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honghong322 Feb 25, 2018 12:23 pm

Looking at random dates for BOS-JFK. For 1 passenger, I see BE. However when I select 2 passengers, BE is no longer an option.

ijgordon Feb 28, 2018 7:24 pm


Originally Posted by McSam18 (Post 29450457)
I know that BE tickets are nonrefundable, non-changeable, etc. But, does that include up-fares? Work might book into BE for cost reasons, but I'd rather not and would personally rather upfare to avoid it.

In theory, no, no changes. Would kind of defeat the purpose for AA if you could just pay the fare difference and then have a changeable fare. I think if you call to upfare within 24 hours you'll have better luck, but generally I'd guess that YMMV.
That said, most employers, particularly those using corporate travel agents/platforms, have blocked BE fares from even showing, because of the non-changeability.

JDiver Mar 1, 2018 10:35 am

AA’s transatlantic Joint Business Venture Partners AY, BA, IB are implementing AA Basic Economy restrictions on their airlines in conjunction with AA, at least in large part, in April 2018. This will prevent AA flyers from taking up the cheapest fares on Y, BA and IB to avoid some of the AA Basic Economy restrictions on baggage, changes, miles earning, etc. The AA information and links have been added to the Wikipost at the top of the page.

American and Partners Imposing Basic Economy Restrictions on Cheapest Transatlantic Fares Next Month by Gary Leff on March 1, 2018 <link>

In part:


American Airlines and its transatlantic joint venture partners British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair are rolling out restrictive basic economy fares for travel across the Pond. This launches in April.
  • No refunds or same day flight changes or standby (same day flight changes apply only to certain Heathrow flights today). In American’s version at least these tickets will be changeable for a fee.

  • No free advance seat assignments

  • No free checked bags

  • No upgrades (so American’s eVIP upgrades given to Executive Platinums, ConciergeKey members, and million milers will have minimum fare class restrictions for international travel for the first time)

  • Board last (British Airways and American only, on American this will mean Group 8, and this doesn’t apply to Finnair or Iberia)

  • Only 50% of elite qualifying miles and segments when crediting to AAdvantage (no change for other programs)


mvoight Mar 1, 2018 3:18 pm


Originally Posted by Yllanes (Post 29399304)
Just because I haven't seen it answered before: as a OW Sapphire flying LAX-SFO on Basic Economy last Sunday I got

1) Group 3 boarding (and, therefore, no restrictions on hand luggage)
2) Access to the LAX Flagship Lounge

So, it's even better to be a non-AA elite, because AA members won't get 2).

But, #2 has nothing to do with Basic Economy
AA elites wouldn't get lounge access for this route even on a full F ticket

UAPremierExec Mar 1, 2018 5:25 pm

Starting in April, we will introduce Basic Economy on some trans-Atlantic flights, giving customers a new option for our lowest fares.

We're making this addition together with our Atlantic Joint Business partners British Airways, Iberia and Finnair.

We're following the same playbook in this latest expansion as we did for the initial rollout of Basic Economy. That includes training that began this week for Airports and Reservations team members and making it available in a limited number of markets first to make sure we get it right.

In general, most options and restrictions for trans-Atlantic Basic Economy are similar to those for domestic Basic Economy or for short-haul international Basic Economy such as flights to Canada, although there are a few differences.
A closer look at domestic and trans-Atlantic Basic Economy
https://newjetnet.aa.com/servlet/Jiv...Info-Sheet.png
Click to enlarge imageWe'll have more to share about trans-Atlantic Basic Economy when it launches in April. For now, here's a preview of how it will work:

Boarding - Trans-Atlantic Basic Economy customers, including those originating with a domestic leg, will board in Group 8. Elite customers and eligible AAdvantage® credit card members will continue to receive Priority or preferred boarding even when purchasing this fare.

Carry-on Bags - The carry-on bag allowance for all international Main Cabin fares, including trans-Atlantic Basic Economy, is one personal item and one larger carry-on. This is unchanged from international Main Cabin fares today.

Checked Bags - Regular Main Cabin fares will continue to include one checked bag for free. A new fee will apply for the first checked bag on trans-Atlantic Basic Economy.

Connections - Customers flying on a domestic Basic Economy leg connecting to a trans-Atlantic Basic Economy ticket will travel under the rules of the international ticket, including the carry-on bag allowance.

Inflight experience - Regardless of whether they are traveling on a Basic Economy fare or a regular Main Cabin fare, all Main Cabin customers will have the same experience, including the same free entertainment, soft drinks, snacks and meals offered today.

Seat assignments - Free seat assignments are made automatically when customers check in. Customers flying trans-Atlantic Basic Economy can purchase a seat assignment at any time.

