AA 2017-2018 Fleet Plan
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AA 2017-2018 Fleet Plan
The 27JAN17 investor update included AA's Fleet Plan for 2017.
* MAINLINE DELIVERIES (+58) *
- 20 Airbus A321: +8 Q1, +7 Q2, +5 Q3,
- 20 Boeing 737-800: +5 Q1, +5 Q2, +5 Q3, +5 Q4
- 5 Boeing 737 Max: +1 Q3, +4 Q4
- 3 Boeing 787-8: +2 Q1, +1 Q2
- 10 Boeing 787-9: +2 Q1, +2 Q2, +3 Q3, +3 Q4
* MAINLINE RETIREMENTS (-56) *
- 5 Airbus A320: -1 Q1, -2 Q2, -1 Q3, -1 Q4
- 17 Boeing 757-200: -12 Q3, -5 Q4
- 9 Boeing 767-300ER: -1 Q2, -4 Q3, -4 Q4
- 25 MD-80: -5 Q1, -20 Q3
* MAINLINE FLEET COUNT AT YE2017 *
- 319 = 125
- 320 = 46 (-5)
- 321 = 219 (+20)
- 332 = 15
- 333 = 9
- 738 = 304 (+20)
- 738M = 5 (+5)
- 752 = 34 (-17)
- 763 = 22 (-9)
- 772 = 47
- 77W = 20
- 788 = 20 (+3)
- 789 = 14 (+10)
- E90 = 20
- S80 = 32 (-25)
- Total = 931 (+1)
* REGIONAL DELIVERIES (+31) *
- 19 CRJ-700: +9 Q1, +7 Q2, +3 Q3
- 12 E-175: +3 Q1, +6 Q2, +3 Q3
* REGIONAL RETIREMENTS (-55) *
- 23 CRJ-200: -20 Q1, -2 Q2, -1 Q3
- 19 Dash 8-100: -8 Q1, -3 Q2, -4 Q3, -4 Q4
- 13 ERJ-140: -13 Q1
* REGIONAL FLEET COUNT AT YE2017 *
- CR2 = 97 (-23)
- CR7 = 98 (+19)
- CR9 = 118
- DH1 = 4 (-19)
- DH3 = 11
- E75 = 136 (+12)
- ERD = 0 (-13)
- ER4 = 118
- Total = 582 (-24)
* MAINLINE DELIVERIES (+58) *
- 20 Airbus A321: +8 Q1, +7 Q2, +5 Q3,
- 20 Boeing 737-800: +5 Q1, +5 Q2, +5 Q3, +5 Q4
- 5 Boeing 737 Max: +1 Q3, +4 Q4
- 3 Boeing 787-8: +2 Q1, +1 Q2
- 10 Boeing 787-9: +2 Q1, +2 Q2, +3 Q3, +3 Q4
* MAINLINE RETIREMENTS (-56) *
- 5 Airbus A320: -1 Q1, -2 Q2, -1 Q3, -1 Q4
- 17 Boeing 757-200: -12 Q3, -5 Q4
- 9 Boeing 767-300ER: -1 Q2, -4 Q3, -4 Q4
- 25 MD-80: -5 Q1, -20 Q3
* MAINLINE FLEET COUNT AT YE2017 *
- 319 = 125
- 320 = 46 (-5)
- 321 = 219 (+20)
- 332 = 15
- 333 = 9
- 738 = 304 (+20)
- 738M = 5 (+5)
- 752 = 34 (-17)
- 763 = 22 (-9)
- 772 = 47
- 77W = 20
- 788 = 20 (+3)
- 789 = 14 (+10)
- E90 = 20
- S80 = 32 (-25)
- Total = 931 (+1)
* REGIONAL DELIVERIES (+31) *
- 19 CRJ-700: +9 Q1, +7 Q2, +3 Q3
- 12 E-175: +3 Q1, +6 Q2, +3 Q3
* REGIONAL RETIREMENTS (-55) *
- 23 CRJ-200: -20 Q1, -2 Q2, -1 Q3
- 19 Dash 8-100: -8 Q1, -3 Q2, -4 Q3, -4 Q4
- 13 ERJ-140: -13 Q1
* REGIONAL FLEET COUNT AT YE2017 *
- CR2 = 97 (-23)
- CR7 = 98 (+19)
- CR9 = 118
- DH1 = 4 (-19)
- DH3 = 11
- E75 = 136 (+12)
- ERD = 0 (-13)
- ER4 = 118
- Total = 582 (-24)
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A couple of quick thoughts:
- That is a massive amount of 321s and 738s. Wow.
