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Basic Economy Fare as of 2017 (also AY, BA, IB), incl. elite benefits (Master thread)

Old Jan 18, 17, 10:12 pm
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What is Basic Economy?
Basic Economy is (generally) the lowest, "no-frills" Main Cabin (Economy) fare on American Airlines and their Atlantic Joint Business partners (British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair). Basic Economy fares on American Airlines book into the As the lowest fare, it has some special restrictions that other Main Cabin fares do not.

What are the Restrictions?
You can read American Airlines' web page summarizing Basic Economy for the exact details, but there are a few points that likely matter most to FlyerTalkers:
  1. Your first checked bag will cost money on a Basic Economy fare*.
  2. Your seat will be automatically assigned when you check in and unchangeable, unless you pay to change your seat. You may pay to reserve a seat any time after booking*.
  3. No elite upgrades to first class, or complimentary access to preferred seats (green on the seat map) or Main Cabin Extra (orange on the seat map)*.
  4. You will board last, in Group 9 for domestic flights or Group 8 for international flights*. On a full flight, this likely means you will have to gate check your carry-on bag (which is free)*.
  5. You will earn 50% EQMs per mile flown and 0.5 EQS per segment. You will earn full RDMs (based on fare flown) and EQDs.
  6. Changes are not permitted (worldwide from 01APR21).
  7. In IRROPS, Basic Economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will have to wait for the next American Airlines flight (or BA/IB/AY for INTL).

* exceptions apply for American Airlines elite-level frequent flyers as noted below.

Despite these restrictions, Basic Economy can be a good value in certain circumstances.

Are the seats or service any different?
Once you are on the airplane, the experience (seats / drinks / snacks) will be identical to regular Main Cabin.

How can I tell if I have a Basic Economy fare?
Your reservation on aa.com may say it. Basic Economy fares on American Airlines flights book into the B booking class, though Basic Economy fares on BA/IB/AY and their AA* codeshares can book into almost any revenue booking class.

I have an AA credit card, what does that get me?
Yes, if you have an American Airlines credit card that comes with preferred boarding or a free checked bag on domestic itineraries, you will receive those benefits. Additionally, if you have a Citi Executive card, you may use the Admirals Club as normal.

I have AA elite status, what does that get me?
You WILL get the following elite benefits when you buy a Basic Economy fare (note this is not an exhaustive list, basically everything not expressly forbidden is allowed):
  1. 1/2/3 checked bag fees waives, depending on status.
  2. Priority check-in / security / boarding.
  3. Lounge access, if applicable.
You WILL NOT receive the following elite benefits on a Basic Economy fare:
  1. No same-day standby or same-day confirmed flight changes, paid or otherwise.
Will I be seated with my child?
As it does today, Americans reservations system will check for families traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we follow for Main Cabin customers.
Families with children over 13 will have to pay for seat assignments to be seated with their children.

I am flying on a British Airways, Iberia, or Finnair airplane, is anything different?
If you do not have AA or oneworld elite status, the restrictions are quite similar and you should expect to pay for everything: paid checked bags, paid seat selection, and no changes / cancellations. Depending on available fare classes, you may have an opportunity to earn additional redeemable miles or elite qualifying dollars by booking a BA / IB / AY flight number instead of an AA flight number; check your options and the partner earning charts on AA for each respective airline (British Airways, Iberia, Finnair).

If you have status, buckle up, because it gets technical, though there are some opportunities to cherry pick benefits and save money. This has been already summarized in the counterpart to this thread on the British Airways forum.​​, so we will not reproduce it here. Note the following correspondences between status levels:
  • AA Gold - BA Bronze - oneworld Ruby
  • AA Platinum or Platinum Pro - BA Silver - oneworld Sapphire
  • AA Executive Platinum or Concierge Key - BA Gold - oneworld Emerald
Generally, there seem to be the following opportunities for arbitrage:
  • If you are a Platinum, Platinum Pro, or Executive Platinum elite, you can generally book Iberia or Finnair-operated Basic Economy flights and not notice any baggage or seating restrictions, as long as they were not marketed by BA.
  • If you do not care about your seat assignment, you can book AA-operated flights with an IB or AY flight number and still receive a checked bag if you are Platinum or higher. You may earn more or fewer RDMs, EQMs, and EQDs.
  • If you do not need to check a bag, you can book BA-operated flights with any flight number, and can choose your seat (7 days in advance for Gold, at booking for Platinum and higher, Exit Rows for EXP).
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Basic Economy Fare as of 2017 (also AY, BA, IB), incl. elite benefits (Master thread)

