Feb 16, 2017, 2:34 pm
Last edit by: seawolf
NOTE: Flagship Lounges and Flagship First Dining closed March 20, 2020. They will begin reopening in September of 2021, as discussed in this thread (link). This thread will reboot as the Premium facilities begin reopening and as AA announces any changes including access rules.
Beginning in spring 2017, AA began introducing their completely renovated or new, larger Flagship® Lounges – completely redesigned for qualifying First and Business Class customers.
Rules for expanded access to Flagship Lounges were published June 2017.
Features
As well, Flagship Lounge access policies changed.
American Airlines has expanded access to the Flagship® Lounges (but reduced access to Flagship® Dining within the Flagship® Lounges):
Expanded access
In the new Flagship® Lounges (not to be confused with Flagship® Dining), eligible customers are:
1 guest (children over 2 count as a guest)
*Qualifying international flights are those between the U.S. and Europe, Asia, Australia, New Zealand, and South America (excluding Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Guyana, Peru, Suriname, and Venezuela) only. Qualifying transcontinental flights are defined as non-stop between New York Kennedy (JFK) and Los Angeles (LAX) or San Francisco (SFO). All other international destinations are excluded from this benefit. Departing flight must be the same-day (or before 6 a.m. the following day).
**AAdvantage Executive Platinum, Platinum Pro and Platinum members traveling solely on North American itineraries (other than flights mentioned immediately above) will not qualify. North America is defined as the United States (including Hawaii and Alaska), Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, the Bahamas and the Caribbean.
: An exception usually exists for First and Business passengers on AA Flagship (three class aircraft actually sold as three classes), such as the seasonal MIA-LAX 77W and LAX-BOS A321T.
NOTE: Flagship® First Class customers on American’s 3-class international and transcontinental flights will have exclusive, complimentary access to Flagship® First Dining. Qualifying international passengers may bring one guest; qualifying domestic passengers are not allowed any guests.
NOTE: Flagship® First Class and Flagship® Business Class passengers traveling on 3-cabin transcontinental flights between JFK and LAX/SFO are allowed entry to the Flagship Lounge both upon departure and upon arrival (e.g. A passenger traveling business class nonstop from JFK to LAX will have access to the JFK Lounge and the LAX Lounge). However, passengers on this itinerary will not be allowed to bring in a guest if they are not also in the Flagship® cabin
Link to relevant "Flagship Lounge" aa.com page
Link to 2017 and 2018 posts archived from this thread.
Beginning in spring 2017, AA began introducing their completely renovated or new, larger Flagship® Lounges – completely redesigned for qualifying First and Business Class customers.
Rules for expanded access to Flagship Lounges were published June 2017.
Features
- More room for you to spread out and relax
- Larger buffet with premium, fresh meals
- Premium beer, wine and spirits
- Updated interiors with additional power and privacy options
- More staff in each lounge for the highest level of service
As well, Flagship Lounge access policies changed.
American Airlines has expanded access to the Flagship® Lounges (but reduced access to Flagship® Dining within the Flagship® Lounges):
Expanded access
In the new Flagship® Lounges (not to be confused with Flagship® Dining), eligible customers are:
- First and Business Class customers (on qualifying international flights or 3-class transcontinental markets*)
- AAdvantage® Executive Platinum (including Concierge Key), Platinum Pro and Platinum members in any cabin (on qualifying international flights*)
- oneworld® Emerald and Sapphire members in any cabin (on all qualifying flights**)
Qualifying transcontinental flights
3-class non-stop flights between:
- New York (JFK) and Los Angeles (LAX)
- JFK and San Francisco (SFO)
- JFK and Orange County (SNA)
- LAX and Miami (MIA)
- LAX and Boston (BOS)
Qualifying other domestic filghts
Flights with seats ticketed as Flagship® between:
- Dallas Fort Worth (DFW) and Honolulu (HNL)
- DFW and Kona (KOA)
- DFW and Maui (OGG)
- Chicago (ORD) and HNL
- Charlotte (CLT) and HNL
1 guest (children over 2 count as a guest)
*Qualifying international flights are those between the U.S. and Europe, Asia, Australia, New Zealand, and South America (excluding Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Guyana, Peru, Suriname, and Venezuela) only. Qualifying transcontinental flights are defined as non-stop between New York Kennedy (JFK) and Los Angeles (LAX) or San Francisco (SFO). All other international destinations are excluded from this benefit. Departing flight must be the same-day (or before 6 a.m. the following day).
