Jan 4, 2017, 9:24 pm
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HELP DESK: Lounge Access, Access Rules. Will I Have Lounge Access? (2017)
Please read this wiki carefully; some fine nuances exist.
Please read this wiki carefully; some fine nuances exist.
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The Lounge Access Help Desk
To assist members with questions about Lounge Access Rules that they have not been able to answer on their own using the above resources, the AA Moderator team has decided to institute this thread, the third in a series of "Help Desk" threads. N.B.: If you have questions about physical access to a specific lounge (e.g., airside vs. landside, different terminal, etc.), please search for and post to the appropriate specific thread for that lounge.
New threads on this topic will be merged into this one and bumped by the moderators as necessary. As such, we do not expect that this thread will develop into a searchable database, but that it will nonetheless provide a valuable resource to members. As well, we may shed / pare down posts from time to time to a trailing thread or similar device.
Our goal is to provide a place where members can feel welcome to post such questions and expect helpful, accurate responses. In this way, we hope to accommodate the needs and desires of both new and veteran members - those who aren't sure they are interpreting the available resources correctly can ask for help without fear of snarky-appearing responses; those who do not wish to participate in such threads are invited and, indeed, encouraged, to ignore this thread.
Please be forewarned: This thread will be subject to heavy moderation. Posts that are incorrect will be subject to deletion without notice - DO NOT POST answers unless you are 100% sure your answer is complete and correct. Posts that are unhelpful or off-topic will also be subject to deletion without notice - DO NOT POST unless you can be friendly, helpful, concise, and salient.
Finally, a few guidelines for members posting queries to this thread:
- Please DO make an effort to review the listed resources before posting here.
- Please DO try to give as much information as possible, including your entire itinerary, with carrier for each segment and codeshares and stopovers clearly designated, your class of service and fare class purchased, whether or not you have Admirals Club or Qantas Club membership, a Citi AAdvantage Executive card (which includes full Admirals Club membership), and the number of guests and your family relationship with them, if any.
- Please DO understand it could take some time for answers (especially on holidays and weekends.)
- Please DO thank helpful members volunteering to reply to your questions.
Also see the future changes in lounges and access: Admirals Club and Flagship Lounge Changes, Renovations & Additions
Sincerely,
The American Airlines | AAdvantage forum Moderator Team
(Help Desk established by dstan)
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oneworld Lounge Access
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Help Desk: Lounge Access Rules / Will I Have Lounge Access?
Lounge Access can be obtained in a number of ways during travel on AA and its oneworld partner airlines. These include purchasing an Admirals Club one day pass, or via Citi AAdvantage Executive MasterCard (including, as of Dec 2015, authorized card users), reciprocity agreements with other airlines, traveling on certain transcon flights in F or J, or traveling internationally with Platinum (oneworld Sapphire) or Executive Platinum (oneworld Emerald) status or in F or J classes of service - except if flying solely within North America inc,Using destinations other than MEX or the Caribbean. The last is often the greatest source of confusion, despite lounge access rules being described clearly on aa.com. Threads about these are linked to in the American Airlines LOUNGE DASHBOARD thread.
Admirals Club members paid or Executive cardholder members) are entitled guests as follows:
Up to two guests or household members (spouse, domestic partner and/or children under the age of 18) may accompany the member.
For AA status-based access (PLT, PlatPro or EXP),* passengers must: (1) be traveling on an international itinerary (Europe, Asia, Central and South America, and Mexico City, excluding the Caribbean and other destinations in North America (other than on certain three class transcontinental flights) including other destinations in Mexico, and (2) have an onward flight on a oneworld airline marketed and operated flight on the same day. PLT and PPRO members are eligible for access to all oneworld Business Class lounges, now including Flagship Lounges, including Admirals Clubs; EXP members are also eligible for access to all oneworld First Class lounges, including Flagship Lounges.
Lounges operated by third parties or premium lunges operating outside of oneworld rules (e.g. BA Concorde Room, Qatar Al Safwa or Al Mourjan lounges) may be excluded, and all may may refuse admittance if they claim they are crowded. There are other exceptions.
*Non-AA oneworld Sapphire and Emerald elites are not subject to rule #1 above.
Emerald / EP on CX JFK-YVR are not subject to AA limitations and are issued Flagship Lounge invitations for use at JFK.
Another confusing rule relates to transcontinental access. From member FriendlySkies:
Traveling on a Non-Stop Transcontinental* Flight? http://www.aa.com/i18n/utility/trans-con-access.jsp
More changes:
If you are traveling in the First or Business class cabin (on flights sold as three classes) in one of the following non-stop markets, we welcome you to visit the lounge as indicated below.
More changes:
If you are traveling in the First or Business class cabin (on flights sold as three classes) in one of the following non-stop markets, we welcome you to visit the lounge as indicated below.