Old Sep 19, 23, 4:43 pm
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Originally Posted by fliesdelta
Greetings. Delta Diamond refugee here.

Looking at some basic economy fares for short-haul flights (think 60-90 minutes in the air) that are very attractive, and being Gold with AA right now it seems that AA's Basic Economy Fares are much better than Delta's. As I understand it, if I buy a BE fare I will earn RDMs and LPs at the same rate, and I can still pick preferred seats for free at time of booking. I have the co-branded Citi World Elite MC so between that and Gold status I think I'd get a free checked bag too but it's very rare that I take anything other than a carry-on so that's not much of an issue.

Am I correct in my assumptions about RDM/LP earning and access to preferred seats at booking as AA Gold?
No, and yes: BE fares now earn miles and LPs at a reduced rate:

"Basic Economy tickets issued on or after January 1, 2023, for travel starting March 1, 2023 will earn award miles at a rate of 2 miles per dollar in addition to Loyalty Points. Status members bonus percentages will apply to the base mileage rate of 2 miles per dollar on American and other select partner airlines."

AAdvantage Golds get to select "Preferred" seats at time of booking, but can select MCE (extra-leg-room) seats for free only starting at 24 hours before departure time.

AAdvantage Golds do get a free checked bag, even on BE fares.
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Old Sep 19, 23, 4:44 pm
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Originally Posted by fliesdelta
Greetings. Delta Diamond refugee here.

Looking at some basic economy fares for short-haul flights (think 60-90 minutes in the air) that are very attractive, and being Gold with AA right now it seems that AA's Basic Economy Fares are much better than Delta's. As I understand it, if I buy a BE fare I will earn RDMs and LPs at the same rate, and I can still pick preferred seats for free at time of booking. I have the co-branded Citi World Elite MC so between that and Gold status I think I'd get a free checked bag too but it's very rare that I take anything other than a carry-on so that's not much of an issue.

Am I correct in my assumptions about RDM/LP earning and access to preferred seats at booking as AA Gold?
Basic Economy − Travel information − American Airlines (aa.com)-
Just posting link since someone else explained it before I could finish post :O
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Old Sep 19, 23, 4:44 pm
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Originally Posted by fliesdelta
Greetings. Delta Diamond refugee here.

Looking at some basic economy fares for short-haul flights (think 60-90 minutes in the air) that are very attractive, and being Gold with AA right now it seems that AA's Basic Economy Fares are much better than Delta's. As I understand it, if I buy a BE fare I will earn RDMs and LPs at the same rate, and I can still pick preferred seats for free at time of booking. I have the co-branded Citi World Elite MC so between that and Gold status I think I'd get a free checked bag too but it's very rare that I take anything other than a carry-on so that's not much of an issue.

Am I correct in my assumptions about RDM/LP earning and access to preferred seats at booking as AA Gold?
close! Rdm/lps are earned at the base rate of 2/$, and then your gold multiplier would stack on.

preferred seat at booking, MCE at check in!
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Old Sep 19, 23, 4:57 pm
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Originally Posted by fliesdelta
Greetings. Delta Diamond refugee here.

Looking at some basic economy fares for short-haul flights (think 60-90 minutes in the air) that are very attractive, and being Gold with AA right now it seems that AA's Basic Economy Fares are much better than Delta's. As I understand it, if I buy a BE fare I will earn RDMs and LPs at the same rate, and I can still pick preferred seats for free at time of booking. I have the co-branded Citi World Elite MC so between that and Gold status I think I'd get a free checked bag too but it's very rare that I take anything other than a carry-on so that's not much of an issue.

