for five years with two year contract extension (the same number of the entire current fleet operating for AA).

I do not know what AA plans to do to replace those 65 CR2s with when the contract expires or whether they will extend a smaller contract to help phase in new equipment other than the movement of Envoy E145s to Piedmont/Tran States. Somewhere it was also floated that AA aims to maximize slot limitations at DCA by upgauging 50 seaters to 76 seaters and DCA is planning to build a new terminal designed to mainly accommodate larger RJs such as the E175 to replace the current gate 35x set up for CR2s. AA does have options for up to 90 more E175s.

Air Wisconsin primarily operates CR2 flights out of DCA, PHL, LGA and BOS for AA.
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Old Feb 27, 17, 9:55 am
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Agree 100-billion %. Bye Felicia.
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Old Feb 27, 17, 9:58 am
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what did they operate--CR2 or 145's? Equally awful IMO but at least the CR2 has A row to itself.
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Old Feb 27, 17, 9:59 am
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It's great for losing CRJ2's, sure, but that no doubt means loss of routes that won't be replaced.
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Old Feb 27, 17, 10:01 am
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Originally Posted by enviroian View Post
what did they operate--CR2 or 145's? Equally awful IMO but at least the CR2 has A row to itself.
I think you mean the E145s have the single A seats. The CR2 is 2-2.
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Old Feb 27, 17, 10:03 am
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Originally Posted by wrp96 View Post
I think you mean the E145s have the single A seats. The CR2 is 2-2.
Yes--thanks for the clarification.
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Old Feb 27, 17, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by BThumme View Post
It's great for losing CRJ2's, sure, but that no doubt means loss of routes that won't be replaced.
More details here... My thread was posted minutes after this one (darn!).

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...ry-2018-a.html

Most of the CR2 flying have been slowly replaced by E145s that are being moved over from Envoy to Tran States (15) and Piedmont (48) as Envoy gets new E175s, however there still will be some loss of flights out of PHL/DCA/BOS as Piedmont is also drawing down its fleet of Dashs (36). Some routes ex-PHL have been canceled already - such as Elmira, Binghamton, etc.
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Originally Posted by golfingboy View Post
AA does have options for up to 90 more E175s.
Bring on the E175's for AA!
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Old Feb 27, 17, 11:06 am
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Bring on the E175's for AA!
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Actually my favorite narrowbody aircraft in the fleet!
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I hope to see the Dash 8-100 fleet stick around for a little longer to fill this gap!
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Old Feb 27, 17, 12:10 pm
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Originally Posted by ORD-DCA Flyer View Post
I hope to see the Dash 8-100 fleet stick around for a little longer to fill this gap!
Do any of AA's subbed haulers fly Q400's? Great bird.
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Old Feb 27, 17, 1:02 pm
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Originally Posted by enviroian View Post
Do any of AA's subbed haulers fly Q400's? Great bird.
Nope... They are terrible for reliability and while the savings looked good on paper vs other large jets they started to come to realization that the longer the stage the greater the loss in opportunities. Ask Horizon and UA
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