Tickets - Non-refundable. No same-day flight change or same-day standby. However, the tickets are changeable (for a fee), which is different from domestic Basic Economy where changes are not allowed at all.

Upgrades - Not permitted, regardless of elite status level.

McSam18 Mar 1, 2018 7:07 pm


Originally Posted by ijgordon (Post 29471249)
In theory, no, no changes. Would kind of defeat the purpose for AA if you could just pay the fare difference and then have a changeable fare. I think if you call to upfare within 24 hours you'll have better luck, but generally I'd guess that YMMV.
That said, most employers, particularly those using corporate travel agents/platforms, have blocked BE fares from even showing, because of the non-changeability.

I figured that was the case, but I wasn’t sure (and as you put, hoping I don’t have to find out). I get that they want to protect the product, especially in instances when upfaring can be done for dollars. It just seems short sighted to not allow it at all, when in my case, it would result in the loss of significant additional monies.

wahooflyer Mar 1, 2018 7:52 pm

I’m flying on my first Basic Economy ticket right now from DFW-BWI. $87 for a last minute one way vs. $332 for Main Cabin. With AA Gold status, it hasn’t felt that different than a regular coach fare, aside from the inability to upgrade (not that I would have cleared the upgrade list anyway with my status!)

I declined to pay for an advance seat assignment and was given 25E when I checked in on the AA app last night. However, an Admirals Club agent changed me to an exit row aisle at D-45 when I asked, no charge. I imagine the seat policy is a YMMV issue, but I was pleased. Exit row would have cost me $50 on this fare if I had picked it at check in.

SkyTeam777 Mar 2, 2018 8:43 am

So this brings the end to using SWUs on cheap fares overseas as I’m sure the difference between basic economy and the cheapest economy fare class will be huge.

It’s also a horrible issue for people whose companies make them book the cheapest fare which is often in basic economy. I have dealt with several issues just this past month with trying to explain to travel agents about what basic economy is and to not book me on it; they always think I’m asking for business even though I’m just saying do not book me in basic economy. Airlines are not doing biz travelers any favors; this will just send them to the lower fare carriers and give go on loyalty programs altogether.

econometrics Mar 2, 2018 8:52 am


Originally Posted by SkyTeam777 (Post 29476855)
So this brings the end to using SWUs on cheap fares overseas as I’m sure the difference between basic economy and the cheapest economy fare class will be huge.

Yeah, this just narrowed one of the biggest gaps between AA and UA's 100K benefits. I had always disliked the idea of having to buy higher economy fares to use a GPU, and that was one of the biggest factors that kept me with AA when all the cuts were made a couple years ago.

Not that I will jump ship now, but it certainly levels the SWU-usage benefit we've had with AA over UA all along.

donotblink Mar 9, 2018 2:19 pm

I'm flying AA in B class for the first time. I'm AAdvantage Platinum and flying on Tuesday from EWR to MIA. I see that it's going to snow in NYC on Tuesday. What's the best strategy to get a shot at being rebooked out of B class? Is it best to call? See people at the Admirals Club (I have the Citi Executive Card), or gate/ticking area? I know that they're probably supposed to oversell B on whatever flight I end up on, but I assume someone might just pick whatever fare class is available (ideally Y, so I get 1.5 EQM, every little bit of ~500 EQM counts).

EQDsSUCK Mar 10, 2018 6:40 am

I am having a hard time locating here if AA platinums can do a free same day flight change on a basic economy fare. Can anyone assist?

serfty Mar 10, 2018 9:21 am


Originally Posted by EQDsSUCK (Post 29507521)
I am having a hard time locating here if AA platinums can do a free same day flight change on a basic economy fare. ...

The answer is no:

http://s21.q4cdn.com/616071541/files...info-sheet.png

Newsroom - Coming Soon: Basic Economy on Select Flights to Europe - American Airlines Group, Inc.

EQDsSUCK Mar 10, 2018 9:46 am

Ok, I saw that. I just thought there may have been an exemption for elites.

serfty Mar 10, 2018 6:07 pm

The exception for elites is marked with a an asterisk against carry-on bags. There is none so marked in relation to same day flight changes or standby.

Aero137 Mar 12, 2018 8:42 pm


Originally Posted by SkyTeam777 (Post 29476855)
So this brings the end to using SWUs on cheap fares overseas as I’m sure the difference between basic economy and the cheapest economy fare class will be huge.

I am not so sure the price difference will be huge. Even now, in most instances (there are certainly exceptions), the price of basic economy isn't all that much lower than standard fares.

And from my understanding, the airlines don't want you to buy basic economy fares unless you are very price conscious. They have to price standard fares at a premium that is only commensurate with the benefits, if they want people to buy it.


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