Old Aug 28, 17, 9:07 pm
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The 27JAN17 investor update included AA's Fleet Plan for 2017. Changes have been made since that.

For 2017, the plan was:

* MAINLINE DELIVERIES (+58) *

- 20 Airbus A321: +8 Q1, +7 Q2, +5 Q3,
- 20 Boeing 737-800: +5 Q1, +5 Q2, +5 Q3, +5 Q4
- 5 Boeing 737 Max: +1 Q3, +4 Q4
- 3 Boeing 787-8: +2 Q1, +1 Q2
- 10 Boeing 787-9: +2 Q1, +2 Q2, +3 Q3, +3 Q4

* MAINLINE RETIREMENTS (-56) *

- 5 Airbus A320: -1 Q1, -2 Q2, -1 Q3, -1 Q4
- 17 Boeing 757-200: -12 Q3, -5 Q4
- 9 Boeing 767-300ER: -1 Q2, -4 Q3, -4 Q4
- 25 MD-80: -5 Q1, -20 Q3

* MAINLINE FLEET COUNT AT YE2017 * (projected)

- 319 = 125
- 320 = 46 (-5)
- 321 = 219 (+20)
- 332 = 15
- 333 = 9
- 738 = 304 (+20)
- 738M = 5 (+5)
- 752 = 34 (-17)
- 763 = 22 (-9)
- 772 = 47
- 77W = 20
- 788 = 20 (+3)
- 789 = 14 (+10)
- E90 = 20
- S80 = 32 (-25)
- Total = 931 (+1)


* REGIONAL DELIVERIES (+31) *

- 19 CRJ-700: +9 Q1, +7 Q2, +3 Q3
- 12 E-175: +3 Q1, +6 Q2, +3 Q3

* REGIONAL RETIREMENTS (-55) *

- 23 CRJ-200: -20 Q1, -2 Q2, -1 Q3
- 19 Dash 8-100: -8 Q1, -3 Q2, -4 Q3, -4 Q4
- 13 ERJ-140: -13 Q1

* REGIONAL FLEET COUNT AT YE2017 *

- CR2 = 97 (-23)
- CR7 = 98 (+19)
- CR9 = 118
- DH1 = 4 (-19)
- DH3 = 11
- E75 = 136 (+12)
- ERD = 0 (-13)
- ER4 = 118
- Total = 582 (-24)

For perspective, Hector Adler's full May 2016 missive:

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Hector Adler 
 Vice President Flight Service 
 
 May 13, 2016 
 
 Dear Colleagues, 
 
 We would like to tell you about some fleet changes American has planned 
 over the next several years. We are sharing this information now in order 
 to keep you apprised well in advance of those things that may affect your 
 decisions down the road. Now is the right time to make changes that will 
 help keep our flying in line with demand and put the right plane on the 
 right route. Over the next few years, American will be phasing out Embraer 
 E190s and Airbus A330-300s, and accelerating retirements of Boeing B767s. 
 
 Here are the planned changes for each fleet type: 
 
 Embraer E190 
 
 American plans to phase out our E190s by the end of 2019. Scott Kirby 
 has said since the merger that eventually we would either need to 
 increase this fleet or phase it out. The E190s have some expensive 
 maintenance scheduled in the near future, so it makes sense to phase 
 them out of the fleet in 2019. 
 
 Some key points on the E190: 
 
 • Today, these 20 aircraft primarily fly on the American Shuttle. The Shuttle 
 isn’t going away. It’s a great product for our customers, and we want to 
 keep their business. 
 • Because we are still several years away, we haven’t decided which aircraft 
 will fly the Shuttle. But we will maintain the mix of mainline/regional Shuttle 
 flying per the APA contract. 
 • The E190 is the only active fleet type in pay band Group I of the APA 
 contract. After retiring our E190s, new hire pilots will train to fly Group II 
 aircraft in the future. 
 
 Airbus A330-300 
 
 This is an aircraft that has served US Airways well. But we only have nine 
 of them and, again, smaller fleets can be pricey to maintain. Their Pratt & 
 Whitney PW4168 engine is unique in our fleet, adding maintenance 
 complexity and expense for such a small number of aircraft. With a 
 seat count of 291, it’s duplicative of B777-200ERs, which are being 
 retrofitted to 289 seats. 
 
 • A330-300 retirements begin in 2017 and will be done by the end of 2018. 
 
 • A330 pilots are qualified on both the -200 and -300. 
 
 • Flight attendants will be offered training in advance of the B777-200ER 
 being introduced in designated markets. 
 
 • No changes are planned for our 15 A330-200s. 
 
 Boeing B767 
 
 As you know, we have been retiring B767s. Our first B767s were delivered 
 in 1988 and at times, this type has been a challenge for our international 
 reliability. We have 40 today. Our previous plan had been to draw down 
 this fleet to 25 aircraft by the end of 2017. We will now retire an additional 
 eight aircraft in 2018, leaving us with the 17 youngest aircraft in this fleet, 
 which have all been retrofitted with fully lie-flat seats in Business Class. 
 
 Our fleet is experiencing transformational change. Fast. American is taking 
 delivery of a new mainline aircraft every seven days and by 2017, the 
 average age of our aircraft will be less than 10 years old. That’s the 
 youngest of the U.S. network carriers (and some others, too). In fact, 
 in 2015 we took delivery of more new planes than any airline in the world, 
 and there are more on the way. We have an order book that includes 
 new B737s, the B737 MAX, more A321s, A321neos and (on the widebody 
 side) B787-8s and B787-9s arriving this year and A350s next year. 
 
