AA Marketed LY Codeshares to TLV from LHR, CDG, ZRH, BCN
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: ALW
Programs: AS Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 97
AA Marketed LY Codeshares to TLV from LHR, CDG, ZRH, BCN
Hi all -
Having problems finding an up to date answer to this question. I have a July itinerary booked JFK-LHR-TLV that I booked through AA.com. (Other options for me went through CDG, MAD, ZRH, and BCN.)
AA.com markets the TLV flights as AA codeshares, AA8372 and AA8371 (which correspond to LY316 and LY315).
Few questions -
(A) Will baggage be checked straight through? Or should I plan on getting my baggage in London at T3, and then hauling over to T4?
(B) At checkout, AA.com said I'd get EQMs and EQDs for the whole trip, including the LY leg, which surprised me, given that the forum talks about the discontinuation of codesharing with them. Can anyone confirm that they've recently been credited for these type flights?
(C) If B holds true, and I will be awarded EQM/EQD, I know that when I retrieved the LY PNR from AA so I could select seats on elal.com, I had to pull my AAdvantage number - because their site wants an LY Matmid number and doesn't accept other carriers' info. Does any tricks to getting this back in online that I should know before I go through a cycle of HUACAs to El Al customer service?
And finally, any other general recommendations about this set of flights you'd like to share are most welcome.
Thanks all...
Having problems finding an up to date answer to this question. I have a July itinerary booked JFK-LHR-TLV that I booked through AA.com. (Other options for me went through CDG, MAD, ZRH, and BCN.)
AA.com markets the TLV flights as AA codeshares, AA8372 and AA8371 (which correspond to LY316 and LY315).
Few questions -
(A) Will baggage be checked straight through? Or should I plan on getting my baggage in London at T3, and then hauling over to T4?
(B) At checkout, AA.com said I'd get EQMs and EQDs for the whole trip, including the LY leg, which surprised me, given that the forum talks about the discontinuation of codesharing with them. Can anyone confirm that they've recently been credited for these type flights?
(C) If B holds true, and I will be awarded EQM/EQD, I know that when I retrieved the LY PNR from AA so I could select seats on elal.com, I had to pull my AAdvantage number - because their site wants an LY Matmid number and doesn't accept other carriers' info. Does any tricks to getting this back in online that I should know before I go through a cycle of HUACAs to El Al customer service?
And finally, any other general recommendations about this set of flights you'd like to share are most welcome.
Thanks all...
#2
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Chicago, IL
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold 75k, AAdvantage Executive Platinum
Posts: 197
(B) At checkout, AA.com said I'd get EQMs and EQDs for the whole trip, including the LY leg, which surprised me, given that the forum talks about the discontinuation of codesharing with them. Can anyone confirm that they've recently been credited for these type flights?
#3
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: YYF/YLW
Programs: AA, DL, AS, VA, WS Silver
Posts: 5,950
I know that AA will not through-check bags on separate tickets on one PNR, so OP would have to verify that it's one ticket all the way through.
I do have trouble believing that AA won't through-check bags on one PNR when there are separate tickets within that PNR even though I know it to be true, so maybe my imagination is limited and I'm wrong.
#4
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Chicago, IL
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold 75k, AAdvantage Executive Platinum
Posts: 197
It's right there in the PDF: https://ssc.aa.com/prmportal_enu/Age...%20Tickets.pdf
AA-OA, bags will only be checked on AA. Codeshares don't matter for checked bags.
AA-OA, bags will only be checked on AA. Codeshares don't matter for checked bags.
Last edited by ORD-DCA Flyer; Feb 20, 2017 at 12:12 pm
#5
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DEN
Programs: AA EXP, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,556
It's right there in the PDF: https://ssc.aa.com/prmportal_enu/Age...%20Tickets.pdf
AA-OA, bags will only be checked on AA. Codeshares don't matter for Chechen bags.
AA-OA, bags will only be checked on AA. Codeshares don't matter for Chechen bags.
I'm not convinced of your assertion.
#6
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Matre-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
What if I have separate tickets in the same PNR for itineraries with American to a non-oneworld carrier?
Our policy on American to non-oneworld airline tickets has not changed. We will not through check customers or bags even if the tickets are in the same PNR.
#7
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: NYC
Posts: 27,161
I assume that language is more appropriate for travel-agent issued tickets.
#8
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DEN
Programs: AA EXP, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,556
I've purchased and flown such flights, and it was a single ticket on 001 stock.
#9
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 26,865
The separate AA and AA by LY sectors very likely have separate ticket numbers, even if they are on the same PNR. AA might through check, but that's not their stated policy.
What if I have separate tickets in the same PNR for itineraries with American to a non-oneworld carrier?
Our policy on American to non-oneworld airline tickets has not changed. We will not through check customers or bags even if the tickets are in the same PNR.
What if I have separate tickets in the same PNR for itineraries with American to a non-oneworld carrier?
Our policy on American to non-oneworld airline tickets has not changed. We will not through check customers or bags even if the tickets are in the same PNR.
#10
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: ALW
Programs: AS Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 97
It's a single ticket, starting with 001, and it's AA's. While the reservation is retrieved in LY's system under a different PNR since it's a different carrier, it shows all the legs, and any changes get reflected on the AA PNR. They're clearly linked. (For instance, when I assigned the seats using elal.com, I was able to see those seats on AA.com).
Would be curious to hear the experience of someone that's travelled on one of these codeshares recently... Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
#11
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: El Segundo, CA
Programs: AA ExPlat, National Executive Elite, Hotels.com Gold
Posts: 108
AA has an interline baggage agreement with LY. As long as the flights are on the same ticket, AA will check the bags through.
I just did an AA-EY itinerary on one ticket (EY segment was AA marketed, EY metal). EY is not a OW carrier, and AA checked the bag through without problems. This is the same situation.
I just did an AA-EY itinerary on one ticket (EY segment was AA marketed, EY metal). EY is not a OW carrier, and AA checked the bag through without problems. This is the same situation.
#14
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 1,309
I bought a ticket dca-clt-cdg-tlv this summer. Roubdtrip. Bought it on AA.com. My bags checked through all the way to TLV. It was the same ticket number all the way through- started with the 001. If AA is selling you the ticket, the ticket number will be the same, and theyre not going to sell a ticket that excludes baggage check in.
#15
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Matre-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
I bought a ticket dca-clt-cdg-tlv this summer. Roubdtrip. Bought it on AA.com. My bags checked through all the way to TLV. It was the same ticket number all the way through- started with the 001. If AA is selling you the ticket, the ticket number will be the same, and they’re not going to sell a ticket that excludes baggage check in.
Welcome to FlyerTalk. You won’t be able to use those on LY operated flights, as they’re not a oneworld member. You of course would be able to use those on AA connecting to LY.
Last edited by JDiver; Oct 1, 2019 at 12:49 pm