**AAdvantage Executive Platinum, Platinum Pro and Platinum members traveling solely on North American itineraries (other than flights mentioned immediately above) will not qualify. North America is defined as the United States (including Hawaii and Alaska), Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, the Bahamas and the Caribbean.
: An exception usually exists for First and Business passengers on AA Flagship (three class aircraft actually sold as three classes), such as the seasonal MIA-LAX 77W and LAX-BOS A321T.
NOTE: Flagship® First Class customers on American’s 3-class international and transcontinental flights will have exclusive, complimentary access to Flagship® First Dining. Qualifying international passengers may bring one guest; qualifying domestic passengers are not allowed any guests.
NOTE: Flagship® First Class and Flagship® Business Class passengers traveling on 3-cabin transcontinental flights between JFK and LAX/SFO are allowed entry to the Flagship Lounge both upon departure and upon arrival (e.g. A passenger traveling business class nonstop from JFK to LAX will have access to the JFK Lounge and the LAX Lounge). However, passengers on this itinerary will not be allowed to bring in a guest if they are not also in the Flagship® cabin
Link to relevant "Flagship Lounge" aa.com page
Link to 2017 and 2018 posts archived from this thread.
Guide to Flagship Lounge Access (in revision)
Jun 12, 2021, 9:24 pm
#241
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Curious to see if they will remain self-serve (drink-wise) or with fridges of canned/bottled drinks or if everything will be served now? If the latter, it will be a mess like Centurion lounges, which are nothing more than glorified school cafeterias with people lining up for trays of food. I imagine a lot of the niceties will disappear (live cooking station, jars of candy, etc) in the name of Covid safety even beyond the pandemic.
Jun 13, 2021, 1:16 am
#242
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Curious to see if they will remain self-serve (drink-wise) or with fridges of canned/bottled drinks or if everything will be served now? If the latter, it will be a mess like Centurion lounges, which are nothing more than glorified school cafeterias with people lining up for trays of food. I imagine a lot of the niceties will disappear (live cooking station, jars of candy, etc) in the name of Covid safety even beyond the pandemic.
Jun 21, 2021, 8:38 am
#243
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Your access to FL Vs. FFD would not be differentiated here. Your arriving BP from the FF Transcon gets you into FL/FFD upon arrival. You can have access to both until your DCA flight. However, if you leave maybe tell the desk you are leaving and will be back. Or when you come back just obviously show the BP from the arrival. Additionally, I have heard some people say FFD is meant for 1 meal but not to leave and return but in theory you can go take a stroll of the terminal and still come back to FFD. You should be good to go for both.
However, unless I've missed something FL is closed. Just still being used as Admirals overflow. And even if its open FFD is def. not open yet.
However, unless I've missed something FL is closed. Just still being used as Admirals overflow. And even if its open FFD is def. not open yet.
Jun 21, 2021, 10:29 am
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I'm flying International via LAX Wednesday. Since the FL isn't open how is the A club there? It's in T4 right? Do I have any other OW lounge options anyone can recommend?
Jun 21, 2021, 11:31 am
#246
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Jun 21, 2021, 12:02 pm
#247
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I heard that the FL lounge was basically converted into an AC and that some folks were able to use the Qantas First Class Lounge. According to Google Maps, they claim that the OW business lounge is opened during limited hours, but I haven't seen any threads or comments confirming this.
Jun 21, 2021, 12:27 pm
#248
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I heard that the FL lounge was basically converted into an AC and that some folks were able to use the Qantas First Class Lounge. According to Google Maps, they claim that the OW business lounge is opened during limited hours, but I haven't seen any threads or comments confirming this.
