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The Newbie Lounge is a place for newer and less experienced members to ask their questions about American Airlines and the AAdvantage program and have answered by our more experienced and knowledgeable members. Feel free to ask any question related to American Airlines and AAdvantage here.
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[2017 NEWBIE LOUNGE] Ask Your "Newbie" AA Questions Here (flame free)
Nov 2, 2017, 11:46 am
#1921
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 12,437
It's not possible to extend the expiration of SWU's. If it was, everyone would be doing it. Some (profitable) members are allowed to apply them to flights after January, but other than that you have to use them by the end of January.
Nov 2, 2017, 12:01 pm
#1922
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 2
Hello, new to the forum and just got my Amex Platinum. I chose Alaska Airlines as my airline for $200 credit. Does anyone know if you still get reimbursed purchasing Alaska Airline gift card vouchers? Any help appreciated!
Last edited by jbross; Nov 2, 2017 at 1:41 pm
Nov 2, 2017, 1:04 pm
#1923
Join Date: Jul 2001
Programs: AA EP
Posts: 2,203
Wait. U chose AS but want to buy AA gift cards and have them re-imbued by amex?
I don’t see how this would work.
I don’t see how this would work.
Nov 2, 2017, 5:31 pm
#1925
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 12,437
Nov 3, 2017, 7:17 am
#1926
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: CLE
Programs: UA, AA Plat Pro, DL, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 476
How do you cancel an upgrade request? Is it possible online, or is a phone call necessary?
Nov 3, 2017, 10:28 am
#1928
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: The Desert
Programs: AAdvantage Gold
Posts: 4
Credit for unflown segments
Sorry for being the millionth person to ask this...
If I fly a one way multi segment flight and ditch the last flight, do I get credit for previous segments flown or do I get nothing?
Flying from Asia to northern Cal with a great base fare but planning to hop off one stop before the end...don't want to lose all of the miles earned but can handle the last leg not being credited.
Any help is much appreciated!
If I fly a one way multi segment flight and ditch the last flight, do I get credit for previous segments flown or do I get nothing?
Flying from Asia to northern Cal with a great base fare but planning to hop off one stop before the end...don't want to lose all of the miles earned but can handle the last leg not being credited.
Any help is much appreciated!
Nov 3, 2017, 2:10 pm
#1929
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: New Orleans
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 655
Sorry for being the millionth person to ask this...
If I fly a one way multi segment flight and ditch the last flight, do I get credit for previous segments flown or do I get nothing?
Flying from Asia to northern Cal with a great base fare but planning to hop off one stop before the end...don't want to lose all of the miles earned but can handle the last leg not being credited.
Any help is much appreciated!
If I fly a one way multi segment flight and ditch the last flight, do I get credit for previous segments flown or do I get nothing?
Flying from Asia to northern Cal with a great base fare but planning to hop off one stop before the end...don't want to lose all of the miles earned but can handle the last leg not being credited.
Any help is much appreciated!
if this is one way, or the return, there's less but still some risk - think this is hidden city ticketing.
usually can not check bags to your penultimate destination, tho if that is your gateway to the US you can collect 'em and simply not recheck.
if this becomes a habit, you likely will get dinged by aa. if done sporadically,, and especially if the last leg is on another alliance, there's very low risk.
Nov 3, 2017, 8:36 pm
#1930
Join Date: Aug 2016
Programs: Qatar Platinum
Posts: 107
I have a flight from JFK-MAD-LIS on one ticket. JFK-MAD operated on AA and MAD-LIS on IB. Is it possible to check bags from JFK to only MAD and then re check in at MAD for the flight to LIS? The connection time is 3+ hours which is sufficient.
Nov 4, 2017, 4:33 am
#1931
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
The immigration queues at MAD T-4S can be quite lengthy, by the way. Take the farthest right queue; often non-EU passport holders are diverted to the EU portal when it's empty. The far right queue can take 1/3 - 1/2 of the time of the other queues. Just experienced this again Thursday.
Nov 4, 2017, 3:43 pm
#1932
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: SAN
Posts: 487
Hey guys, I'm not too familiar with AA's routing rules for award travel. I'm trying to go from TYO-SAN, but there aren't any openings on JAL unless I go TYO-JFK-SAN. I can definitely book the TYO-JFK, but is it a valid routing to go TYO-JFK-SAN? The TYO-JFK is less than 25% more than the TYO-SAN MPM, but if you tack on the JFK-SAN it might go over, didn't know how that worked. Thanks!
