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[2017 NEWBIE LOUNGE] Ask Your "Newbie" AA Questions Here (flame free)

Old Mar 17, 2017, 5:20 am
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Wow - thanks for the rapid reply!

Thanks - I wasn't expecting any AA credit, as we have opted for BA credit, but is it worth joining AAdvantage anyway/as well - I don't want it to complicate anything we already have set up.

I think I get the first class thing now - the first lounge is for International and domestic first gets the business lounge?
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Old Mar 17, 2017, 8:35 am
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Originally Posted by lincolnite

I think I get the first class thing now - the first lounge is for International and domestic first gets the business lounge?
Domestic first (except for three premium routes JFK-LAX, JFK-LAX, and MIA-LAX) doesn't get any lounge access at all.

For your case, you still get access to the business class lounges because you are connecting to/from an international flight in business class.
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Old Mar 17, 2017, 8:42 am
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Originally Posted by lincolnite
Wow - thanks for the rapid reply!

Thanks - I wasn't expecting any AA credit, as we have opted for BA credit, but is it worth joining AAdvantage anyway/as well - I don't want it to complicate anything we already have set up.

I think I get the first class thing now - the first lounge is for International and domestic first gets the business lounge?
Welcome to FlyerTalk.

There's no, ahem, advantage in you in joining the AAdvantage programme, and doing so might just confuse the systems sufficiently to deny you BAEC TP by crediting one or more flights to AA.

The lounge access for AA and BA are quite different (link to one world lounge access page). BA access is by BAEC tier or class of service, AA Admirals Club have a paid membership scheme. Domestic two class First class seating does not allow lounge access. (domestic first, as on the A321S to Hawaii, is considerably better than Club Euro - 2 x 2 seating in wider seats with more recline, 38" of seat pitch - link).

The lounge access is from oneworld lounge access rules: as you are flying in (and on the return out) the same day on an eligible longhaul international flight in Business, you have access to oneworld Business Lounges during your trip. Outbound, at DUB, LHR, LAX. Return HNL, LAX, LHR. If your LAX layover is lengthy, I recommend the oneworld Business lounge in the Tom Bradley International Terminal, accessible airside from AA Terminal 4, over the Admirals Club. See here for further information.

And outbound, yes, you will have to recover checked bags at LAX to process US Customs, checking them back in at the bag drop area exiting customs.

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Old Mar 17, 2017, 8:43 am
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
First class domestically in the US would be called business in the rest of the world.

No you can't get AA credit if crediting to BA. You earn/get benefits from one airline FF per flight.
To make it more confusing: since January 11 the AA front cabin is coded as business but AA still call it first. Except on routes like the Caribbean where it has always been coded and called business and transcontinental three cabin flights, which have a real first class cabin.

You can only credit to one airline, as flyerCO points out and there is no advantage to opening an AA account unless you want to credit to AA.
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Old Mar 17, 2017, 8:53 am
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Old Mar 17, 2017, 12:48 pm
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Thanks everybody - a mine of information. We will have loads of time in LAX, partly planned to ensure we have time to clear immigration which has taken us anything from over 90 minutes to less than 10 in Phoenix last year. So we should have time to get between terminals an try out the TBIT lounge. I have read posts on here about folk being refused entry if they are not travelling from that terminal, so we will see what happens.

Thanks again.
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Old Mar 17, 2017, 1:52 pm
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I've booked 5 award tickets from JFK to Bangkok, fees were $43.90 x 5 = $ 219.50.
Then I booked 5 return tickets separately from Singapore back to JFK.
The fees charged was $85.56 x 5 = $427.80. These are all economy seats.

I wonder why Singapore to JFK is doubled in fees vs Bangkok to JFK?
(I think the agent overcharged me by adding $40 phone booking charge).
Has anyone booked from Singapore to JFK before? If so, how much you were charged?
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Old Mar 17, 2017, 1:59 pm
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Originally Posted by echip
I've booked 5 award tickets from JFK to Bangkok, fees were $43.90 x 5 = $ 219.50.
Then I booked 5 return tickets separately from Singapore back to JFK.
The fees charged was $85.56 x 5 = $427.80. These are all economy seats.

