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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:12 pm
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What is Basic Economy?
Basic Economy is (generally) the lowest, "no-frills" Main Cabin (Economy) fare on American Airlines and their Atlantic Joint Business partners (British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair). Basic Economy fares on American Airlines book into the As the lowest fare, it has some special restrictions that other Main Cabin fares do not.

What are the Restrictions?
You can read American Airlines' web page summarizing Basic Economy for the exact details, but there are a few points that likely matter most to FlyerTalkers:
  1. Your first checked bag will cost money on a Basic Economy fare*.
  2. Your seat will be automatically assigned when you check in and unchangeable, unless you pay to change your seat. You may pay to reserve a seat any time after booking*.
  3. No elite upgrades to first class, or complimentary access to preferred seats (green on the seat map) or Main Cabin Extra (orange on the seat map)*.
  4. You will board last, in Group 9 for domestic flights or Group 8 for international flights*. On a full flight, this likely means you will have to gate check your carry-on bag (which is free)*.
  5. You will earn 50% EQMs per mile flown and 0.5 EQS per segment. You will earn full RDMs (based on fare flown) and EQDs.
  6. Changes are not permitted (worldwide from 01APR21).
  7. In IRROPS, Basic Economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will have to wait for the next American Airlines flight (or BA/IB/AY for INTL).

* exceptions apply for American Airlines elite-level frequent flyers as noted below.

Despite these restrictions, Basic Economy can be a good value in certain circumstances.

Are the seats or service any different?
Once you are on the airplane, the experience (seats / drinks / snacks) will be identical to regular Main Cabin.

How can I tell if I have a Basic Economy fare?
Your reservation on aa.com may say it. Basic Economy fares on American Airlines flights book into the B booking class, though Basic Economy fares on BA/IB/AY and their AA* codeshares can book into almost any revenue booking class.

I have an AA credit card, what does that get me?
Yes, if you have an American Airlines credit card that comes with preferred boarding or a free checked bag on domestic itineraries, you will receive those benefits. Additionally, if you have a Citi Executive card, you may use the Admirals Club as normal.

I have AA elite status, what does that get me?
You WILL get the following elite benefits when you buy a Basic Economy fare (note this is not an exhaustive list, basically everything not expressly forbidden is allowed):
  1. 1/2/3 checked bag fees waives, depending on status.
  2. Priority check-in / security / boarding.
  3. Lounge access, if applicable.
You WILL NOT receive the following elite benefits on a Basic Economy fare:
  1. No same-day standby or same-day confirmed flight changes, paid or otherwise.
Will I be seated with my child?
As it does today, American’s reservations system will check for families traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we follow for Main Cabin customers.
Families with children over 13 will have to pay for seat assignments to be seated with their children.

I am flying on a British Airways, Iberia, or Finnair airplane, is anything different?
If you do not have AA or oneworld elite status, the restrictions are quite similar and you should expect to pay for everything: paid checked bags, paid seat selection, and no changes / cancellations. Depending on available fare classes, you may have an opportunity to earn additional redeemable miles or elite qualifying dollars by booking a BA / IB / AY flight number instead of an AA flight number; check your options and the partner earning charts on AA for each respective airline (British Airways, Iberia, Finnair).

If you have status, buckle up, because it gets technical, though there are some opportunities to cherry pick benefits and save money. This has been already summarized in the counterpart to this thread on the British Airways forum.​​, so we will not reproduce it here. Note the following correspondences between status levels:
  • AA Gold - BA Bronze - oneworld Ruby
  • AA Platinum or Platinum Pro - BA Silver - oneworld Sapphire
  • AA Executive Platinum or Concierge Key - BA Gold - oneworld Emerald
Generally, there seem to be the following opportunities for arbitrage:
  • If you are a Platinum, Platinum Pro, or Executive Platinum elite, you can generally book Iberia or Finnair-operated Basic Economy flights and not notice any baggage or seating restrictions, as long as they were not marketed by BA.
  • If you do not care about your seat assignment, you can book AA-operated flights with an IB or AY flight number and still receive a checked bag if you are Platinum or higher. You may earn more or fewer RDMs, EQMs, and EQDs.
  • If you do not need to check a bag, you can book BA-operated flights with any flight number, and can choose your seat (7 days in advance for Gold, at booking for Platinum and higher, Exit Rows for EXP).
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:03 am
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Originally Posted by ty97
No one on a Basic Economy fare can bring a rollaboard/non-personal item on, even if one has status.
Wrong