- The ERDs were supposed to retire several years back and yet they still hang around like zombies. I'm wondering if they really retire this time.
- The MD80s (a few of them at least) keep going into 2018. Did not expect that.
- That is a massive amount of 321s and 738s. Wow.
- The ERDs were supposed to retire several years back and yet they still hang around like zombies. I'm wondering if they really retire this time.
- The MD80s (a few of them at least) keep going into 2018. Did not expect that.
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It does put an interesting question on the table about what they'll do with the PHX-Hawaii and Northeast U.S.-Europe flights that currently use the 752s. Cutting the fleet in half without equally capable aircraft arriving is going to make things "interesting".
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Ive heard pilots say for years that if they needed the power compensate for a short runway or powering over a mountain, the 757s would be their plane of choice. That said, I too welcome the 321s, as I prefer the Airbus' over Boeings
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I have award tickets booked in March, JFK-LAX-HNL in J on 321Ts. Originally these were JFK-LAX-LIH, also on 321Ts, but then AA dropped the LAX-LIH flights from the schedule, and rebooked us in F on JFK-PHX-LIH... on 738s. No joke. I called and had the destination airport changed to HNL, then purchased HNL-LIH roundtrip tickets on Hawaiian, because 12+ hours in a 738 is not my idea of a good way to start (or end) a vacation
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I believe a large portion of the A321's are beater LUS, without seat power or MCE, now being deployed on LAA routes - particularly in and out of DFW.
Any indication was to if/when they will be upgraded? Parker gave some early lip service to MCE, his actions have fallen well short.
Any indication was to if/when they will be upgraded? Parker gave some early lip service to MCE, his actions have fallen well short.
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I have award tickets booked in March, JFK-LAX-HNL in J on 321Ts. Originally these were JFK-LAX-LIH, also on 321Ts, but then AA dropped the LAX-LIH flights from the schedule, and rebooked us in F on JFK-PHX-LIH... on 738s. No joke. I called and had the destination airport changed to HNL, then purchased HNL-LIH roundtrip tickets on Hawaiian, because 12+ hours in a 738 is not my idea of a good way to start (or end) a vacation
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I have award tickets booked in March, JFK-LAX-HNL in J on 321Ts. Originally these were JFK-LAX-LIH, also on 321Ts, but then AA dropped the LAX-LIH flights from the schedule, and rebooked us in F on JFK-PHX-LIH... on 738s. No joke. I called and had the destination airport changed to HNL, then purchased HNL-LIH roundtrip tickets on Hawaiian, because 12+ hours in a 738 is not my idea of a good way to start (or end) a vacation
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Has anyone figured out the net difference in overall seats?
With these net differences:
* Mainline +2
* Regional -24
I'm guessing there is a bit of a loss (provided those +2 mainline aren't something huge, but AA doesn't have any A380's coming
)
I know we've seen reductions or even pulling out of some smaller markets due to the loss of regional aircraft.
With these net differences:
* Mainline +2
* Regional -24
I'm guessing there is a bit of a loss (provided those +2 mainline aren't something huge, but AA doesn't have any A380's coming

I know we've seen reductions or even pulling out of some smaller markets due to the loss of regional aircraft.
#11
This year we take delivery of 40 current-generation Boeing 737 and Airbus A321 aircraft. They will arrive with seatback monitors and power at every seat
I agree with you that those planes are awful and I try to go out of my way not to fly them, but now that they are mixing the fleets it's a lot harder.
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The 321T is a completely different animal. The 321S is just another crappy domestic plane. Also, I hate aircraft that have to board through the L1 door. Much nicer having the F cabin aisle clear during boarding, also gives the FAs less of an excuse to not offer a PDB.
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Of the 321s being delivered, are they all in 321S/321H configuration? Any towards 321T?
And as an aside, how many 321T dedicated aircraft are there in the fleet?
And as an aside, how many 321T dedicated aircraft are there in the fleet?
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