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REACTION, DISCUSSION: EQD, status tier, upgrade changes as of 6 Jun 2016

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REACTION, DISCUSSION: EQD, status tier, upgrade changes as of 6 Jun 2016

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AAdvantage Changes Announced 6 Jun 2016 - REACTION, DISCUSSION

This thread is dedicated to "REACTION, DISCUSSION" of the changes announced June 6, 2016.

For "JUST THE FACTS", please use JUST THE FACTS: EQD, status tier, upgrade changes as of 6 Jun 2016


Link to AAdvantage Program Updates page on aa.com.

Link to Gary Leff's "View from the Wing" blog article on these changes.

Link to Ben "Lucky" Schlappig's take in "One Mile at a Time" on View From the Boarding Area

Summary of changes:

aa.com: Unknown but intended: aa.com updated to show EQM, EQD and RDM/AW for your convenience when booking and in your account for keeping informed about your accruals.
Aug 2016:

Change to earning Award / Redeemable Miles to revenue based begins (see FT thread)

Bonus award miles "More Miles" for premium cabin discontinued

For travel beginning August 1, 2016

Earn award miles based on your ticket price and elite status on American-marketed flights.

You earn miles on the base fare plus carrier-imposed fees minus government-imposed taxes and fees. The more you spend (and the higher your elite status level) the more you’ll earn.
  • AAdvantage® member – 5 miles for every U.S. dollar
  • Gold member – 7 miles for every U.S. dollar (40% bonus)
  • Platinum member – 8 miles for every U.S. dollar (60% bonus)
  • Platinum Pro - 9 miles for every U.S. dollar
  • Executive Platinum member – 11 miles for every U.S. dollar (120% bonus)
On most flights marketed by partner airlines, you'll earn award miles based on a percentage of the flight distance and the fare class of your ticket. Rates will be available by July 15.

NOTE: this also pertains to "special fares", such as those purchased through AA Vacations. (not AA language)

1 Jan 2017:

Status earning to have EQM/EQS criteria AND "EQD" revenue spend requirement

In addition to the (same as 2016) required EQM or EQS, to earn status one will have to also earn "Elite Qualifying Dollars" / "EQD" spend credit as follows (during the calendar year):

"EQDs will be awarded based on:

Ticket price (base fare plus carrier-imposed fees, excluding any government-imposed taxes and fees) on American-marketed flights

EQD calculations will not include change fees and similar (premium seats, baggage, etc.) charges.

Q. Do checked bag fees, seat purchases, 500-mile upgrades or other products/service fees count toward earning award miles and EQDs?

No, only the base fare paid for your ticket including any carrier-imposed fees will count toward earning award miles and EQDs. Fees for other products or services will not be awarded miles or EQDs, including but not limited to the following: checked baggage fees, Admirals Club® memberships, Wi-Fi passes, in-flight food and beverage purchases, in-flight entertainment, unaccompanied minor fees, pet travel fees, 500-mile upgrades, mileage upgrade cash co-payments, Mileage Multiplier, BuyMiles, GiftMiles, ShareMiles or other mileage purchases, ticket change fees, ticketing fees, same-day confirmed flight change or standby fees and service charges. (Thanks to ty97.)
Flights marketed by oneworld® carriers and Alaska Airlines will earn EQDs based on a percentage of the flight distance and the fare class purchased (as may "special fares" - not AA language)

NOTE: EQD offset may be earned by spend on Barclaycard AAdvantage Aviator Red and Silver cards (added language not from AA)

With the addition of EQDs, we’ll remove the rule that 4 segments must be traveled on American or American Eagle during the qualifying year to receive elite status."
New EQD requirement
  • Gold - $3,000
  • Platinum - $6,000
  • Platinum Pro - $9,000 (beginning 1/1/17)
  • Executive Platinum - $12,000
Elimination of four AA marketed EQS requirement

NOTE: Concierge Key is treated as a higher status tier than Executive Platinum for upgrade Priority, but is not otherwise an AAdvantage status tier.

Change from three status tiers to four - new 75K "Platinum Pro" added

"In 2017 you can start earning toward a new level, Platinum Pro, with benefits like:
  • Complimentary upgrades on flights in 500-mile upgrade markets
  • Earn 9 award miles/U.S. dollar (80% bonus)
  • 2 free checked bags
  • oneworld® Sapphire status
  • 72 hour upgrade window
NOTE: Platinum upgrade window goes from 72 to 48 hours; Concierge Key upgrade window is 120 hours.


February 2017

Introduction of highly restricted AA Basic Economy fares. FT link.

These will accrue 0.5 EQM, 0.5 EQS, will not permit rollaboard size / overhead baggage (only one personal item) unless you have status, no upgrades permitted, etc.


