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AA Basic Economy Fare as of 2017 (and on AY, BA, IB) (Master thread)

AA Basic Economy Fare as of 2017 (and on AY, BA, IB) (Master thread)

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Basic Economy Fare Introduced Feb 2017

Transatlantic Basic Economy Across JBV (AA, AY, BA, IB) Began April 2018
(see below)


Link to aa.com page


Link to AA press release

Link to Gary Leff's blog article

Originally Posted by NYC Flyer View Post
Basic Economy always books into B, but it is what's referred to as a dual booking class fare. The fare is determined by availability of B class (which is generally, but not always unlimited if the route offers Basic Economy), as well as another booking class (N,Q,V, etc.). A fare basis of Q3UZNB3 represents a Basic Economy "branded" fare that requires both Q and B classes to be available for sale at the time the reservation is made. This is not dissimilar to an instant upgrade fare. Purchasing a ticket with a fare basis of KVEUPNIF allows the passenger to be booked in I class (first class on domestic flights), provided both K and I classes are available at the time the reservation is made...
NOTE: During OSO / IROPS, some were being inadvertently rebooked from Main Cabin / Economy into Basic Economy (losing better seating, upgrade options, etc.) See AA Errors Reticketing into Basic Economy Fare

Special notice
Customers flying Basic Economy are now allowed 1 free carry-on (in addition to a personal item) to all destinations.
As of July 2019, Basic Economy passengers can purchase seats up to seven days before flying. Link to JonNYC Tweet.
Link to archived FT speculation thread

AA offers Basic Economy fares in across its domestic network and on transatlantic routes.

The boarding pass displays a large, scarlet B on it.

"These no-frills tickets provide a simple and affordable way to experience American’s network, and provide customers the option to pay for the services they want." - AA

Restrictions

A ticket gets you a seat in Main Cabin, with restrictions:
  • 1 item that fits under the seat in front of you and one regular overhead bin carryon as of 5 Sep 2018 and onward.) (Practically, Boarding in the last group offers a high chance rollaboard will be gate-checked.)

  • Seats assigned at check-in

  • Fees to choose a specific seat

  • Not eligible for upgrades

  • No flight changes or refunds

  • Board in last group* (Group 9)

  • Earn 0.5 EQM, 0.5 EQS per mile / segment flown


Inflight experience - Snacks and inflight entertainment included.

Earn AAdvantage miles (but see below - 0.5 EQM, 0.5 EQS)

OSO / IROPS - Will be reaccommodated on AA, not other airlines

[QUOTE]Routes

Some Basic Economy fares became available for purchase on select routes for travel starting March 1 2017, some international and transatlantic flights.

"Here’s a look at what Basic Economy customers can expect:

In-flight experience – The same in-flight experience that all Main Cabin customers receive today, including free entertainment options, soft drinks, and snacks, and the same seats.

Seat assignments – Made automatically and only when customers check in. Paid seat assignments can be purchased 7 days before the flight.

Elite member access to Main Cabin Extra - Basic Economy fare tickets aren't eligible for complimentary/discounted access to Main Cabin Extra seats. (Link)

UpgradesNot permitted, regardless of elite status level.

Bags – One personal carry-on item that fits under the seat (such as a purse or small backpack) and one overhead bin bag may be brought on board effective 5 Sep 2018.

N.B. Elite customers and eligible AAdvantage® credit cardmembers will be allowed to bring one personal item, one rollaboard, and they maintain their current free checked bag allowance.

Boarding – Basic Economy customers will comprise the last boarding group and will be seated in the Main Cabin. Elite customers and eligible AAdvantage® credit cardmembers will continue to receive Priority or preferred boarding even when purchasing this fare.

Tickets – Non-refundable, non-changeable. Use it or lose it. No same-day flight change or same-day standby.

AAdvantage – Full AAdvantage miles and Elite Qualifying Dollars may be earned when purchasing these fares; however, only one-half Elite Qualifying Mile will be earned per mile flown, and one-half Elite Qualifying Segment per segment flown.

Multiple disclosures spell out the attributes of a Basic Economy ticket at the time of purchase on aa.com, and when utilizing the airline’s reservations phone centers or when booking through a travel agent or online travel site. In addition to clear disclosures at the time of purchase, Basic Economy customers will also receive reminders as their travel day gets closer, including at check-in kiosks at the airport.

“Our goal is to make sure that all customers have the opportunity to purchase a ticket on American that works for their specific needs,” said Robert Isom. “We will work hard to ensure transparency, provide clear explanations of these fares, and we look forward to continuing to offer a wide variety of services to our customers.'"

Also note that Gary Leff confirmed

Update: American has now confirmed to me that basic economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will be at the bottom of the list for automatic re-accommodation (on AA) as well. However basic economy “B” inventory will not need to be available in order to be moved onto another flight.


Q&A

Is this a new fare discount?

