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Aircraft-specific threads exist (see below in Wikipost) when you know what configuration and cabin you're in and have questions about it. When you're unsure of your flight's configuration or have questions about multiple flights, this new help desk thread will cater to that type of Help-Desk-style question.
Please help fill in the blanks by sharing what you learn.
See Post #2 for a listing of all AA aircraft with full lie-flat seats.
Another most useful tool is the New American Fleet Tracker, here Though it began with the purpose of tracking LAA, LUS or New AA paint color schemes transition, more useful information is included (e.g. AVOD, seating configuration, etc.)
A basic listing of long haul aircraft and Business seats from econometrics, accurate as 13 45J are reduced to 35J:
The 2019 Fleet Plan, released 24 Jan 2019, may be read here.
The 2018 Fleet Plan, released 23 Jan 2018, may be read here.
The 2017 Fleet Plan, released 27 Jan 2017, may be read here.
Below is a list of current aircraft-specific threads which contain details about aircraft seats and configurations.
NOTE: The “Legacy US” and “Legacy AA” distinctions are becoming blurred with Project Oasis and fleet additions. Expect this Wiki will be edited to reflect that at some time.
Merged AA and LAA (Legacy American Airlines) Aircraft
Airbus A319-100 – 319
Link to Aircraft guide: Which Airbus A321? (including “321”, “32B”, A321neo)
Airbus A321-200 – “321” (The AA 321s are all A321-200 with "Sharklets" wingtip devices)
Airbus A321neo / 32Q (delivered February 2019)
Airbus A321XLR:
Link to Aircraft Guide: Which 738 / 737-800 v. or 7M8 / 737 MAX 8?
Boeing 737-800 – 738 and 737 MAX 8 / 7M8
Boeing 757-200 – 752 / 75L
Boeing 767-300 – 763 (25 late 2017)
Link to Aircraft guide: Which 777-200ER / 772 / 777? (2019 on)
Boeing 777-223ER – 777 / 772 (47 total in fleet)
Boeing 777-300ER – 77W (20 total)
Boeing 787-8 – 788
Boeing 787-9 - 789 (22 ordered)
McDonnell Douglas MD-80 – S80 (retiring August 2019)
LUS (Legacy US Airways) (merged AA aircraft listed above)
Airbus A319-100 – 319
Airbus A320-200 – 320
Airbus A321-200 – 321 ("321" are A321-200 with no "Sharklets" wingtip devices)
Airbus A330-200 – 332 (15 in fleet)
Airbus A330-300 – 333 (The 9 P&W powered A330 are being retained through 2020)
Airbus A350 (total 22 ordered - cancelled) (coming2017 2018)
Boeing 757-200 – 752
American Eagle / Regional:
Miscellaneous related threads:
Historical Notes:
America West Airlines organized in February 1981 and began operations August 1, 1983. The airline grew rapidly, included flights to Hawaii and Japan and operated aircraft as large as the Boeing 747-200 (4 leased in from KLM). It's first bankruptcy filing was in 1991, and after reorganization on 1994, hired W. Douglas Parker in June 1995 as Senior Vice President and CFO. IN 2001, he was elected Chairman, President and CEO in September 2001
US Airways' origin was in 1939 as All American Aviation, which changed its name in 1939 to All American Airways and again in 1949 to Allegheny Airlines. In 1979, with the passing of the Airline Deregulation Act and Allegheny Airlines became US Air. Allegheny took Lake Central Airlines in 1968 and Mohawk Airlines in 1972.
US further acquired Piedmont Airlines and Pacific Southwest Airlines in 1989, established the US Airways Shuttle after buying the remains of Trump Shuttle and was taken over by America West Airlines in a reverse takeover merger in 2005; the airline, under the direction of HP CEO Doug Parker and his team, rebranded as US Airways.
The new US Airways acquired American Airlines in a reverse takeover in 2013, rebranding as American Airlines. The Federal Aviation Administration granted a single operating certificate (SOC) for US Airways and American Airlines on April 8, 2015.
American Airlines began when when Robertson Aircraft Corporation and Colonial Air Transport merged in 1929 into holding company The Aviation Corporation. In 1930 this became an operating company branded American Airways. In 1934 it was renamed American Airlines. After filing bankruptcy in 2011, it was taken over by US Airways in 2013, which chose to continue with the American Airlines brand. The Parker leadership team continues to administer the new American Airlines.
