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AA Basic Economy Fare as of 2017 (and on AY, BA, IB) (Master thread)

AA Basic Economy Fare as of 2017 (and on AY, BA, IB) (Master thread)

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Basic Economy Fare Introduced Feb 2017

Transatlantic Basic Economy Across JBV (AA, AY, BA, IB) Began April 2018
(see below)


Link to aa.com page


Link to AA press release

Link to Gary Leff's blog article

Originally Posted by NYC Flyer View Post
Basic Economy always books into B, but it is what's referred to as a dual booking class fare. The fare is determined by availability of B class (which is generally, but not always unlimited if the route offers Basic Economy), as well as another booking class (N,Q,V, etc.). A fare basis of Q3UZNB3 represents a Basic Economy "branded" fare that requires both Q and B classes to be available for sale at the time the reservation is made. This is not dissimilar to an instant upgrade fare. Purchasing a ticket with a fare basis of KVEUPNIF allows the passenger to be booked in I class (first class on domestic flights), provided both K and I classes are available at the time the reservation is made...
NOTE: During OSO / IROPS, some were being inadvertently rebooked from Main Cabin / Economy into Basic Economy (losing better seating, upgrade options, etc.) See AA Errors Reticketing into Basic Economy Fare

Special notice
Customers flying Basic Economy are now allowed 1 free carry-on (in addition to a personal item) to all destinations.
As of July 2019, Basic Economy passengers can purchase seats up to seven days before flying. Link to JonNYC Tweet.
Link to archived FT speculation thread

AA offers Basic Economy fares in across its domestic network and on transatlantic routes.

The boarding pass displays a large, scarlet B on it.

"These no-frills tickets provide a simple and affordable way to experience American’s network, and provide customers the option to pay for the services they want." - AA

Restrictions

A ticket gets you a seat in Main Cabin, with restrictions:
  • 1 item that fits under the seat in front of you and one regular overhead bin carryon as of 5 Sep 2018 and onward.) (Practically, Boarding in the last group offers a high chance rollaboard will be gate-checked.)

  • Seats assigned at check-in

  • Fees to choose a specific seat

  • Not eligible for upgrades

  • No flight changes or refunds

  • Board in last group* (Group 9)

  • Earn 0.5 EQM, 0.5 EQS per mile / segment flown


Inflight experience - Snacks and inflight entertainment included.

Earn AAdvantage miles (but see below - 0.5 EQM, 0.5 EQS)

OSO / IROPS - Will be reaccommodated on AA, not other airlines

[QUOTE]Routes

Some Basic Economy fares became available for purchase on select routes for travel starting March 1 2017, some international and transatlantic flights.

"Here’s a look at what Basic Economy customers can expect:

In-flight experience – The same in-flight experience that all Main Cabin customers receive today, including free entertainment options, soft drinks, and snacks, and the same seats.

Seat assignments – Made automatically and only when customers check in. Paid seat assignments can be purchased 7 days before the flight.

Elite member access to Main Cabin Extra - Basic Economy fare tickets aren't eligible for complimentary/discounted access to Main Cabin Extra seats. (Link)

UpgradesNot permitted, regardless of elite status level.

Bags – One personal carry-on item that fits under the seat (such as a purse or small backpack) and one overhead bin bag may be brought on board effective 5 Sep 2018.

N.B. Elite customers and eligible AAdvantage® credit cardmembers will be allowed to bring one personal item, one rollaboard, and they maintain their current free checked bag allowance.

Boarding – Basic Economy customers will comprise the last boarding group and will be seated in the Main Cabin. Elite customers and eligible AAdvantage® credit cardmembers will continue to receive Priority or preferred boarding even when purchasing this fare.

Tickets – Non-refundable, non-changeable. Use it or lose it. No same-day flight change or same-day standby.

AAdvantage – Full AAdvantage miles and Elite Qualifying Dollars may be earned when purchasing these fares; however, only one-half Elite Qualifying Mile will be earned per mile flown, and one-half Elite Qualifying Segment per segment flown.

Multiple disclosures spell out the attributes of a Basic Economy ticket at the time of purchase on aa.com, and when utilizing the airline’s reservations phone centers or when booking through a travel agent or online travel site. In addition to clear disclosures at the time of purchase, Basic Economy customers will also receive reminders as their travel day gets closer, including at check-in kiosks at the airport.

“Our goal is to make sure that all customers have the opportunity to purchase a ticket on American that works for their specific needs,” said Robert Isom. “We will work hard to ensure transparency, provide clear explanations of these fares, and we look forward to continuing to offer a wide variety of services to our customers.'"