"Late" 2017:

Change to upgrade priority to EQD-based priority

"The way your upgrade request is prioritized will change later in 2017. You’ll be listed according to your elite status level followed by the number of EQDs earned in the last 12 months."
EP, and within EP by EQD spend in last 12 month period; PlatPro, ditto, and on to Platinum, Gold. For both upgrade request and airport list if request goes to airport list.

Executive Platinums able to upgrade MC / coach award flight (On flights 500 mile upgrades are usable, courtesy upgrades; priority within EP by last 12 month EQD spend).

"Starting later in 2017, Executive Platinum members can use their complimentary 500-mile upgrade benefits on AAdvantage® award tickets for travel on American from Main Cabin to the next class."

Peripheral issues:

AA Vacations: AA Vacations packages (like partner airline tickets) will earn EQD, EQM, and RDM/AW based on the distance flown as determined by the fare class purchased. This is in accordance with the "Special Fares" section of the new EQD earnings pages, and confirmed here

EQD requirements will apply to non-US residents as well as US as currently exists

EQD requirements can be partially offset by spend on Barclaycard AAdvantage Aviator Red or Silver cards.

Partners (AS and oneworld): accrual of EQM as reflected on charts on aa.com; EQD credit to be announced (15 Jul 2016)

Status: AA has no current plans to add "Lifetime Platinum Pro" status.


Resources:

GLOSSARY:

EQD: Elite Qualifying Dollars (base fare + carrier imposed fees, - government imposed taxes and fees)

EQM: Elite Qualifying Miles (accrual depends on fare basis, airline and miles flown)

EQS: Elite Qualifying Segments (discrete qualifying segment credited by AA)

Platinum Pro: new tier beginning 1/1/17 requiring $9,000 EQD and 75,000 EQM or 90 EQS in one calendar year

For links to new threads about these and other recent changes affecting AA flyers, see below.

Link to AAdvantage Program Updates page on aa.com.

Link to Gary Leff's "View from the Wing" blog article on these changes.

Link to Ben "Lucky" Schlappig's take in "One Mile at a Time" on View From the Boarding Area

Link to Andy's take on the Award Miles earning changes on View From the Boarding Area.

Links to useful threads:

GUIDE: Earning EQD / Elite Qualifying Dollars on AA and partner airlines (2017 on)

GUIDE: Earning AA Elite Qualifying Miles / EQM on AA, oneworld, partner airlines 2017

GUIDE: Earning AA Award / Redeemable Miles / RDM on AA, partners 1 Aug 2016

HELP DESK: Elite Qualifying EQD, EQM & Award / RDM Calculations & Planning 2017

AAdvantage® earning estimates - FAQ (aa.com)
(aa.com "AAdvantage program updates" - link)

Link to FT thread: What are AA Platinum Pro Benefits? Are they worth it? (master thread)

Link to FT thread: oneworld not requiring connecting protection or interline baggage 1 Jun 2016

Link to ARCHIVE: "Speculation about upcoming changes tba 6 Jun 2016"

Updated 6 Jan 2012 - JDiver


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Old Sep 30, 16, 7:29 pm
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Need to book a work trip, coach, ORD-LAX RT. AA PLAT.
Before I would have booked AA, now I want to hear people's opinions on where to go to. No status on any other airline.
Or, maybe, book on AA, and then after selecting MCE, switch FF# to another program, maybe Etihad?

2017 I am going to southwest to get CP
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Old Oct 1, 16, 9:21 am
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Originally Posted by ORD-TGU View Post
Need to book a work trip, coach, ORD-LAX RT. AA PLAT.
Before I would have booked AA, now I want to hear people's opinions on where to go to. No status on any other airline.
Or, maybe, book on AA, and then after selecting MCE, switch FF# to another program, maybe Etihad?

2017 I am going to southwest to get CP
AA policy actually forbids using your AA status to gain something on a flight and then switching the earning to a different program. Whether there would be any repercussions in reality is hard to say, but it could happen.

As to the more general question, there's a thread for helping choose a OW FFP.
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Old Oct 1, 16, 9:29 am
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Originally Posted by SpammersAreScum View Post
As to the more general question, there's a thread for helping choose a OW FFP.
Which will likely leave one more confused than they were before they visited that thread...

Regards
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Old Oct 1, 16, 10:46 am
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Originally Posted by SpammersAreScum View Post
AA policy actually forbids using your AA status to gain something on a flight and then switching the earning to a different program. Whether there would be any repercussions in reality is hard to say, but it could happen.