https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ic-economy.jsp

"AAdvantage® membersElite status and eligible AAdvantage® credit cardmembersAAdvantage® elite status members and eligible Citi® / AAdvantage® or AAdvantage® AviatorTM Mastercard® cardmembers are exempt from certain restrictions.**You can ...
  • Take 1 item that fits under the seat (no larger than 18 x 14 x 8 in.)
  • Take 1 item free of charge to store in the overhead bin (no larger than 22 x 14 x 9 in.)
  • Keep your priority or preferred boarding privileges
  • Keep your checked bag benefits"
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:03 am
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
Yes, so it seems: "New carry-on sizers will be rolled out which will show personal item and carry-on size limits."
(not from press release)
Hopefully this will help move people on and off the plane quicker. It's amazing how quickly so many of the foreign carriers can board a single aisle plane when they have strict carry on polices.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:04 am
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Originally Posted by ty97
No one on a Basic Economy fare can bring a rollaboard/non-personal item on, even if one has status.
I'm not sure if that's correct (genuinely unsure, not rhetorically unsure! )
Training material says:
Elites and some credit card holders will be allowed a carry-on bag.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:09 am
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Originally Posted by LovePrunes
Wrong

https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ic-economy.jsp

"AAdvantage® membersElite status and eligible AAdvantage® credit cardmembersAAdvantage® elite status members and eligible Citi® / AAdvantage® or AAdvantage® AviatorTM Mastercard® cardmembers are exempt from certain restrictions.**You can ...
  • Take 1 item that fits under the seat (no larger than 18 x 14 x 8 in.)
  • Take 1 item free of charge to store in the overhead bin (no larger than 22 x 14 x 9 in.)
  • Keep your priority or preferred boarding privileges
  • Keep your checked bag benefits"
I somehow completely missed that. Makes sense (as how would you enforce it if you are letting them board with their elite group). Thanks.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:09 am
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Originally Posted by ty97
No one on a Basic Economy fare can bring a rollaboard/non-personal item on, even if one has status.
That is not how I read it.

Even so I don't expect to ever be on one of these fares.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:12 am
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Originally Posted by jordyn
Adding more groups is not going to make the boarding process take any longer.
I mistook the first sentence of the text I quoted (boarding starting 1hr prior to departure) as part of the actual news. Also, I've heard that the word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:14 am
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Originally Posted by rjw242
I mistook the first sentence of the text I quoted (boarding starting 1hr prior to departure) as part of the actual news. Also, I've heard that the word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary.
It was a very believable post that had me for a bit, until I got the unrealistic suggestion that PDBs might be a thing that exists.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:20 am
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Email today says Golds still get the carryon and 1 checked bag.

I posted this in the UA (or maybe DL) thread: the legacies are spinning this as a necessary product to compete with ULCC's. Therefore, if they actually do that and offer me a ULCC fare, I'll applaud it and occasionally may even buy it.

We have two routes out of MCI where DL has added Basic Economy to compete with Spirit (LAX and DTW). The fares have been near-ULCC-like to LAX ($70 one way), but not to DTW.

AA also flies MCI-LAX. It'll be interesting to see what happens.

If this is just a way to swap out today's Y fares with less product, then it makes me more likely to actually fly the ULCC, since at least with them I don't feel there's any trickery or degradation in the value I've always gotten. (Spirit's pretty honest about what flying them is going to be like!!)
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:22 am
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Originally Posted by AlwaysAisle
My impression is that currently boarding group and carry-on are not enforced at the gate more often than not. Unless gate agents are suddenly start enforcing those at a gate for a flight with basic economy, it is possible that there is good chance passengers on basic economy can get away with carry-on restriction? Or IT department can add a function so that when a passenger with basic economy board then gate scanner make one big noise to remind gate agent…
Yep:

Boarding pass scanner will return an error if a Group 9 customer attempts to board outside of their group.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:29 am
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The BE bag monitoring can be easily addressed... I can't imagine the BE/No Status/No CC passengers being more than about 15% of the average flight.

1)Let all other passengers board and get settled.
2)Close all overhead bins.
3)Then quickly move on the BE PASSENGERS.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:31 am
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
Yep:
Where's that latter quote from? I don't see it elsewhere in the thread. Can they make it return an error for all the other groups trying to board too early too? :-)
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Originally Posted by jordyn
Where's that latter quote from? I don't see it elsewhere in the thread. Can they make it return an error for all the other groups trying to board too early too? :-)


From training materials on it. BTW, the the exception that allows elites and premium credit card holders to take on a carry-on on these fares will -not- be automated at first, will require manual intervention. That should be fun.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by JonNYC


From training materials on it. BTW, the the exception that allows elites and premium credit card holders to take on a carry-on on these fares will -not- be automated at first, will require manual intervention. That should be fun.
But it also says that you retain your boarding group. So a Platinum on BE fare will still be group 3 (or 4, or something like that), NOT A GROUP 9. So they will only need to be vigilent on the Group 9 (which can't take any overhead).
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:46 am
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If my corporate booking system elects not to filter out these fares I'm going to be far less likely to select AA
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:48 am
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Originally Posted by morrisunc
Hopefully this will help move people on and off the plane quicker. It's amazing how quickly so many of the foreign carriers can board a single aisle plane when they have strict carry on polices.
AFAIK, most of these carriers with strict carry on policies also allow a free checked bag for Y pax (with the exception of thing's like BA's HBO fares - and BA is not terribly strict on carry-ons). So there's that.
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