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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:12 pm
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What is Basic Economy?
Basic Economy is (generally) the lowest, "no-frills" Main Cabin (Economy) fare on American Airlines and their Atlantic Joint Business partners (British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair). Basic Economy fares on American Airlines book into the As the lowest fare, it has some special restrictions that other Main Cabin fares do not.

What are the Restrictions?
You can read American Airlines' web page summarizing Basic Economy for the exact details, but there are a few points that likely matter most to FlyerTalkers:
  1. Your first checked bag will cost money on a Basic Economy fare*.
  2. Your seat will be automatically assigned when you check in and unchangeable, unless you pay to change your seat. You may pay to reserve a seat any time after booking*.
  3. No elite upgrades to first class, or complimentary access to preferred seats (green on the seat map) or Main Cabin Extra (orange on the seat map)*.
  4. You will board last, in Group 9 for domestic flights or Group 8 for international flights*. On a full flight, this likely means you will have to gate check your carry-on bag (which is free)*.
  5. You will earn 50% EQMs per mile flown and 0.5 EQS per segment. You will earn full RDMs (based on fare flown) and EQDs.
  6. Changes are not permitted (worldwide from 01APR21).
  7. In IRROPS, Basic Economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will have to wait for the next American Airlines flight (or BA/IB/AY for INTL).

* exceptions apply for American Airlines elite-level frequent flyers as noted below.

Despite these restrictions, Basic Economy can be a good value in certain circumstances.

Are the seats or service any different?
Once you are on the airplane, the experience (seats / drinks / snacks) will be identical to regular Main Cabin.

How can I tell if I have a Basic Economy fare?
Your reservation on aa.com may say it. Basic Economy fares on American Airlines flights book into the B booking class, though Basic Economy fares on BA/IB/AY and their AA* codeshares can book into almost any revenue booking class.

I have an AA credit card, what does that get me?
Yes, if you have an American Airlines credit card that comes with preferred boarding or a free checked bag on domestic itineraries, you will receive those benefits. Additionally, if you have a Citi Executive card, you may use the Admirals Club as normal.

I have AA elite status, what does that get me?
You WILL get the following elite benefits when you buy a Basic Economy fare (note this is not an exhaustive list, basically everything not expressly forbidden is allowed):
  1. 1/2/3 checked bag fees waives, depending on status.
  2. Priority check-in / security / boarding.
  3. Lounge access, if applicable.
You WILL NOT receive the following elite benefits on a Basic Economy fare:
  1. No same-day standby or same-day confirmed flight changes, paid or otherwise.
Will I be seated with my child?
As it does today, American’s reservations system will check for families traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we follow for Main Cabin customers.
Families with children over 13 will have to pay for seat assignments to be seated with their children.

I am flying on a British Airways, Iberia, or Finnair airplane, is anything different?
If you do not have AA or oneworld elite status, the restrictions are quite similar and you should expect to pay for everything: paid checked bags, paid seat selection, and no changes / cancellations. Depending on available fare classes, you may have an opportunity to earn additional redeemable miles or elite qualifying dollars by booking a BA / IB / AY flight number instead of an AA flight number; check your options and the partner earning charts on AA for each respective airline (British Airways, Iberia, Finnair).

If you have status, buckle up, because it gets technical, though there are some opportunities to cherry pick benefits and save money. This has been already summarized in the counterpart to this thread on the British Airways forum.​​, so we will not reproduce it here. Note the following correspondences between status levels:
  • AA Gold - BA Bronze - oneworld Ruby
  • AA Platinum or Platinum Pro - BA Silver - oneworld Sapphire
  • AA Executive Platinum or Concierge Key - BA Gold - oneworld Emerald
Generally, there seem to be the following opportunities for arbitrage:
  • If you are a Platinum, Platinum Pro, or Executive Platinum elite, you can generally book Iberia or Finnair-operated Basic Economy flights and not notice any baggage or seating restrictions, as long as they were not marketed by BA.
  • If you do not care about your seat assignment, you can book AA-operated flights with an IB or AY flight number and still receive a checked bag if you are Platinum or higher. You may earn more or fewer RDMs, EQMs, and EQDs.
  • If you do not need to check a bag, you can book BA-operated flights with any flight number, and can choose your seat (7 days in advance for Gold, at booking for Platinum and higher, Exit Rows for EXP).
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Old Dec 9, 2017, 4:44 am
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Originally Posted by IADCAflyer
Still wondering also if an elite FF could move to a MCE seat after being assigned a regular seat at T-24 hours.
My experience with this at DFW was: at the ticket counter (to check bag) the agent could charge me for a MCE seat, but could not even change my assigned middle seat to an aisle at about 90min before departure. At the gate: the agent COULD change my seat assignment to an aisle in a rearward row, but was unable to assign it to a MCE or even a 'preferred' econ seat, which even a non elite regular economy could.
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Old Dec 9, 2017, 4:56 am
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Originally Posted by ORD-TGU
I was booking a ticket today, selected BE for outbound since it was $200 cheaper.
On the inbound, no BE, so chose the best schedule.
A pop up message appeared that since no BE on inbound, entire ticket was going to be a normal ticket and not a BE.
This is news for me, no mixed tickets combining BE and Regular Economy.
How were you searching for the flight? On aa.com? What was the route?

