American Airlines Drops Photographer’s $20,000 Camera Kit
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American Airlines Drops Photographer’s $20,000 Camera Kit
http://petapixel.com/2016/06/23/amer...usands-damage/
From PetaPixel:
Imagine getting off a flight, walking over to get your (unwillingly) gate-checked case full of $20K of camera gear, and seeing a baggage handler walking up holding a few lenses and yelling “whose are these?” That’s exactly what happen to photographer Yosef Shidler of CJ Studios.
The incident took place on June 5th while Shidler was traveling to Detroit to cover a wedding. After being forced to gate-check his Pelican case, he walked out onto the ramp to see his case open and gear everywhere. “All of a sudden, the lady walks out holding on to my lenses asking ‘whose are these?'” he told us over the phone. “I was like ‘What the hell!?’ It’s unbelievable.”
Shidler claims his Pelican case was dropped from the loading ramp as it ascended, from a height of “about 7 or 8 feet.” The case burst open and camera bodies and lenses went rolling around on the tarmac. The story is going viral today thanks to a video Shidler captured immediately after the incident took place:
Story includes embedded video.
From PetaPixel:
Imagine getting off a flight, walking over to get your (unwillingly) gate-checked case full of $20K of camera gear, and seeing a baggage handler walking up holding a few lenses and yelling “whose are these?” That’s exactly what happen to photographer Yosef Shidler of CJ Studios.
The incident took place on June 5th while Shidler was traveling to Detroit to cover a wedding. After being forced to gate-check his Pelican case, he walked out onto the ramp to see his case open and gear everywhere. “All of a sudden, the lady walks out holding on to my lenses asking ‘whose are these?'” he told us over the phone. “I was like ‘What the hell!?’ It’s unbelievable.”
Shidler claims his Pelican case was dropped from the loading ramp as it ascended, from a height of “about 7 or 8 feet.” The case burst open and camera bodies and lenses went rolling around on the tarmac. The story is going viral today thanks to a video Shidler captured immediately after the incident took place:
Story includes embedded video.
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Actually he should have the equipment insured, and let his insurance company fight it out.
Glass and equipment depreciates, we all carry insurance on our equipment...and it is more expensive than a liability policy...
Pelican makes a nice case, and a 7 foot drop should not break it open...
Airlines have a limit on their claims, and it is printed on the ticket..
As for shooting a wedding that is way too much equipment, for Scott Kelby..
Glass and equipment depreciates, we all carry insurance on our equipment...and it is more expensive than a liability policy...
Pelican makes a nice case, and a 7 foot drop should not break it open...
Airlines have a limit on their claims, and it is printed on the ticket..
As for shooting a wedding that is way too much equipment, for Scott Kelby..
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"But an airline can damage $20,000 worth of gear and tell me to ‘call us about it and file a claim!?’ It’s unbelievable.”
What exactly does he expect - AA to take his word for it and unconditionally hand him $20k?
And anyone who would hand off $20k worth of gear to a third party without bothering to understand anything about liability (and limitations thereto) is simply a fool.
What exactly does he expect - AA to take his word for it and unconditionally hand him $20k?
And anyone who would hand off $20k worth of gear to a third party without bothering to understand anything about liability (and limitations thereto) is simply a fool.
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Actually he should have the equipment insured, and let his insurance company fight it out.
Glass and equipment depreciates, we all carry insurance on our equipment...and it is more expensive than a liability policy...
Pelican makes a nice case, and a 7 foot drop should not break it open...
Airlines have a limit on their claims, and it is printed on the ticket..
As for shooting a wedding that is way too much equipment, for Scott Kelby..
Glass and equipment depreciates, we all carry insurance on our equipment...and it is more expensive than a liability policy...
Pelican makes a nice case, and a 7 foot drop should not break it open...
Airlines have a limit on their claims, and it is printed on the ticket..
As for shooting a wedding that is way too much equipment, for Scott Kelby..
Actually he made some comments in the comments section in the original article implying he did not want to file an insurance claim as his premium might go up. My guess is he had inadequate or non existent insurance, which clearly a professional photographer should have.
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Ultimately, there is no divine right to bring any carry on into an aircraft cabin.
"Forced to gate check" implies a seat assignment in a high-numbered boarding group. The photog might have improved his chances of finding space for the Pelican bag by improving his boarding priority.
Lastly, if given no other option than to gate check, offloading himself and taking a later flight might have been a more prudent course of action.
"Forced to gate check" implies a seat assignment in a high-numbered boarding group. The photog might have improved his chances of finding space for the Pelican bag by improving his boarding priority.
Lastly, if given no other option than to gate check, offloading himself and taking a later flight might have been a more prudent course of action.
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When I was earning money from my photography I always had a floater policy covering equipment (as I did as an amateur underwater videographer). The insurance company would be responsible, but they could seek to recover from an airline. It was my responsibility to assure my Pelican cases or other baggage met the dimensions for carry-on baggage of each airline.
Unfortunately, American offers excess valuation insurance; if it is not taken out:
"Liability for loss, delay or damage to baggage is limited to $3,500." (Domestic travel.) As well,
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Link to relevant portion of Conditions of Carriage.
Cracking open a Pelican case? Very difficult!
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If I drop my camer, I would turn it in on my homeowners policy, Pelican Cases are made to keep the equipment secure,
Tonight I seen 60 lenses, they were all secure in the car, we could sign them out, by showing our DL. I can assure you Cannon had them insured.
The story sounds inflated, like they lost my Rolex, now pay me...
Tonight I seen 60 lenses, they were all secure in the car, we could sign them out, by showing our DL. I can assure you Cannon had them insured.
The story sounds inflated, like they lost my Rolex, now pay me...
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If I drop my camer, I would turn it in on my homeowners policy, Pelican Cases are made to keep the equipment secure,
Tonight I seen 60 lenses, they were all secure in the car, we could sign them out, by showing our DL. I can assure you Cannon had them insured.
The story sounds inflated, like they lost my Rolex, now pay me...
Tonight I seen 60 lenses, they were all secure in the car, we could sign them out, by showing our DL. I can assure you Cannon had them insured.
The story sounds inflated, like they lost my Rolex, now pay me...
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Fortunately for me now, I no longer travel with my large format camera, (4x5)
yes I know most people probably have no idea what I am saying, but when I use to travel with it, Pelican cases were my luggage of choice, had a insurance policy that covered travel. but in the 15 years plus, never had a problem with AA on checking it in, the cases are made very well, only problem I have had is when coming back to the states, it took for ever for the pressure to release, so customs could inspect the bag
yes I know most people probably have no idea what I am saying, but when I use to travel with it, Pelican cases were my luggage of choice, had a insurance policy that covered travel. but in the 15 years plus, never had a problem with AA on checking it in, the cases are made very well, only problem I have had is when coming back to the states, it took for ever for the pressure to release, so customs could inspect the bag
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There are some interesting comments in the original article including some by the photographer himself. Apparently the case was unlocked as well, which would be a contributory factor as to the scale of the mishap. He also does state that he does have insurance, but we don't know what type.
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This just doesn't sound right to me. $20K of camera equipment and he doesn't want to file a claim with his insurance carrier? Why does he have insurance? Was the case locked? From the quick glimpse we had of the case, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that it doesn't fit into the sizer. Should have been locked, secured with straps and checked, IMO. That's what I would have done.
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If you were a professional photographer and filing a claim for damage to business equipment, your carrier would deny it.
I also found this amusing. How exactly was he expecting to proceed, other than by filing a claim?
I also found this amusing. How exactly was he expecting to proceed, other than by filing a claim?