American Airlines included AirCal, American Inter-Island Airlines, American Overseas Airways, Colonial Air Transport, Reno Air, Robertson Aircraft Corporation, Trans Caribbean Airways, Trans World Airlines.
US Airways included Allegheny Airlines, America West Airlines, Empire Airlines, Lake Central Airlines, MetroJet, Mohawk Airlines, Pacific Southwest Airlines (PSA), Piedmont Airlines, Trump Shuttle and USAir.
Link to Wikipedia page on America West Airlines.
Link to Wikipedia page on US Airways
Link to Wikipedia page on American Airlines
Link to archived 2017 posts
Link to the archived 2015 posts.
Please help fill in the blanks by sharing what you learn.
See Post #2 for a listing of all AA aircraft with full lie-flat seats.
Another most useful tool is the New American Fleet Tracker, here Though it began with the purpose of tracking LAA, LUS or New AA paint color schemes transition, more useful information is included (e.g. AVOD, seating configuration, etc.)
This site was created and is maintained by enthusiasts of AMERICAN AIRLINES and provides only publicly available information. It is not sponsored or supported by AMERICAN AIRLINES or AMERICAN AIRLINES GROUP in anyway.
This now will leave AA's INTL fleet with:
42 planes with BE Super Diamond reverse herringbone seats (14 789, 28 772 - but 42 more 787s ordered)
39 “ “ Zodiac forward/reverse seats (20 788, 19 772)
24 “ “ Zodiac Envoy seats (A330 fleet)
24 “ “ Thompson Vantage seats (767)
24 “ “ BE Diamond seats (757)
20 “ “ Cirrus reverse herringbone seats (77W)
42 planes with BE Super Diamond reverse herringbone seats (14 789, 28 772 - but 42 more 787s ordered)
39 “ “ Zodiac forward/reverse seats (20 788, 19 772)
24 “ “ Zodiac Envoy seats (A330 fleet)
24 “ “ Thompson Vantage seats (767)
24 “ “ BE Diamond seats (757)
20 “ “ Cirrus reverse herringbone seats (77W)
The 2018 Fleet Plan, released 23 Jan 2018, may be read here.
The 2017 Fleet Plan, released 27 Jan 2017, may be read here.
Below is a list of current aircraft-specific threads which contain details about aircraft seats and configurations.
NOTE: The “Legacy US” and “Legacy AA” distinctions are becoming blurred with Project Oasis and fleet additions. Expect this Wiki will be edited to reflect that at some time.
Merged AA and LAA (Legacy American Airlines) Aircraft
Airbus A319-100 – 319
Link to Aircraft guide: Which Airbus A321? (including “321”, “32B”, A321neo)
Airbus A321-200 – “321” (The AA 321s are all A321-200 with "Sharklets" wingtip devices)
- LAA 2-class Airbus 321S / A321S (32B, Sharklets) in service Aug 2014 (consolidated)
- Best Business / First seat on LAA transcon Airbus A321 / A321T / "32B" (consolidated)
- LAA Airbus A321 Transcon / 321T / "32B" 3 class (consolidated)
- Best Economy / MCE seat on LAA transcon Airbus A321 / A321T / "32B" (consolidated)
- Best Economy / MCE seat on 2-class LAA Airbus A321 / A321S / "32B" (consolidated)
- AA to install new seats in 737-800s and A321s but add more to Main Cabin
Airbus A321neo / 32Q (delivered February 2019)
- AA just received first Airbus A321neo /32Q 1 Feb 2019.
- A321neo / 32Q / A321-253NX Rockwell Collins MiQ First / Business seats
- AA new A321neo / 32Q / A321-253NX RC Meridian Main Cabin / MCE seats
Airbus A321XLR:
Link to Aircraft Guide: Which 738 / 737-800 v. or 7M8 / 737 MAX 8?
Boeing 737-800 – 738 and 737 MAX 8 / 7M8
- Aircraft Guide: How do I know which 737-800 version or 737-MAX 8?
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...019-21-a.html"
- LAA 738 / 737-800 Best MCE / Main Cabin Extra / Exit Seats? (consolidated)
- LAA: 738 / 737-800 Domestic First / International Business seat (consolidated)
- AA to install new seats in 737-800s and A321s but add more to Main Cabin
- Aircraft Guide: AA Boeing 737 MAX 8 / 7M8 First / Business Seats, Etc.