 Pilots qualified on these aircraft will have plenty of time to go through necessary 
 training and adjust to our new fleet lineup. Flight attendants are either cross-
 qualified or will be able to train on new aircraft in advance. 
 
 We’re making these changes at a great time for our airline and our fleet. 
 Customer demand and profits are both strong, and with so many new planes 
 on the way – both narrowbodies and widebodies – opportunities continue 
 to be plentiful. 
 
 Please reach out to your Chief Pilot, Flight Service Manager, Base Manager 
 or us with any questions. 
 
 Best regards, 
 Hector Adler, etc. etc.
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Old Feb 8, 17, 5:23 pm
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Originally Posted by AlwaysAisle
Yes, I think Boeing has entertained the idea of “next generation” 757 type of thing. But back then considering feedback from airlines, 757 order status, etc. and Boing decided on 737-900, terminated 757 program and not offer direct replacement of classic 757.
I think the A321 has filled the 757 replacement hole for many airlines, along with the extended capacity 739. Though neither are an exact match, they meet airline needs as 757s are phased out.
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No A350 this year? Or was that order canceled or exchanged for more A321?
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Unfortunately not so for the E140s. Still too many of these.
Give me an ERJ any day over a CR2. At least I can sit alone.
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No A350 this year? Or was that order canceled or exchanged for more A321?
Neither. The A350 deliveries were deferred.

https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/amer...50-deliveries/
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I would suggest retiring all 120 CR2 in Q1 2017. Only aircraft I will 100% not book on. Ever.


Originally Posted by sensei
The 27JAN17 investor update included AA's Fleet Plan for 2017.

* <snip>

* REGIONAL FLEET COUNT AT YE2017 *

- CR2 = 97 (-23)
- CR7 = 98 (+19)
- CR9 = 118
- DH1 = 4 (-19)
- DH3 = 11
- E75 = 136 (+12)
- ERD = 0 (-13)
- ER4 = 118
- Total = 582 (-24)

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Originally Posted by JDiver
The A321s and B737s remaining will have IFE, according to the AA announcement. The A320neo and 737-MAX for sure will not.
No. I was talking about the remaining deliveries on the final order of 738s and 321s. I did not get the impression from their press release that those final aircraft deliveries will not have seat back monitors on them. Only the yet-to-be-delivered 738Max and 321neo orders.
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Originally Posted by Fanjet
No. I was talking about the remaining deliveries on the final order of 738s and 321s. I did not get the impression from their press release that those final aircraft deliveries will not have seat back monitors on them. Only the yet-to-be-delivered 738Max and 321neo orders.
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The A321s and B737s remaining will have IFE, according to the AA announcement. The A320neo and 737-MAX for sure will not.
That's essentially what I said. The remaining non-neo and non-MAX will continue to be delivered as ordered; the new -neo and -MAX narrowbodies will only offer streaming audio-video.
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321 "G"

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I believe a large portion of the A321's are beater LUS, without seat power or MCE, now being deployed on LAA routes - particularly in and out of DFW.

Any indication was to if/when they will be upgraded? Parker gave some early lip service to MCE, his actions have fallen well short.
Yes, those are now coded as 321G on seatmaps (G as in Greyhound!)

& 737 MAX is really to be MIN with no inseat entertainment.
Sorry, I have an iPad but enjoy a well curated mix of movies & music on my flight. Until I can stream (without any interruption & not 40 bucks for NoGo Internet on a trans con), I'd like some IFE AA.
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Sad to see the 757s go. The more 737s, the better.
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Originally Posted by Wingtipflyer1
Yes, those are now coded as 321G on seatmaps (G as in Greyhound!)

& 737 MAX is really to be MIN with no inseat entertainment.
Sorry, I have an iPad but enjoy a well curated mix of movies & music on my flight. Until I can stream (without any interruption & not 40 bucks for NoGo Internet on a trans con), I'd like some IFE AA.
You can. Streaming on AA (or DL) doesn't require payment for wifi or even a continuous connection to ground - content is aboard a server on the aircraft. (An exception is live TV, of course.)

I prefer AVOD and a nice, properly mounted screen with its own power source, too, but let's get basic facts right.
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Sad to see the 757s go. The more 737s, the better.
Given they're refurbishing a subset of 757s to offer the same Business seats offered on the A321T, my guess is we may see 757s going to hot and high destinations such as LPB for a while yet.
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You can. Streaming on AA (or DL) doesn't require payment for wifi or even a continuous connection to ground - content is aboard a server on the aircraft. (An exception is live TV, of course.)

I prefer AVOD and a nice, properly mounted screen with its own power source, too, but let's get basic facts right.
Understood but on heavy internet user flights, reception is spotty at best most of the time. Last time I tried the movie selection was lame.

Combined the Internet fee & Movie streaming together in last post. Retract & now my "basic facts" are now within compliance of FT article 105836289100.

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Flew on a DL 752 PHL-LHR in Y about 2 years ago. Worlds better than the pitiful 757 that AA uses (Every seat had Power+IFE, at least on the LUS versions we get stuck with here at PHL). Hope The 321Neos come with power outlets. (PHL-LIS isn't fun without power or wifi)
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Sad to see the 757s go. The more 737s, the better.
I hope the former PMAA management can take over AA again very soon. They know how to run a quality airline. PMUS management like Doug Parker only knows how to run a ____ airline (can not think of any suitable words)
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Does the big drop in CR2 take into account Air Wisconsin drawing down AA operations? Who else operates the CR2 for AA besides Air Wisconsin?
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