Unless something has changed very recently, it's well documented that the AC in T4 and thr AS lounge in T6 are currently the only oneworld lounge options at LAX.
Jun 21, 2021, 1:22 pm
#249
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Both the oneworld Business lounge and QF F lounge have remained closed in LAX TBIT. Where did you hear that anyone was able to use the QF F lounge? Google Maps "opening hours" is about the least reliable source I can think of regarding airport lounges opening or not, lol.
Unless something has changed very recently, it's well documented that the AC in T4 and thr AS lounge in T6 are currently the only oneworld lounge options at LAX.
Unless something has changed very recently, it's well documented that the AC in T4 and thr AS lounge in T6 are currently the only oneworld lounge options at LAX.
Jun 27, 2021, 9:09 pm
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2 quick questions. I'm flying in Flagship First on JFK-SFO flight at the end of July. I understand that the FL is closed and there is no FFD nowadays either.
Are there *any* special perks for FF passengers at the JFK AC lounge? (Will I at least get to sip some Krug?)
And upon arrival at SFO, is the AC in Terminal 1 my only option? (I don't have any status with One World airlines.)
Are there *any* special perks for FF passengers at the JFK AC lounge? (Will I at least get to sip some Krug?)
And upon arrival at SFO, is the AC in Terminal 1 my only option? (I don't have any status with One World airlines.)
Jun 27, 2021, 10:46 pm
#252
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2 quick questions. I'm flying in Flagship First on JFK-SFO flight at the end of July. I understand that the FL is closed and there is no FFD nowadays either.
Are there *any* special perks for FF passengers at the JFK AC lounge? (Will I at least get to sip some Krug?)
And upon arrival at SFO, is the AC in Terminal 1 my only option? (I don't have any status with One World airlines.)
Are there *any* special perks for FF passengers at the JFK AC lounge? (Will I at least get to sip some Krug?)
And upon arrival at SFO, is the AC in Terminal 1 my only option? (I don't have any status with One World airlines.)
Jun 27, 2021, 10:50 pm
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2 quick questions. I'm flying in Flagship First on JFK-SFO flight at the end of July. I understand that the FL is closed and there is no FFD nowadays either.
Are there *any* special perks for FF passengers at the JFK AC lounge? (Will I at least get to sip some Krug?)
And upon arrival at SFO, is the AC in Terminal 1 my only option? (I don't have any status with One World airlines.)
Are there *any* special perks for FF passengers at the JFK AC lounge? (Will I at least get to sip some Krug?)
And upon arrival at SFO, is the AC in Terminal 1 my only option? (I don't have any status with One World airlines.)
Also the SFO lounge has VERY limited hours. Check it's open. The aa lounge at SFO wasn't even open for the redeyes including the jfk "premium" flight! Significantly shorter hours in the name of covid at SFO.
The jfk lounge when I was there not long ago was nicer then the terminal and great views but nothing really compared to the flagship amenities. I wouldn't expect too much tbh. it's cheap snacks and drinks. Service in the air was still pretty nice and the most normal to pre covid I've seen.
Last edited by lunchtime; Jun 27, 2021 at 10:56 pm
Jun 28, 2021, 12:16 am
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https://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInform...s/sfo-club.jsp
Jun 28, 2021, 12:23 am
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I heard that the FL lounge was basically converted into an AC and that some folks were able to use the Qantas First Class Lounge. According to Google Maps, they claim that the OW business lounge is opened during limited hours, but I haven't seen any threads or comments confirming this.
I keep reporting it closed then google ends up opening no idea why. lol
There was absolutely nothing to differentiate my experience as a FF passenger Lax-Mia last month. You would think they could make an area for F or why not even though FL is technically closed just have it be the F area. Even if the better food/buffet/alcohol isnt available. So to answer your question both outbound lax & returning from Mia there was nothing different at all. Showers at MIA were NOT open as someone incorrectly said on FT in this or maybe a diff thread. No Krug.