AA J or CX J on 77W?
Feb 2, 2016, 12:01 pm
#2
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1) Which is more convenient for you, connection wise.
2) Whether or not you want WiFi on the flight.
Beyond that, the seat is nearly identical
Feb 2, 2016, 12:19 pm
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Feb 2, 2016, 12:42 pm
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Oh, I would. Especially given that the CX product in J has declined dramatically and that the AA product on the 77W is finally almost (*) on par with many Asian airlines.
(*) 5 things are still missing, though:
- Decent food for the main meals (but the galley munchies are good)
- Wines above canteen plonks (I would not hire that Ken Chase...)
- The FAs' attitude and availability
- The FAs' attitude and availability
- The FAs' attitude and availability
Have I forgotten something ? Oh yes:
- The FA's attitude and availability
Feb 2, 2016, 1:27 pm
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Lol, I've actually had pretty decent experiences with #1, #3, #4, #5 and #6 on AA recently. But I certainly recognize there can be a lack of consistency.
I can't think of any reason to backtrack to choose AA J over CX J, and even AA F over CX J. I would add a bunch of hours for CX F though. I just love that seat and the service.
ETA: Ok, I guess I can get the WiFi rationale, though frankly I'd expect to be sleeping or eating most of the YVR-HKG flights...
I can't think of any reason to backtrack to choose AA J over CX J, and even AA F over CX J. I would add a bunch of hours for CX F though. I just love that seat and the service.
ETA: Ok, I guess I can get the WiFi rationale, though frankly I'd expect to be sleeping or eating most of the YVR-HKG flights...
Last edited by ijgordon; Feb 2, 2016 at 1:33 pm
Feb 2, 2016, 1:31 pm
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Is Wi-Fi important? Then maybe worth choosing AA.
And may I say how stunning it is to see CX posters say "may as well fly AA - lower price, WiFi, and equal food" with the CX degradation in service. Things must be really bad over there.
And may I say how stunning it is to see CX posters say "may as well fly AA - lower price, WiFi, and equal food" with the CX degradation in service. Things must be really bad over there.
Feb 2, 2016, 1:39 pm
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AA, in an ironic turn of events, proves superior in this regard.
Feb 2, 2016, 2:56 pm
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Oh, I would. Especially given that the CX product in J has declined dramatically and that the AA product on the 77W is finally almost (*) on par with many Asian airlines.
(*) 5 things are still missing, though:
- Decent food for the main meals (but the galley munchies are good)
- Wines above canteen plonks (I would not hire that Ken Chase...)
- The FAs' attitude and availability
- The FAs' attitude and availability
- The FAs' attitude and availability
Have I forgotten something ? Oh yes:
- The FA's attitude and availability
(*) 5 things are still missing, though:
- Decent food for the main meals (but the galley munchies are good)
- Wines above canteen plonks (I would not hire that Ken Chase...)
- The FAs' attitude and availability
- The FAs' attitude and availability
- The FAs' attitude and availability
Have I forgotten something ? Oh yes:
- The FA's attitude and availability
So with food and seat a wash (in my book), what it comes down to is:
AA advantages: Paid wifi, air vents
CX advantages: Save 8-9 hours in travel time, more consistent service
Sorry, I just don't see how flying YVR-DFW-HKG is better in this situation.
Feb 2, 2016, 3:43 pm
#13
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CX food is not equal to AA, it's inferior. The biggest issue I have is they serve the second full meal halfway across the Pacific (only a few hours after the departure meal), waking everyone up in the process. No pre arrival meal.
AA, in an ironic turn of events, proves superior in this regard.
AA, in an ironic turn of events, proves superior in this regard.
ETA: Forgot to mention air vents. A HUUUGE plus for AA. Even when the AA cabin is too warm, open your vent and voila! Really frustrating that Asian airlines rarely have individual air vents.
Last edited by no1cub17; Feb 2, 2016 at 4:59 pm
Feb 2, 2016, 4:15 pm
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Go with the better schedule, the seat is the same, the food is probably better on AA (CX J food is really unimpressive), better IFE selection on AA by the bit and wifi. Bigger upside on CX is dark cabins because they use solid curtains and keep them closed.