For what ive seen, it will automatically switch you to a RE fare when one is not BE.

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Old Dec 10, 2017, 1:21 pm
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Methinks the algorithms need some tweaking. $355 difference between Basic Economy ($41) and Economy ($396) on ORD-DEN...

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Old Dec 10, 2017, 1:34 pm
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Originally Posted by javabytes
Methinks the algorithms need some tweaking. $355 difference between Basic Economy ($41) and Economy ($396) on ORD-DEN...
It's usually like this for last-minute purchases. AA is matching NK's price for BE, while UA is at $396. Another example:

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Old Dec 10, 2017, 4:05 pm
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Originally Posted by aacar
It's usually like this for last-minute purchases. AA is matching NK's price for BE, while UA is at $396. Another example:
It makes no sense. Either match NK's price or don't. But if you match NK's price, who's going to pay an extra $350 for a seat assignment?
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Old Dec 10, 2017, 4:31 pm
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Originally Posted by javabytes
It makes no sense. Either match NK's price or don't. But if you match NK's price, who's going to pay an extra $350 for a seat assignment?
Actually makes a lot of sense to me. Match nk price for leisure travelers without giving up top dollar from last minute business customers who don't have to buy be fares
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Old Dec 10, 2017, 4:50 pm
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Originally Posted by jay_dubya
Actually makes a lot of sense to me. Match nk price for leisure travelers without giving up top dollar from last minute business customers who don't have to buy be fares
I agree. It also might be worth mentioning that AA seems to offer these fares on flights with lighter loads, where seats would likely go unsold even after last-minute business purchases. BE fares aren't typically offered at peak times or if just a few seats are left.
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Old Dec 10, 2017, 8:38 pm
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Originally Posted by aacar
I agree. It also might be worth mentioning that AA seems to offer these fares on flights with lighter loads, where seats would likely go unsold even after last-minute business purchases. BE fares aren't typically offered at peak times or if just a few seats are left.
BE certainly opens up the possibility for more last-minute discounting without destroying yields (though opaque channels can still work), but I think in these cases they're usually matching a specific ULCC flight that departs around the same time.
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Old Dec 11, 2017, 10:12 am
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Originally Posted by aacar
I agree. It also might be worth mentioning that AA seems to offer these fares on flights with lighter loads, where seats would likely go unsold even after last-minute business purchases. BE fares aren't typically offered at peak times or if just a few seats are left.

I think this is actually something very good, offering dirt cheap fares with significant savings is good, even with BE limitations.
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Old Dec 11, 2017, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by Casswiki
How were you searching for the flight? On aa.com? What was the route?

For what ive seen, it will automatically switch you to a RE fare when one is not BE.
Yes, aa.com, ORD-PHX RT
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Earning from Basic AA into Avios at Iberia Plus

I had to double-take and make absolutely sure (i.e. from the "AA Error Reticketing" WIKI) from my own upcoming flight that Basic Economy issues as fare code "B." According to Iberia's rules, fare B earns full Avios and segment parameters at Iberia Plus.

Associated companies Description - Iberia
(once there, click on the chart popup)

This is great news since I plan on reclaiming my Sapphire status sometime in 2018 through IB Plus segment-running, flying AA segs (as Iberia Plus requires only 50 segs/yr to reach Oro-SPH level, with no native minimums).

Advantages of Iberia Plus - Iberia

(A copy will be posted to the other airline's forum. Feel free to consolidate, thanks)

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Old Dec 11, 2017, 2:58 pm
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AA fights that have not been booked with an IB code do not count for the 50 segments. They, of course, still give you Avios and Elite Points (EPs).

Take 50 flights according to the following terms and conditions:
  • Flights with an IB code operated by the Iberia Group (Iberia, Iberia Express, Air Nostrum), Vueling, airlines in the oneworld alliance or any partner airline in the Iberia Plus programme.
  • Flights with a VY code operated by Vueling, except Basic fare flights.
  • Flights operated and sold by British Airways.
Of these 50 flights, at least one must be with an IB code (operated by Iberia or another partner in the Iberia Plus programme) and have a fare that qualifies for Elite Points.
Even if you could get to Sapphire with 50 such flights, an EP run would probably be cheaper (and a TP run on BAEC even cheaper).
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Old Dec 11, 2017, 3:31 pm
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I saw BE in action last week ORD-LGA......two young guys (didn't seem like English was their first language) were trying to get on with rollerboards and the GA was asking who booked these tickets for you? They had to check their bags ultimately.....seems like a lot of extra work for the gate agents in general (not just this one eyewitness).
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Old Dec 12, 2017, 8:51 am
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Oneworld Emerald free baggage on basic economy fare?

As a BAEC Gold (OWE), do I get one free bag per the OWE rules, also on basic fares (lowest economy)? So from 0 to 1 bag as a benefit? This would be between YVR and LAS via PHX.
If so, is this for everyone on the ticket or only the card holder?
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3 bags per person on reservation
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