CX vs JL F and J class question
#17
Join Date: Dec 2016
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can't comment on JAL, but flew CX a few times. Their J seat is really comfy, but not a fan of their food cart at all. And CX F looks to just be slightly larger J class seats and not worth the extra money. The HKG lounge is really nice though.
#18
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This is not true. CX F is far more than just a better seat. Plus, access to F lounge at HKG is way better than J lounge, IMO. If you're EXP then disregard lounge consideration as you get it either way.
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I don't know whether that works, since it'll only be a 2-cabin flight. maybe others know, or just call and find out. it would definitely work if it was F on JFK-SFO or JFK-LAX (and then just book a separate award from JFK-ORD).
#20
Join Date: Sep 2015
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To be honest I prefer Pier business lounge over their F lounge. Better food options plus speciallity noodle bar on order. Not a big fan of fix Menu offered in Pier F.
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#22
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CX F seats may look outdated, but for seats, I care far more about how they feel and work. I sleep better on CX F than I do at home. Also, the temps that the JL F cabin is kept at always result in my sweating when I'm sleeping. On CX, they'll adjust the temp for you. And if you're the only F pax (as I am from time to time), they'll set the temp at whatever you request. (I usually have them set it at 19 or less when I'm sleeping.)
#23
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If you value comfort of the seat / bed, CX wins.
If you want good foods and good wine, JL wins.
If you want good services - then it depends on how you define it - CX FAs do not bow to you and would not be submissive. They do not watch you to anticipate your needs but they would rush to your side within seconds you press the call button which on CX F is truly meant to be used to summon the services.
JL FAs would be oh so submissive (but generally more to the male passengers and especially to the Japanese male passengers, and often neglect the female passengers) and being around the cabin far far more often.
So if you prefer to be left alone and when you want service you summon it - then CX works a lot better.
If you want to be constantly looked after, then JL (or SQ for that matter) would better suit you.
Personally I dont like the JL seat set up, nor the cabin temperature. Much prefer the openness of the CX seat set up and the cabin temperature. However the CX foods are mediocre. But since the quality of sleep is the most important to me, plus I dont like the need to transit in TYO, hence always pick CX over JL.
If you want good foods and good wine, JL wins.
If you want good services - then it depends on how you define it - CX FAs do not bow to you and would not be submissive. They do not watch you to anticipate your needs but they would rush to your side within seconds you press the call button which on CX F is truly meant to be used to summon the services.
JL FAs would be oh so submissive (but generally more to the male passengers and especially to the Japanese male passengers, and often neglect the female passengers) and being around the cabin far far more often.
So if you prefer to be left alone and when you want service you summon it - then CX works a lot better.
If you want to be constantly looked after, then JL (or SQ for that matter) would better suit you.
Personally I dont like the JL seat set up, nor the cabin temperature. Much prefer the openness of the CX seat set up and the cabin temperature. However the CX foods are mediocre. But since the quality of sleep is the most important to me, plus I dont like the need to transit in TYO, hence always pick CX over JL.
#25
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I was booked on CX until they dropped my flight and rescheduled me on an early AM departure. Not good while on vacation so I changed to JL leaving at night. So its CX going there and JL on the return trip. Get to enjoy both, same as last year.
I do like the food better on JL , Yet 2A on Cathay is always a favorite space to occupy.
I do like the food better on JL , Yet 2A on Cathay is always a favorite space to occupy.
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http://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders...-temperature#1
#28
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Took CX F in July LAX-HKG and HKG-BKK (747). For return took JL BKK-NRT (in J 789 I think) and NRT-LAX in F.
No comparison for me. CX won in every category. I muched preferred the food on CX. The JL service was spectacular however I still preferred CX. For the record, cabin temp was just fine.
No comparison for me. CX won in every category. I muched preferred the food on CX. The JL service was spectacular however I still preferred CX. For the record, cabin temp was just fine.
#29
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I've done both CX and JL F and J....for me its JL every time. Especially in J. I like the "suites" on JL even if it isn't 1-2-1.
JL F also was a clear winner for me NRT-JFK on the 777-300. I only flew CX F because I keep reading threads like these, so I wanted to try it. Afterwards I realized I should have used my miles on another JL award. So YMMV.
JL F also was a clear winner for me NRT-JFK on the 777-300. I only flew CX F because I keep reading threads like these, so I wanted to try it. Afterwards I realized I should have used my miles on another JL award. So YMMV.
#30
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Our most recent trip to Indonesia we flew outbound JL and return CX, mostly because I hadn't flow JL in years and wanted to see what it was like. I personally like CX product better, not because it's more comfortable. It isn't, but I prefer the light colors and openness compared to the JL cabin. On food, service, and sleep comfort, I think JL was superior. Though I was worried about it in light of all the comments, JL cabin temp was not a problem. HKG is superior to NRT for transit and CX lounges are far better than JL. On the whole, I like CX better but each has its advantages.