Also note that Gary Leff confirmed

Update: American has now confirmed to me that basic economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will be at the bottom of the list for automatic re-accommodation (on AA) as well. However basic economy “B” inventory will not need to be available in order to be moved onto another flight.


Q&A

Is this a new fare discount?

No; it is a new lowest fare. These fares will be lower than regular Main Cabin fares in the same way that discounted Main Cabin fares are lower than fully flexible Y fares.


How many Basic Economy seats will be available on each flight?

The number will vary depending on the same factors that affect pricing generally. Revenue management, as usual.


How many markets will have Basic Economy fares available?

AA introduced Basic Economy in ten markets and expanded in to many domestic, international (including transatlantic) Flights.


Is the on-board experience in Basic Economy different?

“Once on the plane, Basic Economy customers have the same in-flight experience as anyone else in Main Cabin, including complimentary soft drinks and a snack. They sit in regular Main Cabin seats. American has no plans to alter its seats or the interior of its aircraft for Basic Economy.”


Will families that include young children be seated together?

“As it does today, American’s reservations system will check for families
traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and
attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we
follow for Main Cabin customers.”


TRANSATLANTIC JBV BASIC ECONOMY APPLICATION (April 2018)

Now: Basic Economy on select flights to Europe
AA News, Thursday, March 01, 2018, 8:30 AM <link>

“Starting in April (2018), American will introduce Basic Economy on some trans-Atlantic flights, giving customers a new option for our lowest fares.

We're making this addition together with our Atlantic Joint Business partners British Airways, Iberia and Finnair.

We're following the same playbook in this latest expansion as we did for the initial rollout of Basic Economy. That includes training that began this week for Airports and Reservations team members and making it available in a limited number of markets first to make sure we get it right.

In general, most options and restrictions for trans-Atlantic Basic Economy are similar to those for domestic Basic Economy or for short-haul international Basic Economy such as flights to Canada, although there are a few differences.

A closer look at domestic and trans-Atlantic Basic Economy

Link to download pdf

Boarding: Trans-Atlantic Basic Economy customers, including those originating with a domestic leg, will board in Group 8. Elite customers and eligible AAdvantage® credit card members will continue to receive Priority or preferred boarding even when purchasing this fare. (British Airways and American only, on American this will mean Group 8, and this doesn’t apply to Finnair or Iberia.)

Carry-on Bags: The carry-on bag allowance for all international Main Cabin fares, including trans-Atlantic Basic Economy, is one personal item and one larger carry-on. This is unchanged from international Main Cabin fares today.

Checked Bags: Regular Main Cabin fares will continue to include one checked bag for free. A new fee will apply for the first checked bag on trans-Atlantic Basic Economy. (But AA Elites retain their respective free checked baggage allowances.)

Connections: Customers flying on a domestic Basic Economy leg connecting to a trans-Atlantic Basic Economy ticket will travel under the rules of the international ticket, including the carry-on bag allowance.

Inflight experience: Regardless of whether they are traveling on a Basic Economy fare or a regular Main Cabin fare, all Main Cabin customers will have the same experience, including the same free entertainment, soft drinks, snacks and meals offered today.

Seat assignments: Free seat assignments are made automatically when customers check in. Customers flying trans-Atlantic Basic Economy can purchase a seat assignment at any time.

Tickets: Non-refundable. No same-day flight change or same-day standby. However, the tickets are changeable (for a fee), which is different from domestic Basic Economy where changes are not allowed at all.

Upgrades: Not permitted, regardless of elite status level.”
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Old Jan 26, 17, 11:53 pm
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Originally Posted by BarryAZ View Post
Perhaps this is only an interim step. Eventually, they will reconfigure the planes with a pitch of 18 inches and covert the rows on 737's to 4 / 3 or even 4 / 4..
Or maybe aisle on one side of the plane only.
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Old Jan 27, 17, 7:05 am
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Originally Posted by BarryAZ View Post
I wonder if they could have named this instead of basic economy, in a manner consistent with their other economy naming.

