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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:12 pm
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What is Basic Economy?
Basic Economy is (generally) the lowest, "no-frills" Main Cabin (Economy) fare on American Airlines and their Atlantic Joint Business partners (British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair). Basic Economy fares on American Airlines book into the As the lowest fare, it has some special restrictions that other Main Cabin fares do not.

What are the Restrictions?
You can read American Airlines' web page summarizing Basic Economy for the exact details, but there are a few points that likely matter most to FlyerTalkers:
  1. Your first checked bag will cost money on a Basic Economy fare*.
  2. Your seat will be automatically assigned when you check in and unchangeable, unless you pay to change your seat. You may pay to reserve a seat any time after booking*.
  3. No elite upgrades to first class, or complimentary access to preferred seats (green on the seat map) or Main Cabin Extra (orange on the seat map)*.
  4. You will board last, in Group 9 for domestic flights or Group 8 for international flights*. On a full flight, this likely means you will have to gate check your carry-on bag (which is free)*.
  5. You will earn 50% EQMs per mile flown and 0.5 EQS per segment. You will earn full RDMs (based on fare flown) and EQDs.
  6. Changes are not permitted (worldwide from 01APR21).
  7. In IRROPS, Basic Economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will have to wait for the next American Airlines flight (or BA/IB/AY for INTL).

* exceptions apply for American Airlines elite-level frequent flyers as noted below.

Despite these restrictions, Basic Economy can be a good value in certain circumstances.

Are the seats or service any different?
Once you are on the airplane, the experience (seats / drinks / snacks) will be identical to regular Main Cabin.

How can I tell if I have a Basic Economy fare?
Your reservation on aa.com may say it. Basic Economy fares on American Airlines flights book into the B booking class, though Basic Economy fares on BA/IB/AY and their AA* codeshares can book into almost any revenue booking class.

I have an AA credit card, what does that get me?
Yes, if you have an American Airlines credit card that comes with preferred boarding or a free checked bag on domestic itineraries, you will receive those benefits. Additionally, if you have a Citi Executive card, you may use the Admirals Club as normal.

I have AA elite status, what does that get me?
You WILL get the following elite benefits when you buy a Basic Economy fare (note this is not an exhaustive list, basically everything not expressly forbidden is allowed):
  1. 1/2/3 checked bag fees waives, depending on status.
  2. Priority check-in / security / boarding.
  3. Lounge access, if applicable.
You WILL NOT receive the following elite benefits on a Basic Economy fare:
  1. No same-day standby or same-day confirmed flight changes, paid or otherwise.
Will I be seated with my child?
As it does today, American’s reservations system will check for families traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we follow for Main Cabin customers.
Families with children over 13 will have to pay for seat assignments to be seated with their children.

I am flying on a British Airways, Iberia, or Finnair airplane, is anything different?
If you do not have AA or oneworld elite status, the restrictions are quite similar and you should expect to pay for everything: paid checked bags, paid seat selection, and no changes / cancellations. Depending on available fare classes, you may have an opportunity to earn additional redeemable miles or elite qualifying dollars by booking a BA / IB / AY flight number instead of an AA flight number; check your options and the partner earning charts on AA for each respective airline (British Airways, Iberia, Finnair).

If you have status, buckle up, because it gets technical, though there are some opportunities to cherry pick benefits and save money. This has been already summarized in the counterpart to this thread on the British Airways forum.​​, so we will not reproduce it here. Note the following correspondences between status levels:
  • AA Gold - BA Bronze - oneworld Ruby
  • AA Platinum or Platinum Pro - BA Silver - oneworld Sapphire
  • AA Executive Platinum or Concierge Key - BA Gold - oneworld Emerald
Generally, there seem to be the following opportunities for arbitrage:
  • If you are a Platinum, Platinum Pro, or Executive Platinum elite, you can generally book Iberia or Finnair-operated Basic Economy flights and not notice any baggage or seating restrictions, as long as they were not marketed by BA.
  • If you do not care about your seat assignment, you can book AA-operated flights with an IB or AY flight number and still receive a checked bag if you are Platinum or higher. You may earn more or fewer RDMs, EQMs, and EQDs.
  • If you do not need to check a bag, you can book BA-operated flights with any flight number, and can choose your seat (7 days in advance for Gold, at booking for Platinum and higher, Exit Rows for EXP).
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 4:10 pm
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AA does status challenge.

Here's the thread with more details:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...ge-2017-a.html
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 4:13 pm
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Get a credit card[apparently not an option for TATL]. Or don't book basic economy. If you only need to check 3 bags you could book 2 basic economy + 3 regular economy tickets.

