AA (LUS) Regional Bombardier DHC-8-300 / Dash 8 (merged threads)
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New Dash 8 seat configurations?
I was recently on a Dash 8, and the flight attendant mentioned that the seats are being changed so that rows 1 and 2 (seats D and F, I think) will no longer be facing each other; there will be no more backwards-facing seats.
Does anyone know what's happening to these planes? I assume that the affected ones are Piedmont, operated out of CLT.
I do not like flying on them and wish that they were retired.
Thanks.
Does anyone know what's happening to these planes? I assume that the affected ones are Piedmont, operated out of CLT.
I do not like flying on them and wish that they were retired.
Thanks.
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My understanding is that they're simply removing the rear-facing seats 1DF on the Dash 8-300s. The reason for this is to reduce the seat count from 50 to 48, which will allow them to add more RJs without violating the mainline pilot contract scope agreement.
That agreement allows for jets of 31-76 seats to total 75% of the mainline narrowbody fleet count (with some additional sub-limits within that amount.) It also states that turboprops seating 50+ count toward that limit, while turboprops seating fewer than 50 do not. By removing two seats from the 11 Dash 8-300s in the fleet, the company can add 11 more RJs.
That agreement allows for jets of 31-76 seats to total 75% of the mainline narrowbody fleet count (with some additional sub-limits within that amount.) It also states that turboprops seating 50+ count toward that limit, while turboprops seating fewer than 50 do not. By removing two seats from the 11 Dash 8-300s in the fleet, the company can add 11 more RJs.
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Piedmont transitioning away from the Dash-8
http://aviationtribune.com/airlines/...ion-jet-fleet/
"Piedmont Airlines is further expanding its fleet of Embraer 145 regional jets with accelerated deliveries of aircraft from American Airlines starting in early 2017."
"As a result of the accelerated jet expansion, Piedmont will begin to transition away from its traditional aircraft, the de Havilland DHC-8 turboprop. Piedmont expects to start retiring turboprop aircraft at a rate of about one aircraft per month."
"Piedmont Airlines is further expanding its fleet of Embraer 145 regional jets with accelerated deliveries of aircraft from American Airlines starting in early 2017."
"As a result of the accelerated jet expansion, Piedmont will begin to transition away from its traditional aircraft, the de Havilland DHC-8 turboprop. Piedmont expects to start retiring turboprop aircraft at a rate of about one aircraft per month."
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From the 2015 annual report:
As of December 31, 2015, the fleet of our wholly-owned regional subsidiaries consisted of the following aircraft:
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De Havilland Dash 8-100, 26
De Havilland Dash 8-300, 11
As of December 31, 2015, the fleet of our wholly-owned regional subsidiaries consisted of the following aircraft:
...
De Havilland Dash 8-100, 26
De Havilland Dash 8-300, 11
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http://aviationtribune.com/airlines/...ion-jet-fleet/
"Piedmont Airlines is further expanding its fleet of Embraer 145 regional jets with accelerated deliveries of aircraft from American Airlines starting in early 2017."
"As a result of the accelerated jet expansion, Piedmont will begin to transition away from its traditional aircraft, the de Havilland DHC-8 turboprop. Piedmont expects to start retiring turboprop aircraft at a rate of about one aircraft per month."
"Piedmont Airlines is further expanding its fleet of Embraer 145 regional jets with accelerated deliveries of aircraft from American Airlines starting in early 2017."
"As a result of the accelerated jet expansion, Piedmont will begin to transition away from its traditional aircraft, the de Havilland DHC-8 turboprop. Piedmont expects to start retiring turboprop aircraft at a rate of about one aircraft per month."
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The big question is: Will markets currently served by Dash-8's lose flight frequency once they are served by the ERJs? Four Dash-8 flights can carry a maximum of 148 passengers -- assuming that the flights are not weight restricted. Three ERJ flights can carry 150 passengers.
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How many airports are out there that cannot handle one of the smaller RJs? Pretty sure I've flown out of TYR airport on an ER4 on one of their two shorter runways (Not sure 4/22 was there when I was there)
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The big question is: Will markets currently served by Dash-8's lose flight frequency once they are served by the ERJs? Four Dash-8 flights can carry a maximum of 148 passengers -- assuming that the flights are not weight restricted. Three ERJ flights can carry 150 passengers.
I regularly end up on a Dash 8 for PHL-AVP or PHL-ABE. Both do have CRJ service, but both seem to have more frequencies with the Dash 8. And those Dash 8 flights always seem to be full.
While I certainly would much rather the ERJ, not at the expense of it taking away service.
There isn't a problem with either airport accepting larger aircraft. I know that AF1 has landed at ABE, and AF2 at AVP.
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The big question is: Will markets currently served by Dash-8's lose flight frequency once they are served by the ERJs? Four Dash-8 flights can carry a maximum of 148 passengers -- assuming that the flights are not weight restricted. Three ERJ flights can carry 150 passengers.
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