As to the more general question, there's a thread for helping choose a OW FFP.
Uhh... So if I buy a ticket through BA via AA.com, and decide to credit to BA because AA's programme is rubbish, but use my PLT status to access the BA lounge at LHR, then my access to said lounge is forbidden?!?

I think the only thing that's forbidden would be my crediting the flights to both BA and AA. (FWIW, you can't even if you wanted to.) I fail to see how using your status on one OW carrier to access benefits in OW is forbidden.
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Old Oct 1, 16, 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by ORD-TGU View Post
Need to book a work trip, coach, ORD-LAX RT. AA PLAT.
Before I would have booked AA, now I want to hear people's opinions on where to go to. No status on any other airline.
Or, maybe, book on AA, and then after selecting MCE, switch FF# to another program, maybe Etihad?
While you still have your PLT status, I'd just continue to use AA. As mentioned, in theory you're not supposed to be able to get your PLT benefits while crediting to another program, so just enjoy your status for a few more months.

At some point next year, let AA know that you've switched to WN in the hopes that eventually they'll take the hint and try to improve the program to the point that it's a positive differentiator again.
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Old Oct 1, 16, 1:45 pm
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Originally Posted by uxb View Post
Uhh... So if I buy a ticket through BA via AA.com, and decide to credit to BA because AA's programme is rubbish, but use my PLT status to access the BA lounge at LHR, then my access to said lounge is forbidden?!?

I think the only thing that's forbidden would be my crediting the flights to both BA and AA. (FWIW, you can't even if you wanted to.) I fail to see how using your status on one OW carrier to access benefits in OW is forbidden.
The terms at https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...conditions.jsp do indeed say

Originally Posted by AA
You must include your AAdvantage number in your reservation record for any flight on which you wish to use AAdvantage elite status benefits.
plus

Originally Posted by AA
■You cannot accrue partner airline miles with your partner frequent flyer number if you have already used your AAdvantage number to obtain AAdvantage program benefits such as First or Business Class upgrades, baggage fee waivers or complimentary access to Preferred/Main Cabin Extra seats. Additionally, you cannot redeem partner airline miles with your partner frequent flyer number and obtain AAdvantage program benefits such as priority boarding and access to preferred seats.
which does seem pretty clear that if wanting to use AAdvantage benefits, you need to credit to AA

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Old Oct 1, 16, 2:21 pm
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Originally Posted by ORD-TGU View Post
Or, maybe, book on AA, and then after selecting MCE, switch FF# to another program, maybe Etihad?
Not allowed.

Originally Posted by uxb View Post
Uhh... So if I buy a ticket through BA via AA.com, and decide to credit to BA because AA's programme is rubbish, but use my PLT status to access the BA lounge at LHR, then my access to said lounge is forbidden?!? :
Not a problem.
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Old Oct 1, 16, 8:20 pm
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When can we expect to know if the AAdvantage changes have or not hurt their bottom line?
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Old Oct 1, 16, 9:01 pm
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eek! Did not know it was not allowed. Have never done it before, no reason to, but now know it is a no no.
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Old Oct 1, 16, 10:34 pm
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When can we expect to know if the AAdvantage changes have or not hurt their bottom line?
My guess is never. Airlines typically don't make that kind of information public.
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Old Oct 2, 16, 1:03 am
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Is MCE still freely able to be selected at T-24?

If so, changing at check-in would not involve using AA (or partner's) status to obtain a benefit. Changing a day before would, under AA's rules, require that you change to a non-MCE seat or "pay up"

Please dissect without wandering.

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Old Oct 2, 16, 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble View Post
The terms at https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...conditions.jsp do indeed say



plus



which does seem pretty clear that if wanting to use AAdvantage benefits, you need to credit to AA
That's all great, but then why does BA allow you to put in your AA number to get benefits, but credit the flight to BA? Still
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Old Oct 2, 16, 3:03 pm
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That's all great, but then why does BA allow you to put in your AA number to get benefits, but credit the flight to BA? Still
The AA terms prohibit it, but this does not mean that there is enforcement of it by other companies
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Old Oct 2, 16, 3:32 pm
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Originally Posted by uxb View Post
That's all great, but then why does BA allow you to put in your AA number to get benefits, but credit the flight to BA? Still
I'm not sure what you're suggesting here. In order to credit to BA, you need to put in the BA number before the flight. So the only benefit might be free seat selection? Put in AA #; pick seat; put in BA #.
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Old Oct 2, 16, 3:54 pm
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Originally Posted by SpammersAreScum View Post
I'm not sure what you're suggesting here. In order to credit to BA, you need to put in the BA number before the flight. So the only benefit might be free seat selection? Put in AA #; pick seat; put in BA #.
BA offers you the ability to credit to BA and add your other FF number for elite benefits.
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