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Welcome to the 2017 "NEWBIE LOUNGE"
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Nov 9, 2017, 8:09 am

#1966

MikeFromTokyo

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Location: BKK

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Originally Posted by aquamarinesteph

I don't mean to sound stupid here. I DID read the majority of the AA Lounge thread, including the Wiki, but I am one of those people who needs to hear a confirmation from others who have done this before.

We are flying on another airline to Sicily. We have a significant layover in Rome. I hold a Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard. Can I access an AA lounge in Rome with this card if I am not flying AA that day? Thank you!!

Which airline are you flying? Alitalia? There could be paid lounge access options, or if you have any other credit cards/priority pass, you may have access to a lounge at FCO.

Nov 9, 2017, 8:12 am

#1967

jay_dubya

Join Date: Jun 2016

Location: NYC,MIA,XFL

Programs: AA EXP, B6 Mosaic, DL PM

Posts: 863

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Originally Posted by WearyTravellerMSP

Thanks. conversely, if you use miles, that will upgrade from Y to business as well?

Yes

Nov 9, 2017, 8:18 am

#1968

knit-in

Join Date: Sep 2000

Location: New York, New York

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Posts: 4,682

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Originally Posted by JDiver

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...rs-2017-a.html

Thanks!

Nov 9, 2017, 10:33 am

#1969

MikeFromTokyo

Join Date: Jan 2009

Location: BKK

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Originally Posted by JJeffrey

That is correct, 30k each way for business from Asia 1 to Asia 2.
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Thanks for your help, JJeffrey^

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Originally Posted by WearyTravellerMSP

Thanks. conversely, if you use miles, that will upgrade from Y to business as well?

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Originally Posted by jay_dubya

Yes

That’s very good on AA’s part. And smart of them to preserve that benefit, because Y>J upgrades are amomg the most valuable benefits to frequent fliers.

But, this poses another question. Is there a reduced mileage requirement and/or upgrade priority for passengers purchasing PY upgrading to J? Similar to how full fare Y upgrading to J requires fewer miles and no copay?

Also, are full Y fares automatically booked into premium economy seating on aircraft so equipped, or is that a separate booking class?

While upgrading Y>J is often the best value proposition, PY >J can be preferable in a waitlisted situation. That means a relatively better seat is already confirmed in the event that the J upgde does not clear.

Nov 9, 2017, 1:56 pm

#1970

jiddywop

Join Date: Jan 2014

Location: Pittsburgh

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AA Award Travel Questions

Thanks for having the Newbie Lounge!

I am Plat with AA

Do segments flown on award miles tickets count towards status?

Are upgrades to F possible when flying on an award miles ticket?

Thanks,
JWP

Nov 9, 2017, 2:30 pm

#1971

jay_dubya

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Originally Posted by jiddywop

Thanks for having the Newbie Lounge!

I am Plat with AA

Do segments flown on award miles tickets count towards status?

Are upgrades to F possible when flying on an award miles ticket?

Thanks,
JWP

No to both. Upgrades on awards only for EXP

Nov 9, 2017, 6:54 pm

#1972

hendrixnk75

Join Date: Nov 2017

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Looking for assistance to ensure I have a potential routing correct. I have researched award space and rules, but remain not 100%. I'm going to Bora Bora in October 2018, and am considering the long way back, PPT-AKL-DOH-LHR/CDG. Will this price as 1 ticket in business for 85k, as long as I use Qatar for both the AKL-DOH and DOH-CDG/LHR legs? Appreciate any input.

Nov 9, 2017, 9:00 pm

#1973

Mwenenzi

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Originally Posted by hendrixnk75

Question also asked here Question on valid routing

Nov 9, 2017, 9:21 pm

#1974

aquamarinesteph

Join Date: Jun 2017

Location: MidSouth

Programs: AA; Delta GM

Posts: 728

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Originally Posted by JJeffrey

The Citi Exec card comes with a full AC membership, which you don't need to be flying AA to use.

However, since there is no Admirals Club in FCO, it won't do you any good before your flight to Sicily.

Thanks for the reply! And I'm confused now, b/c the well illustrated book that came with the credit card says there's an Admirals Club in Rome (FCO). Maybe it's a misprint?

Thanks again!! :-)

Nov 9, 2017, 11:07 pm

#1975

CloudCoder

Join Date: Feb 2003

Location: USA & UK -- AA EXP 3.5MM, Hyatt Diamond, SPG Plat, Avis President's Club

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Originally Posted by aquamarinesteph

Thanks for the reply! And I'm confused now, b/c the well illustrated book that came with the credit card says there's an Admirals Club in Rome (FCO). Maybe it's a misprint?

Thanks again!! :-)

Yes, there is a partner lounge in Rome, and your Citi Executive card gives you (but not authorized users) access. Details here.

Nov 10, 2017, 3:54 am

#1976

JJeffrey

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aquamarinesteph

Thanks for the reply! And I'm confused now, b/c the well illustrated book that came with the credit card says there's an Admirals Club in Rome (FCO). Maybe it's a misprint?

Thanks again!! :-)

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Originally Posted by CloudCoder

Yes, there is a partner lounge in Rome, and your Citi Executive card gives you (but not authorized users) access. Details here.

AA provides lounge access to AC members at certain 3rd party and partner lounges, typically at international outstations (like FCO) where there is no AC. However in order to access these lounges via your AC membership you need to be departing on a same day AA flight.

So departing FCO to Sicily on another carrier won't get you in...

Nov 10, 2017, 8:13 am

#1977

jacobguo

Join Date: Nov 2015

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LUS 321. Finding myself between 10B and 5C/D. Hmm…

Nov 10, 2017, 12:47 pm

#1978

aquamarinesteph

Join Date: Jun 2017

Location: MidSouth

Programs: AA; Delta GM

Posts: 728

Thanks again for the replies! :-)

Nov 10, 2017, 3:06 pm

#1979

djtsukasa

Join Date: Oct 2012

Location: SAN

Posts: 487

Quick question about routing rules again.... so I put an award on hold for TYO-ORD, with my real intention being TYO-ORD-SAN. They said the route itself is valid, and that it would be under 1 award (first, so 80K miles). But, they said there is no availability from ORD-SAN with a Saver award, therefore they can not add it. I thought a first class award was not a saver award? Unless all partner bookings are considered "saver?"

Thanks!

Nov 10, 2017, 3:26 pm

#1980

guv1976

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Originally Posted by djtsukasa

A First Class award can be either SAAver or AAnytime on an all-AA-metal itinerary.

Any award that includes even one segment on partner metal can only be a SAAver award, regardless of class of service.

Remember that you have up to 24 hours to connect in ORD on an international award.

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