I mean, this is kind of the point of basic economy. If it were trivial to get out of the extra fees then there would be no incentive to buy up to regular economy.
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 4:52 pm
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When are you planning on travelling? If in the next couple months, apply and great an AAdvantage credit card - pronto.
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 4:55 pm
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Originally Posted by wetrat0
Get a credit card.
Even if the OP had a CC, it would only get him or her free baggage domestically. The OP is going to Barcelona.
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 4:56 pm
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Getting a credit card won't work -- the AA credit cards only give checked bags on domestic itineraries and LAX-BCN is transatlantic.

People are going to start figuring out the AA credit cards are worse than the DL/UA credit cards in that regard if transatlantic BE takes off.
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 5:01 pm
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Thanks folks for all replies.. Looks like CC is not an option as this is a transatlantic. Looks like I would have to shell out $60 each way.. The price diff between basic economy and regular is very high ..
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 5:05 pm
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Originally Posted by MNSWEEps
Thanks folks for all replies.. Looks like CC is not an option as this is a transatlantic. Looks like I would have to shell out $60 each way.. The price diff between basic economy and regular is very high ..
What dates are you looking at? I usually see a spread of about $90 between transatlantic BE/regular economy.
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 5:07 pm
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Thanks folks for all replies.. Looks like CC is not an option as this is a transatlantic. Looks like I would have to shell out $60 each way.. The price diff between basic economy and regular is very high ..
This is not AA specific, but why not try and reduce the number of checked bags by maximizing your party’s carry-on allowance. Have each member of your group take on the largest carry-on allowed, as full as possible. That may reduce the number of bags that need to be checked...?
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 5:10 pm
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Originally Posted by mcrw00


This is not AA specific, but why not try and reduce the number of checked bags by maximizing your party’s carry-on allowance. Have each member of your group take on the largest carry-on allowed, as full as possible. That may reduce the number of bags that need to be checked...?
Depending on what you're planning on doing in BCN, you could combine this strategy with buying more clothing or whatever you were planning to pack once you get there, it might come out to be less expensive.

You could also look into shipping your stuff to where you're staying.
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 5:31 pm
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Originally Posted by MNSWEEps
I don't have a status on AA and don't have any AA affiliated credit card... I am planning to book 5 basic economy tickets from LAX - BCN return and planning to check in 3 bags.. whats the best strategy apart from paying $60 for each bag?
When evaluating how much cheaper BE is, keep in mind that it's $60/bag each way. I don't know your dates but on a sample flight in September I see a $100 difference, BE and MC, which is less than the bag fees. Also check what fewer than 5 passengers costs on that route, the website will always sell the lowest fare bucket with all your seats. Booking two reservations (2 and 3) might be cheaper than a single reservation of 5. Also by doing this you could buy three main cabin and two basic to cover your baggage needs.

Finally, without status, is there a reason you are sold on AA for the route? Norwegian Air Shuttle has flights as low as $700 r/t out of LAX (September), and the "LowFare+" which comes with a seat, checked bag, and meal, is $879 r/t.
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 5:53 pm
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That’s why it’s called Basic Economy! @:-)
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 6:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Gig103
When evaluating how much cheaper BE is, keep in mind that it's $60/bag each way. I don't know your dates but on a sample flight in September I see a $100 difference, BE and MC, which is less than the bag fees. Also check what fewer than 5 passengers costs on that route, the website will always sell the lowest fare bucket with all your seats. Booking two reservations (2 and 3) might be cheaper than a single reservation of 5. Also by doing this you could buy three main cabin and two basic to cover your baggage needs.

Finally, without status, is there a reason you are sold on AA for the route? Norwegian Air Shuttle has flights as low as $700 r/t out of LAX (September), and the "LowFare+" which comes with a seat, checked bag, and meal, is $879 r/t.
I have over $1300 in AA gift cards from all the credit card reimbursements which I want to burn. I am looking for Mar (last week) to April 2019 (first weekend)... around 8 nights in BCN.
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 6:13 pm
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Flights to / from Europe

In addition to your personal item, you can bring a carry-on that fits in overhead bins; no larger than 22 x 14 x 9 inches (56 x 36 x 23 cm).
For BE, looks like all 5 of us can carry-on a bag ....will try to stuff our clothes in and there by not pay for any checked bag :-)
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 7:49 pm
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Fly an airline that treats people as humans instead of money bags to pay for DUI Dougie's alcohol?
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Old Jul 4, 2018, 8:09 pm
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Fly an airline that treats people as humans instead of money bags to pay for DUI Dougie's alcohol?
Any suggestions?
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