The following exceptions apply:
First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean; customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access. one world lounge access page - link
First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean; customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access. one world lounge access page - link
In the Flagship Dining subsection, they state:
Beginning in early 2017, the Flagship Dining experience will be available in select cities with 3-class service:
● Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW)
● New York (JFK)
● Miami (MIA)
● Los Angeles (LAX)
First Class customers on American’s 3-class international and transcontinental flights will have exclusive access to Flagship Dining in 2017
● Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW)
● New York (JFK)
● Miami (MIA)
● Los Angeles (LAX)
First Class customers on American’s 3-class international and transcontinental flights will have exclusive access to Flagship Dining in 2017
Flagship Lounges (JFK, LAX, LHR and ORD) offer extended beverages and upscale snack services as well. See below for link.
NOTE: Some Lounges and Clubs are undergoing refurbishment.
Citi Prestige MasterCard holder Admirals Club access ended July 23, 2017.
American Express Platinum cardholder Admirals Club access ended 21 March 2014.
NOTE: It has been verified more airports are allowing multiple terminal access on one's day of departure. LAX has been one since mid-2014.
Admirals Club access is granted the day of flight for statusholders flyingone world and those flying F or J, or the following day at the first port of arrival if flying overnight and arriving by 0600.
Airports requiring Lounge users have a same day departure boarding pass include BOG, CCS, CDG, GIG, GRU, LHR, MEX, NRT, SCL, YYZ.
N.B. Qantas Lounges and Clubs require Smart Casual (sic) dress as of May 2015; those not meeting the standard may be turned away. They also require AAdvantage members be traveling on a departing AA marketed flight.
Please see the following resources for full details on Lounge Access Rules: (and see below)
. . . ● AA.com: Lounge Access Rules
. . . ● AA.com: American Airlines Flagship Lounge Access Rules
Beginning later in 2017: https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ge-updates.jsp opens Flagship access to many more pax.
. . . ● AA.com: Reimaging our lounges
. . . ● AA.com: Admirals Club Membership Guide in a downloadable PDF format.
. . . ● oneworld.com: Lounge Access Rules and Search Tool
. . . ● Wiki: Lounges
. . . ● FT: American Airlines LOUNGE DASHBOARD
For various threads on membership, access by status, transcon service, class of service, Flagship lounge access, lounges directory with links to specific lounge threads, Club member access to partner lounges, recipripocity agreements, etc.
. . . ● Last year's thread:HELP DESK: Will I Have Lounge Access? Access, Rules (2016)
ARCHIVE: HELP DESK: Will I Have Lounge Access? Access, Rules (2017)
Jun 17, 2017, 6:10 pm
#436
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: LHR / LAS
Programs: BA GfL, GGL/CCR
Posts: 2,409
As a non-AA Emerald you have access to both upon arrival and once the clubs reopen the next morning.
The AC/FL is open until 2:00 am, so you can spend quite a bit of time there. The QF F Lounge closes at 11:30 pm, so I'd recommend heading to the QF F Lounge for a nice dinner and some great wines, and then heading back to the AC/FL for the rest of your layover until it closes.
The AC/FL opens at 5:00 am and the QF lounge opens at 6:30 am so you'll be lounge-less for three hours. Not sure how quickly they get their kitchen up and running, but again, breakfast in the QF lounge will beat the AC/FL if you can make it work before boarding (which I presume will be 8:00 am).
The AC/FL is open until 2:00 am, so you can spend quite a bit of time there. The QF F Lounge closes at 11:30 pm, so I'd recommend heading to the QF F Lounge for a nice dinner and some great wines, and then heading back to the AC/FL for the rest of your layover until it closes.
The AC/FL opens at 5:00 am and the QF lounge opens at 6:30 am so you'll be lounge-less for three hours. Not sure how quickly they get their kitchen up and running, but again, breakfast in the QF lounge will beat the AC/FL if you can make it work before boarding (which I presume will be 8:00 am).
Thanks zpaul - sounds like a plan! A great plan. Ever since the connector has opened, its made LAX one of our fav airports !
I just need to remember to have a coffee and a beer, not beer and a beer!
Appreciate your advice - thanks.
Jun 18, 2017, 11:22 am
#437
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 2
Jun 18, 2017, 4:53 pm
#438
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: BOS
Programs: AA, SPG, UA, CSP
Posts: 338
Traveling First - AUH-JFK-BOS - access to lounge in JFk
Hi
I am traveling in First class from Abu Dhabi to Boston (via JFK) - Abu Dhabi to JFK sector on etihad. I have a 4 hour layover in JFK before I take a partner flight on American to Boston. Is there any access to a lounge while I wait.
Thanks
I am traveling in First class from Abu Dhabi to Boston (via JFK) - Abu Dhabi to JFK sector on etihad. I have a 4 hour layover in JFK before I take a partner flight on American to Boston. Is there any access to a lounge while I wait.
