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Guide to Flagship Lounge Access (in revision)

Old Feb 16, 2017, 2:34 pm
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NOTE: Flagship Lounges and Flagship First Dining closed March 20, 2020. They will begin reopening in September of 2021, as discussed in this thread (link). This thread will reboot as the Premium facilities begin reopening and as AA announces any changes including access rules.


Beginning in spring 2017, AA began introducing their completely renovated or new, larger Flagship® Lounges – completely redesigned for qualifying First and Business Class customers.

Rules for expanded access to Flagship Lounges were published June 2017.

Features
  • More room for you to spread out and relax
  • Larger buffet with premium, fresh meals
  • Premium beer, wine and spirits
  • Updated interiors with additional power and privacy options
  • More staff in each lounge for the highest level of service


As well, Flagship Lounge access policies changed.

American Airlines has expanded access to the Flagship® Lounges (but reduced access to Flagship® Dining within the Flagship® Lounges):

Expanded access

In the new Flagship® Lounges (not to be confused with Flagship® Dining), eligible customers are:
  • First and Business Class customers (on qualifying international flights or 3-class transcontinental markets*)
  • AAdvantage® Executive Platinum (including Concierge Key), Platinum Pro and Platinum members in any cabin (on qualifying international flights*)
  • oneworld® Emerald and Sapphire members in any cabin (on all qualifying flights**)

Qualifying transcontinental flights

3-class non-stop flights between:

  • New York (JFK) and Los Angeles (LAX)
  • JFK and San Francisco (SFO)
  • JFK and Orange County (SNA)
  • LAX and Miami (MIA)
  • LAX and Boston (BOS)

Qualifying other domestic filghts

Flights with seats ticketed as Flagship® between:

  • Dallas Fort Worth (DFW) and Honolulu (HNL)
  • DFW and Kona (KOA)
  • DFW and Maui (OGG)
  • Chicago (ORD) and HNL
  • Charlotte (CLT) and HNL
Guest Access

1 guest (children over 2 count as a guest)

*Qualifying international flights are those between the U.S. and Europe, Asia, Australia, New Zealand, and South America (excluding Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Guyana, Peru, Suriname, and Venezuela) only. Qualifying transcontinental flights are defined as non-stop between New York Kennedy (JFK) and Los Angeles (LAX) or San Francisco (SFO). All other international destinations are excluded from this benefit. Departing flight must be the same-day (or before 6 a.m. the following day).

**AAdvantage Executive Platinum, Platinum Pro and Platinum members traveling solely on North American itineraries (other than flights mentioned immediately above) will not qualify. North America is defined as the United States (including Hawaii and Alaska), Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, the Bahamas and the Caribbean.

: An exception usually exists for First and Business passengers on AA Flagship (three class aircraft actually sold as three classes), such as the seasonal MIA-LAX 77W and LAX-BOS A321T.

NOTE: Flagship® First Class customers on American’s 3-class international and transcontinental flights will have exclusive, complimentary access to Flagship® First Dining. Qualifying international passengers may bring one guest; qualifying domestic passengers are not allowed any guests.

NOTE: Flagship® First Class and Flagship® Business Class passengers traveling on 3-cabin transcontinental flights between JFK and LAX/SFO are allowed entry to the Flagship Lounge both upon departure and upon arrival (e.g. A passenger traveling business class nonstop from JFK to LAX will have access to the JFK Lounge and the LAX Lounge). However, passengers on this itinerary will not be allowed to bring in a guest if they are not also in the Flagship® cabin

Link to relevant "Flagship Lounge" aa.com page

Link to 2017 and 2018 posts archived from this thread.






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Guide to Flagship Lounge Access (in revision)

Old Mar 12, 2024, 5:00 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyingEgghead
Yes, it's not worded well -- "ticketed as Flagship" applies to AA flights, and all the international destinations listed would be considered Flagship in business and first. Other Oneworld flights to/from those destinations likewise qualify in business and first even though they might not use the Flagship term.
So, I'm looking at going to Rome from the US. I see some flights on AA.com that say 'Flagship available' on the Business box, but many do not. Many without are AA flights. The AA site says must be 'ticketed as Flagship' to get Flagship lounge access, even if Plat/Pro/ExPlat. Is that not the actual case as long as it is a 77-something going international?
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Old Mar 12, 2024, 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Lenflyer64
So, I'm looking at going to Rome from the US. I see some flights on AA.com that say 'Flagship available' on the Business box, but many do not. Many without are AA flights. The AA site says must be 'ticketed as Flagship' to get Flagship lounge access, even if Plat/Pro/ExPlat. Is that not the actual case as long as it is a 77-something going international?
Any longhaul business class on AA is considered "Flagship" regardless of what may appear at aa.com in the search results.

It's terribly confusing the way AA has tried to word the rules and the aa.com inconsistencies makes it worse. Depending on what and how you search sometimes it appears, sometimes it doesn't.