Am I correct in my assumptions about RDM/LP earning and access to preferred seats at booking as AA Gold?
You get all your status and CC benefits on BE. You earn miles and LP at 40% of the normal rate (2 base miles / $ instead of 5). You get your normal status bonus on those miles and LP.

I usually fly BE when there are no cheap awards (rare but it happens occasionally).

I select MCE seats, check bags, and get upgraded a lot (as EXP though -- upgrades are probably unlikely as Gold and I believe you have to wait until T-24 for free MCE seats)

One concern is that in order to get added to the upgrade list, AA does some dark and dirty hacking behind the scenes. B class tickets cannot be upgraded so eventually your ticket is switched over to the underlying fare class of the BE fare, while somehow still maintaining all that change rules. Then you should be added to the upgrade list (you can't be added until that happens). I believe that they batch these all together and run it once a day, so you won't see "requested" under upgrades right away, but you should see it the next day. Occasionally this process fails and you have to call them to do it manually, which requires an agent who knows what is going on (or at least one who is willing to ask for help). This may prove to be a challenge if you are not EXP -- uninformed agents will tell you that you can't be upgraded. But usually it just works automatically.
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Old Sep 19, 23, 4:58 pm
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Thanks for the quick replies!

Supplemental question: if a Gold books a BE fare, what boarding group would apply?
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Old Sep 19, 23, 5:01 pm
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Originally Posted by fliesdelta
Thanks for the quick replies!

Supplemental question: if a Gold books a BE fare, what boarding group would apply?
Same as if you booked regular economy. You get all your status benefits.
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Old Sep 25, 23, 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Antarius
AA has a batch process that runs and converts the BE ticket into a non BE ticket with a designation on the back end for CK and EXP customers. It's the kludge of the century.

Only after this change happens, can you get upgrades requested etc.
Didn't read all posts in last 6 months, so sorry if duplicate question. I booked a roundtrip BE ticket to/from ORD in 3 months- AA app of course says 'not offered' for upgrades on all legs of the flight. I am PlatPro currently- I tried messaging AA within the AA app about this and asked about complimentary seat upgrades, the AA chat rep said no, because it is BE ticket, I do not get any status seat upgrades (even after linking them Basic Economy − Travel information − American Airlines (aa.com) ). I presume the wiki at top of this thread is out of date (or just unclear) about the above.
It sounds like only solution still for me, is to call Reservations or AAdvantage (PPro) line?

Update info-
I just got off phone with AA Platinum Pro line- they said, despite what is showing in the AA app, the complimentary seat upgrades are requested for me domestic BE tickets -> ORD and back in December. They offered to route me to web support as to why it is not showing up requested in the AA app

Update #2 9/26-
Looking in AA app today, my BE tickets/round trip flight as mentioned above, all show that complimentary upgrades are requested. Maybe just takes time for my status stuff to override the initial BE restrictions/display
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Old Oct 2, 23, 5:17 pm
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OW Sapphire for AA basic economy

Curious
I am OW sapphire with BA
If I book AA basic economy, can I use any OW status benefit?
Webpage says "complementary for AA advantage members" for example for choosing seats but mentions nothing for OW
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Old Oct 2, 23, 6:01 pm
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Originally Posted by caffe_sean1
Curious
I am OW sapphire with BA
If I book AA basic economy, can I use any OW status benefit?
Webpage says "complementary for AA advantage members" for example for choosing seats but mentions nothing for OW
"AAdvantage status member access

"Who gets complimentary Main Cabin Extra seats?

"AAdvantage Executive Platinum, AAdvantage Platinum Pro and AAdvantage Platinum members

"oneworld Sapphire and Emerald members with elite status on Alaska Airlines, British Airways, Iberia, Finnair, Qatar Airways or Japan Airlines

"All listed members are allowed complimentary access for up to 8 traveling companions on the same reservation."

Source:

https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...abin-extra.jsp

(No exception listed for Basic Economy fares.)

You also get to check two bags for free, and you get priority check-in, priority boarding, and Admirals Club or other oneworld lounge access, where available.
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