Thanks
Jun 18, 2017, 7:32 pm
#439
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
Not on the basis of anything you've posted.
Jun 18, 2017, 7:52 pm
#440
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 1,158
Comment by lucky: "They don’t allow arriving passengers to use it" here
Comment by SeattleTodd: "I've been trying to sweet talk them into granting us arrivals access" here
Oneworld lounges are not going to work (unless you buy, e.g., an Admirals Club day pass) because EY is not a member and your AA flight is domestic. I think this is true even if the EY flight was booked as an AA codeshare, because the requirement for class-of-service lounge access is an international flight marketed and operated by a Oneworld airline.
This is where having some lounge membership card comes in handy!
Jun 18, 2017, 9:05 pm
#441
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Global
Posts: 5,994
To clarify: If you're not an Admirals Club member, you're not accessing the Board member, but of course with PP there are Lounges. Of course, it's name is The Club at SEA.
I do miss the SEA Admirals Club. :sigh:
I do miss the SEA Admirals Club. :sigh:
And yes, miss AA Admiral's club in SEA.
Jun 20, 2017, 3:13 am
#442
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Vancouver
Programs: AB BA Waterloo Mama Mia
Posts: 1,147
Day use pass Admiral Club Dallas FW
I am arriving from LHR to DFW at 5 pm with my 2 boys aged 10. It appears I can purchase a day pass and have them admitted with me free. Having read the wiki (although not necessarily up to date) I see some of the clubs have different facilities ie kids room, showers etc and food offerings. Will this cost be worthwhile for us for a few hours ie 3 or 4 hours and will the food offerings be sufficient to tide them over until our next flight...I understand you can order more substantial offerings as well. Comments appreciated thanks
Jun 20, 2017, 4:06 am
#443
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: AA EXP, Amex Plt, AA AC
Posts: 174
If you have any kind of Amex card I'd suggest you go to the Centurion in D. It is free for Platinum and 50$ for all other card holders. The food and drink is much better and they have a kid area with video games. If you don't have that then I believe Terminal D Admirals has the kids area with several computers set up and such. I'd say for traveling with two boys aged 10 it would be well worth it to spend the 50$ on a day pass. The free offerings at Admirals club aren't gourmet by any standard but will certainly get you by. The soup is pretty darn good even.
Jun 20, 2017, 4:10 am
#444
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: ELP
Programs: AA EXP/LT PLAT, Marriott Titanium/LT PLAT
Posts: 4,120
The soup is pretty good as is the freshly made guacamole. Add a plate of carrots and snap peas with some hummus and it makes a decent meal to hold you over till the next flight.
Jun 20, 2017, 4:11 am
#445
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: AA EXP, Amex Plt, AA AC
Posts: 174
O' and pick up the Loungebuddy app for your phone. It is excellent for giving you locations and how to access all lounges.
Jun 20, 2017, 5:55 am
#446
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: jfk area
Programs: AA platinum; 2MM AA, Delta Diamond, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 10,291
At JFK and Charlotte ACs in the morning they have fresh fruit and hard boiled eggs do they have these in the afternoon also?
Are Amex card holders who purchase a day pass for Centurion lounges allowed any guests?
Are Amex card holders who purchase a day pass for Centurion lounges allowed any guests?
Last edited by nrr; Jun 20, 2017 at 6:12 am
Jun 20, 2017, 7:36 am
#447
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
I am arriving from LHR to DFW at 5 pm with my 2 boys aged 10. It appears I can purchase a day pass and have them admitted with me free. Having read the wiki (although not necessarily up to date) I see some of the clubs have different facilities ie kids room, showers etc and food offerings. Will this cost be worthwhile for us for a few hours ie 3 or 4 hours and will the food offerings be sufficient to tide them over until our next flight...I understand you can order more substantial offerings as well. Comments appreciated thanks
"Up to three children under 18 years of age admitted for free at no additional cost, if accompanied by an adult day pass visitor."
The main Lounge Dashboard in the WELCOME and LOUNGE DASHBOARD "sticky" thread has extensive links, including to individual threads including more links - the link to the DFW Clubs listing on AA.com here reveals Children's Rooms in the Terminal A, C and D Clubs.
In the afternoon there are soup, fresh guacamole and other snacks, as well as a menu of paid food offerings.
Jun 20, 2017, 9:20 am
#448
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,913
BOS Lounge Options for Platinum
Hello I am flying on AA soon out of BOS and am a Platinum member. Would it be inconvenient to use the BA lounge? Is this the best OW lounge at BOS?
Jun 20, 2017, 10:02 am
#449
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AA EP, Hilton Diamond, Hertz Platinum
Posts: 636
Are you flying domestically or internationally?