Nov 4, 2017, 4:41 pm
#1933
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
Hey guys, I'm not too familiar with AA's routing rules for award travel. I'm trying to go from TYO-SAN, but there aren't any openings on JAL unless I go TYO-JFK-SAN. I can definitely book the TYO-JFK, but is it a valid routing to go TYO-JFK-SAN? The TYO-JFK is less than 25% more than the TYO-SAN MPM, but if you tack on the JFK-SAN it might go over, didn't know how that worked. Thanks!
There are two threads in particular with Wikiposts that can be helpful:
HELP DESK: MileSAAver / SAAver award questions, assistance
AA oneworld & Other Airline Partner Award information, rules (master thd).
The biggest stick at times may be the requirement that the "Or, the "most significant carrier" (e.g. DFW-SFO-HKG-BKK, CX SFO-HKG is the prevailing or most significant carrier) must publish a non-constructed fare between your origin and destination.
To price as a single award, AAdvantage requires the most significant carrier to publish a cash fare (non-constructed) between the origin and destination. Airline MSC would have to have a published fare from XXX to YYY that allows travel on all included airlines, and routing that you want. If the MSC only offers constructed fares between your desired origin and destination, AA will price this as two awards."
Nov 4, 2017, 4:58 pm
#1934
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: SAN
Posts: 487
There are two threads in particular with Wikiposts that can be helpful:
HELP DESK: MileSAAver / SAAver award questions, assistance
AA oneworld & Other Airline Partner Award information, rules (master thd).
The biggest stick at times may be the requirement that the "Or, the "most significant carrier" (e.g. DFW-SFO-HKG-BKK, CX SFO-HKG is the prevailing or most significant carrier) must publish a non-constructed fare between your origin and destination.
To price as a single award, AAdvantage requires the most significant carrier to publish a cash fare (non-constructed) between the origin and destination. Airline MSC would have to have a published fare from XXX to YYY that allows travel on all included airlines, and routing that you want. If the MSC only offers constructed fares between your desired origin and destination, AA will price this as two awards."
HELP DESK: MileSAAver / SAAver award questions, assistance
AA oneworld & Other Airline Partner Award information, rules (master thd).
The biggest stick at times may be the requirement that the "Or, the "most significant carrier" (e.g. DFW-SFO-HKG-BKK, CX SFO-HKG is the prevailing or most significant carrier) must publish a non-constructed fare between your origin and destination.
To price as a single award, AAdvantage requires the most significant carrier to publish a cash fare (non-constructed) between the origin and destination. Airline MSC would have to have a published fare from XXX to YYY that allows travel on all included airlines, and routing that you want. If the MSC only offers constructed fares between your desired origin and destination, AA will price this as two awards."
Nov 4, 2017, 9:58 pm
#1935
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 79
It seems there is some confusion about the EQD earning on special fares for AA flights booked thru opaque sites:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...cial-fares.jsp
One chart lists examples of:
Bulk fares
Cruise fares
Consolidator fares
Discounted or inclusive tour packages
Vacation packages, including American Airlines Vacations® (AAV) packages
Other tickets where the fare isn't disclosed, excluding bookings made through priceline.com or hotwire.com where the carrier isn't disclosed before buying
Another for:
In some cases, ticket/fare details may not be available at the time your flight is posted. If that happens, you'll earn Award Miles and EQDs at a modified rate based on a percentage of the distance flown as determined by the booking code.*
So, where do the Thank You points bookings fall, as I fare earnings difference are substantial-20% for the former vs the latter at 30% of distance?
Thanks and mahalo
https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...cial-fares.jsp
One chart lists examples of:
Bulk fares
Cruise fares
Consolidator fares
Discounted or inclusive tour packages
Vacation packages, including American Airlines Vacations® (AAV) packages
Other tickets where the fare isn't disclosed, excluding bookings made through priceline.com or hotwire.com where the carrier isn't disclosed before buying
Another for:
In some cases, ticket/fare details may not be available at the time your flight is posted. If that happens, you'll earn Award Miles and EQDs at a modified rate based on a percentage of the distance flown as determined by the booking code.*
So, where do the Thank You points bookings fall, as I fare earnings difference are substantial-20% for the former vs the latter at 30% of distance?
Thanks and mahalo
Considering booking a consolidator fare for an EXP on oneworld.
Tickets issued as BA (or IB) flights.
Shell the EXP passenger expect free seat selections, extra baggage allowance...all EXP benefits? Does it matter if the flight is operated by AA? I assume no free upgrades because of the non AA ticket anyway.
Also, the charts show EQMs and EQDs for special fares on AA. What happens to EQMs and EQDs when the tickets are issued by other OW carriers? How about lifetime miles flown?
Thanks!
