AA LAX-HKG 777-300ER / 77W discussion, issues, etc.

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Apr 19, 2019, 9:59 pm

#1351

MrJBoy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nk15

Now that's an offer you can't refuse, as the saying goes, lol...Was it indeed an offer you had to accept rather than an automatic upgrade, like an op-up?

I had to accept the $0 upgrade offer Y -> PEY. Who doesn't? LOL
However, I had to call EXP desk to re-list my SWU.
I got PEY -> C upgrade by SWU at the gate.

Apr 19, 2019, 10:12 pm

#1352

MrJBoy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by absoluy

No PE seats showing as available just means they’ll roll cabins forward on the day (if needed) to make space in each cabin.

On my departure day PEY seats were all occupied, but W and P were still available according to EF.
Since J was not full at that point I figured AA would move PEY passengers to J or process upgrade to C.
I got PEY -> C upgrade at the gate. Actually it was double upgrades. I took Y -> PEY $0 upgrade offer during OLCI the day before my departure.
Then my SWU to C cleared at the gate.

Apr 20, 2019, 3:15 am

#1353

nk15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by absoluy

No PE seats showing as available just means they’ll roll cabins forward on the day (if needed) to make space in each cabin.

This is a very interesting point made by the last two posters and also explains what I noticed about the gate upgrades: When PE is full, the GAs started clearing the upgrade list out of order by upgrading PE passengers first, even though they were not at the top of the UG list. I was watching the list like a hawk, lol, and confronted them about this (I was above them on the UG list), and they said that they had to clear a couple of PE passengers first, which I was confused and miffed about, but now it all makes sense as to why...Good thing I cleared anyway or it would have been a scene for sure...

Last edited by nk15; Apr 20, 2019 at 3:21 am

Apr 23, 2019, 5:25 pm

#1354

Gilligan44

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lax-hkg-lax aa192/193

Is it worth the money to upgrade to Premium economy over say an exit row in normal economy? What are the pros/cons?

Last edited by Gilligan44; Apr 24, 2019 at 12:46 am

Apr 23, 2019, 5:33 pm

#1355

rumboj

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilligan44

Is it worth it to upgrade to Premium economy over say an exit row in normal economy? What are the pros/cons?

Pros:

Better food
Better seat
Better amenities
More leg room
Potentially more attentive service

Cons:

Higher price

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Apr 23, 2019, 5:42 pm

#1356

jcatman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilligan44

Is it worth it to upgrade to Premium economy over say an exit row in normal economy? What are the pros/cons?

There's an entire thread dedicated to this route and the experience:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...ep-2016-a.html

Apr 23, 2019, 6:19 pm

#1357

Often1

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It might be helpful and get you better information if you changed the thread title to reflect HKG-LAX-HKG. Just in case there are people who haven't memorized the schedule.

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Apr 23, 2019, 7:12 pm

#1358

rumboj

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Often1

It might be helpful and get you better information if you changed the thread title to reflect HKG-LAX-HKG. Just in case there are people who haven't memorized the schedule.

I mean, if they haven’t memorized the schedules and numbers for AA long-haul flights, then they aren’t dedicated FlyerTalkers at all. Oh for shame!

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Apr 23, 2019, 7:15 pm

#1359

Nicc HK

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My only comment is 10 abreast eating in AA 77W economy including MCE. Definitely a modern cruel and unusual punishment.

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Apr 24, 2019, 1:06 am

#1360

Alex Lucille

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Great route to use Alaska miles, 50k for business on CP

Apr 24, 2019, 3:00 am

#1361

cpdc1030

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I am on 192 today, and for the first time ever I was able to do a mobile check-in for an international flight (newly minted green card holder). I got the $0 PE offer but it was a tease, after "accepting", I wasn't able to choose a PE seat and AA's Twitter team found no record of it ever being offered to me. Weird. Looking at the upgrade list right now I'd say it's a toss up as to whether I go Y-J with my systemwide (I'm a low spend EXP...#9 on the list and it looked like there were 11 open J seats earlier). Anyone had a similar experience with the PE Upgrade "offer" and are there any remedies available?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicc HK

My only comment is 10 abreast eating in AA 77W economy including MCE. Definitely a modern cruel and unusual punishment.

CX has also reconfigured most of their 77Ws to 10 abreast...the A350 is a much better option if forced to fly Y (like I am) with them if you can get it.

EDIT: I actually made it and I'm in 14D now, 9/12 on the upgrades that cleared...whew!

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Last edited by cpdc1030; Apr 24, 2019 at 5:56 am Reason: Updated due to upgrade

Jun 5, 2019, 1:50 pm

#1362

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Another day, another AA US-HKG overnight delay. AA193 June 5 delayed 16hr 55m, due to depart 5:45pm today. Crew rest requirements per EF.

Quote:

☨DTE CHNG FLT☨ ORIG 5JUN
LAX 1250A T4 41
HKG ☨ 655A
4LAX/OUT0101 *0301
3LAX/ETD1745 CRR-DELAY DUE TO CREW REST REQUIREMENTS *0432
7LAX/AUTO REACCOM DLY FLT COMPLETED SEE N*P1AA0193LAX05JUN *0442*CRCYMG
5LAX/FLT 0193 STUB ORIG PLN DEP LAX ETD 1745 -- LAX .RMKS ACFT 7LG STUBBED FOR ATC PURPOSES DISP DUTLE
*0527
2HKG/PRE2350 *0527

Jun 5, 2019, 2:09 pm

#1363

teemuflyer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by potus18

Another day, another AA US-HKG overnight delay. AA193 June 5 delayed 16hr 55m, due to depart 5:45pm today. Crew rest requirements per EF.

I wonder how much AA pays CX, JAL for handling all the folks who can't wait for the next day flight on an annual basis??

Jun 5, 2019, 2:27 pm

#1364

ryan182

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I had fantastic experience with this flight a couple weeks ago, could not have been any happier with the result! I had book J and used a SWU to upgrade to F (cleared at booking) a couple months before the flight, well the day I'm supposed to leave I wake up in HKG to discover my flight was 6.5 hours delayed which is pretty crap...unless @:-) due to the absurdly long delay you can get AA to push the ticket to CX and push it over in the upgraded cabin (F). Had about 5 bottles of vintage 2004 Krug, a meal that was several orders of magnitude better than what AA would ever offer, a great Bordeaux and of course flawless service. So while I'm sure the frequent issues on these HKG flights might seem troublesome, when you play the cards right you can take a long delay and turn it into a win.

Jun 5, 2019, 9:55 pm

#1365

stephem

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Hah, we are on HKG-LAX next January all upgraded from J to F and in the back of my head i was wondering what the chances are that something like that happens. I doubt there would be sufficient CX or JL F space for all 5 of us.