Basically just forget all about the "seats ticketed as Flasghip" nonsense. If you are flying AA metal (or a oneworld partner) to Europe in business class, you get Flagship Lounge access.
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Old Mar 22, 2024, 8:06 am
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So I know flagship says you just need a same-day oneworld flight (with my AS OWE status), and I have a J leaving JFK for that day which will get me into Soho.
But I'm self connecting ORD-JFK, and trying to see if which carrier I fly with matters. Must I fly with AA from ORD-LGA/JFK to get into ORD flagship? Or can I book other carriers and just show/scan my ex-JFK J boarding pass?
TYIA
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Old Mar 22, 2024, 8:16 am
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Originally Posted by beamerbenzbentli
So I know flagship says you just need a same-day oneworld flight (with my AS OWE status), and I have a J leaving JFK for that day which will get me into Soho.
But I'm self connecting ORD-JFK, and trying to see if which carrier I fly with matters. Must I fly with AA from ORD-LGA/JFK to get into ORD flagship? Or can I book other carriers and just show/scan my ex-JFK J boarding pass?
TYIA
Show your Soho qualifying BP to the FL agent at ORD and you should be allowed entry. You need not fly with AA from ORD-LGA/JFK to access the Flagship Lounge in ORD, only a One World Airline (although I'm unsure of any other airline that will get you there on that route).
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Old Mar 22, 2024, 12:13 pm
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Originally Posted by ghsbass0406
Show your Soho qualifying BP to the FL agent at ORD and you should be allowed entry. You need not fly with AA from ORD-LGA/JFK to access the Flagship Lounge in ORD, only a One World Airline (although I'm unsure of any other airline that will get you there on that route).
Damn, well only oneworld airline that operates ORD-JFK|LGA direct is AA. I was hoping I could fly on idk B6 or DL or UA for that segment. Ah well. Time to get price scalped.
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Old Mar 22, 2024, 12:19 pm
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Originally Posted by beamerbenzbentli
Damn, well only oneworld airline that operates ORD-JFK|LGA direct is AA. I was hoping I could fly on idk B6 or DL or UA for that segment. Ah well. Time to get price scalped.
If you want to guarantee that you get into the ORD Flagship Lounge then you need to book AA for the ORD-NYC segment. It's possible you could get in merely by them scanning your qualifying JFK-XXX boarding pass, but it's also possible they will want to see your ex-ORD boarding pass and not let you in if it's not oneworld.

If other carriers are substantially cheaper than AA then it's really a personal decision of whether you want to pay $X more to access the ORD FL.
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Old Mar 22, 2024, 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by beamerbenzbentli
Damn, well only oneworld airline that operates ORD-JFK|LGA direct is AA. I was hoping I could fly on idk B6 or DL or UA for that segment. Ah well. Time to get price scalped.
I have always shown my qualifying BP and nothing else. Even on separate tickets I have never been asked for departing ticket. YMMV
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Old Mar 22, 2024, 4:00 pm
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So I won't find out since I ended up with AA anyways because they were the cheapest for that Sunday. It's a hidden city lol, and I will abuse my status to get same-day confirmed to an earlier ord-jfk flight on Saturday prior cancel/ditch 2nd leg when I get to nyc. This route cost like $70 in main back in 2010s smh.
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Old Mar 30, 2024, 6:28 pm
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Long lax layover

Here is an interesting itinerary that I wonder if I qualify
JFK - Lax in Biz then Lax-OGG in F
Layover in Lax is 17 hrs or so
arrive 12:06am, leave at 525pm technically the same day …
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Old Mar 31, 2024, 4:58 pm
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cbrown5294,

Access shouldn't be a problem.
If you're not heading to a hotel, the issue will be that none of the clubs are open until 0430.
Admirals Club is open until 0030 but they probably won't let you in for 20 minutes when they've pretty much cleaned up everything except the self service.
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Old Mar 31, 2024, 5:22 pm
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Originally Posted by ttuna3
cbrown5294,

Access shouldn't be a problem.
If you're not heading to a hotel, the issue will be that none of the clubs are open until 0430.
Admirals Club is open until 0030 but they probably won't let you in for 20 minutes when they've pretty much cleaned up everything except the self service.
yes actually my home is in La, just doing a stop to repack etc before heading onto Hawaii
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Old Apr 1, 2024, 10:06 pm
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Originally Posted by beamerbenzbentli
So I know flagship says you just need a same-day oneworld flight (with my AS OWE status), and I have a J leaving JFK for that day which will get me into Soho.
But I'm self connecting ORD-JFK, and trying to see if which carrier I fly with matters. Must I fly with AA from ORD-LGA/JFK to get into ORD flagship? Or can I book other carriers and just show/scan my ex-JFK J boarding pass?
TYIA
I am late to the thread but as a data point at ATL from a few years ago I had no issues scanning my JFK-HEL boarding pass to get in the AC when flying ATL-JFK on a separate ticket on DL.
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Old Apr 16, 2024, 11:41 am
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I recall doing this years ago and was ok but wanted to double check.
flying Lax-Jfk on redeye in Biz
can I use the lounge (Greenwich) on my arrival for a shower and bite ?
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Old Apr 16, 2024, 11:58 am
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Originally Posted by cbrown5294
I recall doing this years ago and was ok but wanted to double check.
flying Lax-Jfk on redeye in Biz
can I use the lounge (Greenwich) on my arrival for a shower and bite ?
Yes for sure you do. And if you haven’t been since FL days be sure to check out the brewery and the bridge. Though not sure they open that early.

Don’t expect a hot shower. 20 degrees less max temp than Chelsea’s awesome hot shower.
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Old Apr 16, 2024, 3:38 pm
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Originally Posted by happiest_at_40000
Yes for sure you do. And if you haven’t been since FL days be sure to check out the brewery and the bridge. Though not sure they open that early.

Don’t expect a hot shower. 20 degrees less max temp than Chelsea’s awesome hot shower.
oh Chelsea is known for cold showers?! That’s not good lol
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