- Aircraft Guide: AA Boeing 737 MAX 8 / 7M8 Main Cabin & MCE Seats,
- 2018-19 737 MAX 8 crashes and effects on AA 737 MAX 8s
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...7m8-oasis.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...dian-seat.html
Boeing 757-200 – 752 / 75L
- 75L / 757 B/E Diamond seat business class (9/16) (master thd)
- LAA 752 / 757-200 Best MCE / Main Cabin Extra seats (consolidated)
- LUS 757-200 used in Hawaii service >2017: seats, etc.
Boeing 767-300 – 763 (25 late 2017)
- LAA 763 / 767-300ER Best MCE / Main Cabin Extra / Economy Seats (consolidated)
- LAA 763 / 767-300 Economy / coach Row 17 crew rest "superseat" (consolidated)
- Renovated LAA 767-300 / 763 "CIP" with New Business Class Apr 2014 (Discussion)
- LAA 763 / 767 CIP New (2014) Business Seat Map, Best Seat / Seats (consolidated)
- AA Boeing 763 / 767-300ER Technology (IFE, power, WiFi, etc.)
Link to Aircraft guide: Which 777-200ER / 772 / 777? (2019 on)
Boeing 777-223ER – 777 / 772 (47 total in fleet)
- Aircraft guide: Which 777-200ER / 772 / 777 on aa.com? (As of 11 Dec 2018)
- Best Business Seat 777-200 “777” 37J Super Diamond seat
- Best Business Seat 777-200 “777” C37 Zodiac (Aft & Fwd) Business
- Boeing 777-200ER / 777 Best Premium Economy Seats
- Best Economy Seat 777-200 “777” C37 Zodiac Main Cabin & Extra / MCE
- Best Economy Seat 777-200 “777" 37J Super Diamond Economy / Main Cabin & Extra MCE
Boeing 777-300ER – 77W (20 total)
- New 777-300 / 77W Config with Premium Economy as of Dec 2017
- Best 77W / 777-300ER Business and First Class / F & J seats (consolidated)
- 77W / 777-300ER Best Economy and Main Cabin Extra / MCE seat (consolidated)
Boeing 787-8 – 788
- 787-8 / 788 Dreamliner Best / Reviews Business Class Seats (consolidated)
- 787-8 / 788 Dreamliner MCE and Economy / Coach / Seating (consolidated)
- 787-8 / 788 Dreamliner routes / routing (consolidated)
- AA's first Boeing 787 / 787-8 arv. Jan 2015; discussion, deliveries
Boeing 787-9 - 789 (22 ordered)
- Boeing 787-9 (789): Discussion of 787-9 coming to AA 2016
- Boeing 787-9 / 789 (B/E Super Diamond): Best Business Seat? (master thd)
- Boeing 787-9 / 789: Best Premium Economy & Coach & MCE Seats? (master thd)
McDonnell Douglas MD-80 – S80 (retiring August 2019)
- Best MCE / Main Cabin Extra seats on the MD80 / Super 80 / S80 / M80 (consolidated)
- MD-80 / Super 80 best seats (consolidated)
LUS (Legacy US Airways) (merged AA aircraft listed above)
Airbus A319-100 – 319
Airbus A320-200 – 320
- LUS A320 / 320 – First class seating, best seats (consolidated)
- AA Fleet: Retrofit / CIP of Legacy US A320 / A321 interiors?
Airbus A321-200 – 321 ("321" are A321-200 with no "Sharklets" wingtip devices)
- Airbus A321 (legacy US A321-200) (master thread)
- LUS: What's the latest with "new" Rows 22-23 on the LUS A321?
- AA Fleet: Retrofit / CIP of Legacy US A320 / A321 interiors?