That is, Economy Plus, Economy, and Economy Minus

Just wondering.
You're confusing AA with United.
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Old Jan 27, 17, 7:19 am
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Originally Posted by jay_dubya View Post
You're confusing AA with United.
Yeah, on AA it'd be Main Cabin Extra, Main Cabin, and Main Cabin Shortchanged.
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Old Jan 27, 17, 9:54 am
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Originally Posted by MCOGUY View Post
I fly out of MCO weekly and I see this as a nightmare waiting to happen. Families routinely ask others to switch seats as their family got split up (i.e. didn't want to pay for 'premium seats'), and this will just make it worse. Not to mention all the travelers with their Disney/Universal souvenirs they bring aboard - gate police here we come, and slow down the boarding for everyone else!
I think the real nightmare is for the GAs who are going to have to try to charge lots of Econ-- pax $25 (or whatever) for carry-on suitcases. That's got to really slow things down and make a mess!
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Old Jan 27, 17, 12:15 pm
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Is B going to be the fare basis code for this bucket? How do we know that tickets bought before the roll-out are not lumped into this fare bucket?
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Old Jan 27, 17, 12:33 pm
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It is B. B only. And B hasn't been sold for what, almost a year now?

Originally Posted by uxb View Post
Is B going to be the fare basis code for this bucket? How do we know that tickets bought before the roll-out are not lumped into this fare bucket?
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Old Jan 27, 17, 12:35 pm
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Originally Posted by controller1 View Post
I assume if one is already boarding with a personal item, the complimentary cinder block must remain at the gate area?
These will be deposited in recycled Bistro Bag carts positioned at the end of the jetway prior to aircraft entry.

Originally Posted by rjw242 View Post
Yeah, on AA it'd be Main Cabin Extra, Main Cabin, and Main Cabin Shortchanged.
This! MCS. ROFL.
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Old Jan 29, 17, 3:02 pm
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Elite customers and eligible AAdvantage® credit cardmembers will be allowed to bring one personal item, one rollaboard, and they maintain their current free checked bag allowance.

How about others on the same itinerary? Right now free checked bags include others on my itinerary, but will that include a roller-bag and priority boarding?
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Old Jan 29, 17, 3:09 pm
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I'm seeing a conflict of information on the AA website:

Basic Economy
Elite Qualifying Miles (EQMs) and Elite Qualifying Segments (EQSs) earned at a reduced rate of 0.5 per mile/flight segment flown
Earn and Redeem miles with American
For travel on or after January 1, 2017
Cabin | Fares booked in | EQM | EQD
Economy Y, B, W* 1.50 Yes
The bolded "B" in the quote is done by myself. Is this a matter of the AAdvantage page not being updated yet?

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Old Jan 29, 17, 3:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Gig103 View Post
I'm seeing a conflict of information on the AA website:





The bolded "B" in the quote is done by myself. Is this a matter of the AAdvantage page not being updated yet?
I suppose you could argue that it's not completely wrong until they're actually offering Basic "B" fares; someone might have an old "B" fare flight and want to look it up.

But they really ought to be putting up "before Feb" and "after Feb" info by now since we're so close. They might end up coming down to the wire, like they did for the new partner-earning tables on Aug 1.
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Old Jan 29, 17, 4:19 pm
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Originally Posted by pinniped View Post
lol...that truly is a unicorn.

I'd rather have one extra pop in the lounge than board thirty minutes early to gaze longingly at an FA while she ignores my desire for a half-cup of warm Bud Lite.
LMAO. That was golden. And so true.
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Old Jan 29, 17, 4:26 pm
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Originally Posted by BarryAZ View Post
I wonder if they could have named this instead of basic economy, in a manner consistent with their other economy naming.

That is, Economy Plus, Economy, and Economy Minus

Just wondering.
I'm assuming for now it'll be Main Cabin Extra, Main Cabin, and Steerage.
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Old Jan 29, 17, 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by jay_dubya View Post
Obvious to me that milesaaver tickets will be Regular economy tickets. No reason to think otherwise.
Just wait until Milesaaver domestic awards go from 12.5K to 15K, and they introduce a Milesaaaaver ticket that's 12.5K in the BE class.
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Old Jan 29, 17, 4:55 pm
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
this fee I could live with to get out of the middle seat
I hate middle seats, too. However, I would gladly sit in a middle seat next to two customers who stay in their own space as opposed to a window seat next to a middle seat customer that impedes into my space with their upper body.
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Old Jan 30, 17, 8:22 am
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Nightmare scenario that - I suppose it's something cultural. Every so often on a regional or a mainline economy main cabin segment I've sat next to some guy (I can't ever remember a woman doing it) who treats the seat next to him as an extension of his own. Elbowing, legs akimbo, I just don't understand it.

Originally Posted by EQDsSUCK View Post
I hate middle seats, too. However, I would gladly sit in a middle seat next to two customers who stay in their own space as opposed to a window seat next to a middle seat customer that impedes into my space with their upper body.
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