I wonder why Singapore to JFK is doubled in fees vs Bangkok to JFK?
(I think the agent overcharged me by adding $40 phone booking charge).
Has anyone booked from Singapore to JFK before? If so, how much you were charged?
Why not just call AA and ask if you we're (incorrectly) charged a telephone-booking fee for the return trip?
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Old Mar 17, 2017, 2:08 pm
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Originally Posted by guv1976
Why not just call AA and ask if you we're (incorrectly) charged a telephone-booking fee for the return trip?
I tried to call yesterday, and again today, but each time took my 15-20 minutes on hold. I gave up because I am still at work, but will be heading home shortly. I figure one of flyertalk members might know if they already booked one before.
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Old Mar 17, 2017, 2:09 pm
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Originally Posted by echip
I've booked 5 award tickets from JFK to Bangkok, fees were $43.90 x 5 = $ 219.50.
Then I booked 5 return tickets separately from Singapore back to JFK.
The fees charged was $85.56 x 5 = $427.80. These are all economy seats.

I wonder why Singapore to JFK is doubled in fees vs Bangkok to JFK?
(I think the agent overcharged me by adding $40 phone booking charge).
Has anyone booked from Singapore to JFK before? If so, how much you were charged?
Each departure city, connection airport, and arrival city will have different taxes.

So for JFK to BKK, you will pay the USA departure taxes, and any taxes or passenger surcharges due from any connection airports/countries, and any arrival taxes for Thailand.

For SIN to JFK, you'll pay Singapore departure taxes, taxes for any connection airports, and USA arrival taxes.

It goes without saying that every countries' taxes are different, and the same country will have different departure and arrival taxes, if any. What is your routing?
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Old Mar 17, 2017, 3:41 pm
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Originally Posted by JJeffrey
Each departure city, connection airport, and arrival city will have different taxes.

So for JFK to BKK, you will pay the USA departure taxes, and any taxes or passenger surcharges due from any connection airports/countries, and any arrival taxes for Thailand.

For SIN to JFK, you'll pay Singapore departure taxes, taxes for any connection airports, and USA arrival taxes.

It goes without saying that every countries' taxes are different, and the same country will have different departure and arrival taxes, if any. What is your routing?
Flying Cathay Pacific
JFK-HKG-BKK
then
SIN-HKG-JFK
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Old Mar 17, 2017, 7:42 pm
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Re AA citi platinum Visa

I apologize if I'm in the wrong Forum,
For a few years I've had AAdvantage platinum card, which I might just as soon cancel, but Citi sent me a new replacement card with a different number that I believe is a MasterCard, rather than Visa. Strange there is nothing on the card to denote MasterCard. Because I understand cancelling any Citi card will negatively affect the Citi two year rule. I am asking if I simply do not "Activate" the replaced card, I'm thinking I will in effect be rid of the card without the Citi penalty of cancelling.
Or does failure to Validate a new card count as a cancellation?
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Old Mar 17, 2017, 9:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Dearelliot
I apologize if I'm in the wrong Forum,
For a few years I've had AAdvantage platinum card, which I might just as soon cancel, but Citi sent me a new replacement card with a different number that I believe is a MasterCard, rather than Visa. Strange there is nothing on the card to denote MasterCard. Because I understand cancelling any Citi card will negatively affect the Citi two year rule. I am asking if I simply do not "Activate" the replaced card, I'm thinking I will in effect be rid of the card without the Citi penalty of cancelling.
Or does failure to Validate a new card count as a cancellation?
All MasterCard accounts begin with a 5; all Visa accounts begin with a 4.

If your new card begins with a 5, check the hologram area on the back of the card. Does it say "MasterCard"?

As to your question re: activation, I'll leave that to others to weigh in on.
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Old Mar 18, 2017, 6:52 am
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Re Gov, and the Chip, thanks, yes of course it says Master charge, I'm 83, my eyes just don't work all that well.
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Old Mar 18, 2017, 11:24 am
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first checked bag free question

I have both the Citicard and Barclay AA credit cards but I have charged my
ticket on another credit card. Will I still be able to get the first checked bag free or must the ticket be charged on an AA card?
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