- AA to install new seats in 737-800s and A321s but add more to Main Cabin
Airbus A330-200 – 332 (15 in fleet)
- AA (LUS) A330-200 / 332 [master thread]
- LUS A330 "Envoy" Lie Flat All Aisle Access Business Seats (master thread)
Airbus A330-300 – 333 (The 9 P&W powered A330 are being retained through 2020)
- AA (LUS) A330-300 [master thread]
- LUS A330 "Envoy" Lie Flat All Aisle Access Business Seats (master thread)
Airbus A350 (total 22 ordered - cancelled) (coming
Boeing 757-200 – 752
- LUS 757 Main Cabin Extra Retrofits Underway (2016-2017)
- LUS Boeing 757-200 (Hawaii version) [master thread] (returned to lessor in 2018, some 75E converted to this layout)
- LUS 757-200 ETOPS "East" (transatlantic version) [master thread] (none in this configuration left as of 4 Dec 2017)
American Eagle / Regional:
- American Eagle ERJ-140 / ERD Seating Advice / Best Seats (consolidated)
- American Eagle ERJ-145 / ER4 Seating Advice / Best Seats (consolidated)
- AA - Compass E75 / ERJ-175 seating and discussion (consolidated)
- Bombardier CRJ-700 / CR7 New Configuration with First Class & Rollout (consolidated)
- New LUS CRJ-900 / CR9 w/ AA Livery / Interior / MCE
- LUS née US Airways Bombardier CRJ 900 / CR9
- LUS Bombardier DHC-8-300 turboprop
Miscellaneous related threads:
- AA 2017 Fleet Plan
- AA Aircraft Technical, Mechanical etc. "ask" "how it works" (master thread)
- Free WiFi Streaming IFE on Personal Devices (with App) 08/2016, expansion
Historical Notes:
America West Airlines organized in February 1981 and began operations August 1, 1983. The airline grew rapidly, included flights to Hawaii and Japan and operated aircraft as large as the Boeing 747-200 (4 leased in from KLM). It's first bankruptcy filing was in 1991, and after reorganization on 1994, hired W. Douglas Parker in June 1995 as Senior Vice President and CFO. IN 2001, he was elected Chairman, President and CEO in September 2001
US Airways' origin was in 1939 as All American Aviation, which changed its name in 1939 to All American Airways and again in 1949 to Allegheny Airlines. In 1979, with the passing of the Airline Deregulation Act and Allegheny Airlines became US Air. Allegheny took Lake Central Airlines in 1968 and Mohawk Airlines in 1972.
US further acquired Piedmont Airlines and Pacific Southwest Airlines in 1989, established the US Airways Shuttle after buying the remains of Trump Shuttle and was taken over by America West Airlines in a reverse takeover merger in 2005; the airline, under the direction of HP CEO Doug Parker and his team, rebranded as US Airways.
The new US Airways acquired American Airlines in a reverse takeover in 2013, rebranding as American Airlines. The Federal Aviation Administration granted a single operating certificate (SOC) for US Airways and American Airlines on April 8, 2015.
American Airlines began when when Robertson Aircraft Corporation and Colonial Air Transport merged in 1929 into holding company The Aviation Corporation. In 1930 this became an operating company branded American Airways. In 1934 it was renamed American Airlines. After filing bankruptcy in 2011, it was taken over by US Airways in 2013, which chose to continue with the American Airlines brand. The Parker leadership team continues to administer the new American Airlines.
American Airlines included AirCal, American Inter-Island Airlines, American Overseas Airways, Colonial Air Transport, Reno Air, Robertson Aircraft Corporation, Trans Caribbean Airways, Trans World Airlines.
US Airways included Allegheny Airlines, America West Airlines, Empire Airlines, Lake Central Airlines, MetroJet, Mohawk Airlines, Pacific Southwest Airlines (PSA), Piedmont Airlines, Trump Shuttle and USAir.
Link to Wikipedia page on America West Airlines.
Link to Wikipedia page on US Airways
Link to Wikipedia page on American Airlines
Link to archived 2017 posts
Link to the archived 2015 posts.
HELP DESK: General questions re aircraft equipment, fleet, seats, IFE, etc.
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HELP DESK: General questions re aircraft equipment, fleet, seats, IFE, etc.
With the merger complete, AA are now left with a mish-mash of equipment types and configurations. The AA forum has many threads discussing specific equipment types, but often members are unsure which configuration their flights will have, or have questions about multiple flights at once.
This new help desk thread will cater to that type of Help-Desk-style question. Please see the Wiki for threads on specific aircraft types.
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This new help desk thread will cater to that type of Help-Desk-style question. Please see the Wiki for threads on specific aircraft types.
