Oct 13, 2016, 10:52 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
AA two class First in US 50 states have been recoded to J, D, I, R and C
AA has announced two class USA 50 states First class will be recoded as D, J and I. To occur 12 Nov 2016, simultaneously with the next schedule change, tickets for travel 11 Jan 2017 and later will be reissued to show the new coding (JonNYC). (The seating and service will remain as it is now; only coding will be changed to allow future coding for AA's new Premium Economy class.)
The current "F" cabin on two class US50 will be changed to "C"
F will be recoded to J
A will be recoded to D (discount F)
P will be recoded to I
X will be recoded as R
A will be recoded as C (upgrade)
c/o BoardingArea
See "American Airlines Memo Details New Fare Booking Classes to Support Sale of Premium Economy" by Gary Leff on October 13, 2016 link
Updates by sensei; updated by JDiver 14 Nov 2016
AA 2 class Domestic US50 First re-coded as J, D, I, R, C Nov 12, 2016
Sep 25, 2016, 10:06 am
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What are you referring to?But on 3 cabin domestic sold as 2 cabin the J cabin is like MCE - available to Elites as MCE. And a comp upgrade is to the 3 cabin F, so I suspect that will still hold. Although not many 3 cabin aircraft left except 77W and the transcon 321.
Sep 25, 2016, 11:51 am
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True.
I'm debating whether to use an SWU for the LHR-MIA leg only. If I hadn't been in F MIA-LAX, I'd use them the whole way.
I'm debating whether to use an SWU for the LHR-MIA leg only. If I hadn't been in F MIA-LAX, I'd use them the whole way.
Sep 25, 2016, 11:57 am
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Sep 25, 2016, 1:39 pm
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As somebody who is going to use his last year of EXP in 2017 transitioning to BA Gold by cherrypicking YUP routes and buying some BA PE tickets, this obviously hurts a bit because it effectively increases the cost of obtaining BA status by about 20%. But I really can't bring myself to be upset about it, because a CR9 F cabin is closer to a BA 787 PE than anything resembling even a J product.
The inability to easily redeem SWUs domestically in A, however, is going to be painful, and just another reason why trying to earn EXP again in 2017 is a non-starter.
The inability to easily redeem SWUs domestically in A, however, is going to be painful, and just another reason why trying to earn EXP again in 2017 is a non-starter.
Sep 25, 2016, 1:45 pm
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Sep 25, 2016, 2:22 pm
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Corporate travel policies
They are potentially doing this to sell more premium tickets to corporate travelers, as corporate travel policies tend to frown on first class tickets but as strict for business class tickets.
Sep 25, 2016, 4:08 pm
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But AA will still be marketing the cabin as domestic first class. Do most corporate travel policies go by what the cabin is marketed as (as that is not changing), or by what the fare code is (as that is what is changing)? In other words, do they see a difference between an "A" fare code and an "I" fare code, for example?
Sep 25, 2016, 4:27 pm
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Guess we are due for a bunch of announcements from AA
- F now J
- Basic Economy
- PEY (AAdvanatge rates, etc)
- In conjunction with PEY, change to one class SWUs mileage upgrades (edit to say y to PEY vs Y to J)
Hopefully this all comes sooner rather than later so we can plan accordingly.
- F now J
- Basic Economy
- PEY (AAdvanatge rates, etc)
- In conjunction with PEY, change to one class SWUs mileage upgrades (edit to say y to PEY vs Y to J)
Hopefully this all comes sooner rather than later so we can plan accordingly.
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Sep 25, 2016, 4:39 pm
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The bolded part is already the case, though. SWU and mileage upgrades are upgrades to the next class. Only now there'll be a different class (PE) that will be the next class.
Sep 25, 2016, 4:51 pm
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But AA will still be marketing the cabin as domestic first class. Do most corporate travel policies go by what the cabin is marketed as (as that is not changing), or by what the fare code is (as that is what is changing)? In other words, do they see a difference between an "A" fare code and an "I" fare code, for example?
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I guess if they want it to be as seamless as possible, they could use a date greater than 330 days out, and thus would only affect new bookings.
What would be interesting if there is enough of a commercial imperative for them to do it sooner, and thus embark on an IT project to change existing bookings with all the associated costs that would entail.
What would be interesting if there is enough of a commercial imperative for them to do it sooner, and thus embark on an IT project to change existing bookings with all the associated costs that would entail.
But Delta and United both advertise their domestic premium product as First. We know it's the products are largely similar among the three carriers regardless of what they're called, but AA only offering "Business" could be seen as inferior by less savvy travelers.