No; it is a new lowest fare. These fares will be lower than regular Main Cabin fares in the same way that discounted Main Cabin fares are lower than fully flexible Y fares.


How many Basic Economy seats will be available on each flight?

The number will vary depending on the same factors that affect pricing generally. Revenue management, as usual.


How many markets will have Basic Economy fares available?

AA introduced Basic Economy in ten markets and expanded in to many domestic, international (including transatlantic) Flights.


Is the on-board experience in Basic Economy different?

“Once on the plane, Basic Economy customers have the same in-flight experience as anyone else in Main Cabin, including complimentary soft drinks and a snack. They sit in regular Main Cabin seats. American has no plans to alter its seats or the interior of its aircraft for Basic Economy.”


Will families that include young children be seated together?

“As it does today, American’s reservations system will check for families
traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and
attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we
follow for Main Cabin customers.”


TRANSATLANTIC JBV BASIC ECONOMY APPLICATION (April 2018)

Now: Basic Economy on select flights to Europe
AA News, Thursday, March 01, 2018, 8:30 AM <link>

“Starting in April (2018), American will introduce Basic Economy on some trans-Atlantic flights, giving customers a new option for our lowest fares.

We're making this addition together with our Atlantic Joint Business partners British Airways, Iberia and Finnair.

We're following the same playbook in this latest expansion as we did for the initial rollout of Basic Economy. That includes training that began this week for Airports and Reservations team members and making it available in a limited number of markets first to make sure we get it right.

In general, most options and restrictions for trans-Atlantic Basic Economy are similar to those for domestic Basic Economy or for short-haul international Basic Economy such as flights to Canada, although there are a few differences.

A closer look at domestic and trans-Atlantic Basic Economy

Link to download pdf

Boarding: Trans-Atlantic Basic Economy customers, including those originating with a domestic leg, will board in Group 8. Elite customers and eligible AAdvantage® credit card members will continue to receive Priority or preferred boarding even when purchasing this fare. (British Airways and American only, on American this will mean Group 8, and this doesn’t apply to Finnair or Iberia.)

Carry-on Bags: The carry-on bag allowance for all international Main Cabin fares, including trans-Atlantic Basic Economy, is one personal item and one larger carry-on. This is unchanged from international Main Cabin fares today.

Checked Bags: Regular Main Cabin fares will continue to include one checked bag for free. A new fee will apply for the first checked bag on trans-Atlantic Basic Economy. (But AA Elites retain their respective free checked baggage allowances.)

Connections: Customers flying on a domestic Basic Economy leg connecting to a trans-Atlantic Basic Economy ticket will travel under the rules of the international ticket, including the carry-on bag allowance.

Inflight experience: Regardless of whether they are traveling on a Basic Economy fare or a regular Main Cabin fare, all Main Cabin customers will have the same experience, including the same free entertainment, soft drinks, snacks and meals offered today.

Seat assignments: Free seat assignments are made automatically when customers check in. Customers flying trans-Atlantic Basic Economy can purchase a seat assignment at any time.

Tickets: Non-refundable. No same-day flight change or same-day standby. However, the tickets are changeable (for a fee), which is different from domestic Basic Economy where changes are not allowed at all.

Upgrades: Not permitted, regardless of elite status level.”
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Old Aug 30, 19, 1:33 am
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When AA load flights 335 days out they usually only load high booking classes only first. Wait for a few days and check again.
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Old Aug 30, 19, 1:35 am
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Originally Posted by Andriyko View Post
When AA load flights 335 days out they usually only load high booking classes only first. Wait for a few days and check again.
Thanks!
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Old Aug 30, 19, 10:14 am
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If you're trying to book an award ticket, it isn't specifically Basic economy you need to find, partner awards are based on a "sAAver award" being available.

(If "book with Avios" means something other than awards, disregard)
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Old Aug 30, 19, 10:23 am
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Originally Posted by Gig103 View Post
If you're trying to book an award ticket, it isn't specifically Basic economy you need to find, partner awards are based on a "sAAver award" being available.
I think the OP want to either book with Avios if a MileSAAver award becomes available, or purchase a Basic Economy ticket with cash if a MileSAAver award doesn't become available.

Either way, the answer is patience! The OP just needs to remember if neither option becomes available then he/she needs to book no later than 21 days from date of departure to get the lowest possible Main Cabin fare. After that point, the price of regular Economy fares will begin to rise.
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Old Aug 31, 19, 6:22 am
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I managed to get my reward flights booked today. Thanks everyone for the responses.