~AAdvantage moderation team
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Aircraft offering horizontally flat-lying seats
Aircraft offering fully horizontal lie flat seats in Business / First.
See links to threads on specific aircraft and seating in Wikipost, above.
NOTE: All* widebody aircraft are being fitted with Premium Economy seating using the Rockwell Collins MiQ seat. In some instances, the required seat reduction is from Main Cabin Extra. All AA widebody aircraft and international 757-200s offer lie flat Business seats, other than US-Hawaii 757s offering standard recliners. All lie flat seats other than the 75L and 321T Diamond Parallel Seats are all aisle seat access.
Aircraft type - timetable designation - seat type (notes)
Link - The AA Cargo Site offers Widebody schedules
Link - The (unofficial) AA Fleet Site offers configuration by individual aircraft registration (“tail”) number
Initial booking results on aa.com reveal aircraft types operated on routes
Note: Airbus A321-200 aircraft will all be refitted y 2021 with Rockwell Collins MiQ seats as used in Premium Economy (but without foot peg / rests or seatback IFE) at 37” pitch in C/F, and the new ultra slimline Rockwell Collins Meridian seats at 33” MCE, 30” Main Cabin. Not lie flat.
[All Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft Rockwell Collins MiQ seats as used in Premium Economy (but without foot peg / rests or seatback IFE) at 37” pitch in C/F, and the new ultra slimline Rockwell Collins Meridian seats at 33” MCE, 30” Main Cabin. All 737-800 aircraft will be refitted to this seat by 2021 as well. Not lie flat.
See links to threads on specific aircraft and seating in Wikipost, above.
NOTE: All* widebody aircraft are being fitted with Premium Economy seating using the Rockwell Collins MiQ seat. In some instances, the required seat reduction is from Main Cabin Extra. All AA widebody aircraft and international 757-200s offer lie flat Business seats, other than US-Hawaii 757s offering standard recliners. All lie flat seats other than the 75L and 321T Diamond Parallel Seats are all aisle seat access.
Aircraft type - timetable designation - seat type (notes)
- Airbus A330-300 / 333: Zodiac - Sicma "Envoy Suite" (*No Premium Economy - time to retire extended)
- Airbus A330-200 / 332: Zodiac - Sicma "Envoy Suite"
- Airbus A321-200 Transcontinental / 321T (aa.com lists it and other A321s with Sharklets wingtip devices as “32B”): Zodiac Sicma solo suite (F - as 77W J seat); B/E Aerospace Diamond Parallel seat pairs (J) (NOTE: aa.com lists A321T and reclining seat AA A321s with “Sharklets” wingtip devices variants as “32B” on aa.com; US non-Sharklets A321s are listed as “321”)
- Boeing 787-9/ 789: B/E Aerospace Super Diamond Solo (reverse herringbone, face forward)
- Boeing 787-8 / 788: Zodiac Concept D Business Suite (face fore and aft)
- Boeing 777-300ER / 77W: Zodiac Flagship Suite (F); Zodiac "Cirrus" Business Suite (J)
- Boeing 777-200ER/ 772: B/E Aerospace Super Diamond Solo (reverse herringbone, face forward)
- Boeing 777-200ER/ 772: Zodiac Concept D Business Suite (face fore and aft)
- Boeing 767-300ER / 763: Thompson Vantage 1 - 2 - 1 layout all aisle access
- Boeing 757-200 International / 75L: B/E Aerospace Diamond Parallel 2 x 2 paired seats
Link - The AA Cargo Site offers Widebody schedules
Link - The (unofficial) AA Fleet Site offers configuration by individual aircraft registration (“tail”) number
Initial booking results on aa.com reveal aircraft types operated on routes
Note: Airbus A321-200 aircraft will all be refitted y 2021 with Rockwell Collins MiQ seats as used in Premium Economy (but without foot peg / rests or seatback IFE) at 37” pitch in C/F, and the new ultra slimline Rockwell Collins Meridian seats at 33” MCE, 30” Main Cabin. Not lie flat.
[All Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft Rockwell Collins MiQ seats as used in Premium Economy (but without foot peg / rests or seatback IFE) at 37” pitch in C/F, and the new ultra slimline Rockwell Collins Meridian seats at 33” MCE, 30” Main Cabin. All 737-800 aircraft will be refitted to this seat by 2021 as well. Not lie flat.
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