I mentioned Basic Economy, because I would have been purchasing those tickets if there were no reward flights available.
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Old Aug 31, 19, 9:36 pm
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I found out this weekend that BE's "no changes allowed" doesn't necessarily apply to travel alert situations. CLT-MIA in BE was changed from Monday to today through a phone call to AA. It then took an AC AAngel to get it done, but we switched today to an earlier flight (it helped that it was half-empty, understandably).
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Old Sep 3, 19, 6:41 pm
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Originally Posted by taxatty56 View Post
I found out this weekend that BE's "no changes allowed" doesn't necessarily apply to travel alert situations. CLT-MIA in BE was changed from Monday to today through a phone call to AA. It then took an AC AAngel to get it done, but we switched today to an earlier flight (it helped that it was half-empty, understandably).
BE, and any other type of ticket, are not subject to the stringent change restrictions when a flight in your itinerary is canceled or there are IRROPS due to severe weather events.
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Old Sep 6, 19, 7:50 pm
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As a Gold member if I book Basic Economy do I get to choose seats from Main Cabin?

I'm reserving flight DTW-FAY. In the past I remember being able to choose a more comfortable position with my Gold status. I don't know when Basic Economy began. Am I still able to get a more premium seat location?

Thank you for any help.
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Old Sep 6, 19, 8:14 pm
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Originally Posted by gardengirl View Post
I'm reserving flight DTW-FAY. In the past I remember being able to choose a more comfortable position with my Gold status. I don't know when Basic Economy began. Am I still able to get a more premium seat location?

Thank you for any help.
I've moved your question to the master thread on basic economy.

Long story short there is no advanced seating on basic economy fares regardless of status.

They make this very clear when booking on AA.com
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Old Sep 6, 19, 8:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Long Train Runnin View Post
I've moved your question to the master thread on basic economy.

Long story short there is no advanced seating on basic economy fares regardless of status.

They make this very clear when booking on AA.com
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Thank you for moving. I can't imagine knowing all the current threads so as to be able to file questions in the right spot.

I was looking at a webpage "Upgraded Points". Trying to figure out the implications to this:

"As a Gold member, you don’t get any discount to purchase Main Cabin Extra seats, but you do have free seat selection within 24 hours of the flight. During this time, watch closely for last-minute upgrades of higher elites that may free up prime Main Cabin Extra seats.

You should also monitor for other elites doing same-day changes onto other flights, or those shifting flights due to irregular operations, so you can snag these seats last-minute. Gold members can select preferred seats and Main Cabin Extra seats for themselves and 8 companions."

I have booked Main Cabin. When I went back to the booking page I did read the note for the * saying the restrictions apply to elites. I was able to get preferred seats. We like to sit in aisles seats across from each other and I was able to get those. Some of the preferred seats were marked by an *. I couldn't see that they were necessarily better than the ones I chose. What am I missing?

I'm editing to say I think I understand the above quote. It means that within 24 hrs. of the flight the Extra seats that would have cost more will now be complimentary to me if they become available because higher elites are moving up or on to other flights. Right?
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Old Sep 7, 19, 2:19 pm
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I could be wrong, but it's my understanding that booking a basic econ fare, all bets are off regarding making seat selections. period. No elite perks are to be expected.
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Old Sep 7, 19, 2:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Zacnlinc View Post
I could be wrong, but it's my understanding that booking a basic econ fare, all bets are off regarding making seat selections. period. No elite perks are to be expected.
True unless you can get a GA to put you in a better seat without extra payment.
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Old Oct 7, 19, 3:30 am
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Dear all,

Wife and myself have a C flight with Iberia from LAX... as we changed our plans we will be in Texas instead of California before taking our flight back to Europe. Due to the AA - Oneworld Protection i'm thinking to fly with AA instead of UA (*G) from HOU to LAX.

As Hyatt Diamond i enrolled for the AA Status challange which means i'm at the time of the flight AA Platinum. As the flight is quite short and i don't see any real benefits of the status i'm thinking to book Basic Economy... if i'm correct my wife (no status) and myself (same booking) will have each 2 bags for free - now i saw the follwoing on AA website:

Checked bag fee waived
The checked bag fees will be waived for all elite members and guests traveling on the same reservation (excluding group reservations) for travel in the Main Cabin on flights marketed and operated by American Airlines or marketed by American or American Eagle®.
The number of waived bag fees depends on your highest status level at time of ticketing or check-in. If your status level is:
Higher at ticketing than at check-in, show your ticket receipt to the airport agent
Lower at ticketing than at check-in, current benefits will automatically apply

Oversize or overweight bags may incur additional fees.

As nothing is mentioned about BE, do we have 4 bags in total for free?

We are not that much interested in the miles/points and sitting together is not a must, upgrades don't apply as flight more than 500 miles (MCE is no real advantage in our vioew)... are we missing an important point why we should book MC instead of BE?

BTW: Flight will be on Saturday midday - so i expect that the plane won't be that crowded...

THX
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Old Oct 7, 19, 11:02 am
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When I fly as gold I get one checked bag, so if your status will be platinum at the time of travel, I believe you will have no problem getting 4 checked bags.
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Old Oct 8, 19, 3:20 am
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Originally Posted by SamirD View Post
When I fly as gold I get one checked bag, so if your status will be platinum at the time of travel, I believe you will have no problem getting 4 checked bags.
THX - have you been also flying with several person in the reservation?
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