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[2016 NEWBIE LOUNGE] Ask Your "Newbie" AA Questions Here (flame free)
#91
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: PHL
Posts: 96
Once you've booked an award flight, does it cost anything to change times, dates, routing, etc. as long the origin and destination city are the same? Can that be done online or do you have to call in?

#92
Moderator: American AAdvantage, Mexico, and The Suggestion Box
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,952
See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...l-changes.html, particularly the wiki, for allowed changes, etc.

#93
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: PHL
Posts: 96
The changes you mention can usually be accomplished without fees, but you will have to call in.
See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...l-changes.html, particularly the wiki, for allowed changes, etc.
See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...l-changes.html, particularly the wiki, for allowed changes, etc.

#94
Moderator: American AAdvantage, Mexico, and The Suggestion Box
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,952
My fiancé got the Citi AAdvantage Platinum card back in November and met the spending requirement in December. Her statement closing date was 12/22/15 and the online Citi statement shows that she is owed 54,000 miles to her AA account. Yet, as of 12/30/15, still no miles. After her statement closed during the previous month, on 11/22/15, the earned miles (just 151 miles), posted correctly on 11/23/15.
Why is it taking so long during this second month with the large bonus miles? Is anyone else seeing a delay in their credit card-earned miles posting?
Why is it taking so long during this second month with the large bonus miles? Is anyone else seeing a delay in their credit card-earned miles posting?
Citi claims, if I recall correctly, it may take a certain number of days (is it sixty?) for the incentive bonus miles to post. Whatever the time line is, I'd write Citi using their online contact e-form (available from our account online) if those miles have not posted within the stated time line.

#95
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 47
Will upgrading tickets on award travel (or changing dates for that matter) after the devaluation for tickets that were booked before the devaluation use the old chart or the new chart?
For example, take the following two scenarios:
Situation 1.
I book 2 tickets for JL on Y class for June 15 right now, at 32,500 each
Availability opens up for the dates I want in F on June 1st. I call AA to make the change
Will AA charge me the difference of 52,500-32,500 or new 80,000-32,500 miles for the upgrade?
Situation 2:
I book 2 tickets for JL on F class next December 15, at 62,500 each
Availability opens up for June 15 on June 1st. I call AA to make the change.
Will this be a free change or will AA require me to pay the difference in miles (80,000-62,500)?
For example, take the following two scenarios:
Situation 1.
I book 2 tickets for JL on Y class for June 15 right now, at 32,500 each
Availability opens up for the dates I want in F on June 1st. I call AA to make the change
Will AA charge me the difference of 52,500-32,500 or new 80,000-32,500 miles for the upgrade?
Situation 2:
I book 2 tickets for JL on F class next December 15, at 62,500 each
Availability opens up for June 15 on June 1st. I call AA to make the change.
Will this be a free change or will AA require me to pay the difference in miles (80,000-62,500)?

#96
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: DAY
Programs: Marriott Platinum, HHonors Diamond, AA ExPLT
Posts: 116
Situation 1.
I book 2 tickets for JL on Y class for June 15 right now, at 32,500 each
Availability opens up for the dates I want in F on June 1st. I call AA to make the change
Will AA charge me the difference of 52,500-32,500 or new 80,000-32,500 miles for the upgrade?
Situation 2:
I book 2 tickets for JL on F class next December 15, at 62,500 each
Availability opens up for June 15 on June 1st. I call AA to make the change.
Will this be a free change or will AA require me to pay the difference in miles (80,000-62,500)?
1 - if you make the chance after March, then you'll pay the difference under the new chart (to 80k).
2- if you just change date on your existing award you should be fine. No change to the actual award, just moving the date of travel.

#97
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: DUB
Programs: IHG Spire Amb, Honors Diamond, BAEC Silver
Posts: 65
Question on award routing rules connecting through DOH...I understand to connect between regions through DOH (say Europe and Asia 2) without pricing as two awards, inbound and outbound flights through DOH must be on QR.
However can you connect through AUH after DOH (with inbound/outbound QR flights) and still have a single award? As in would SIN-DOH-AUH-LHR in F be a 70k award or would it be two awards, 40k and 45k, due to the AUH connection?
Thanks!
However can you connect through AUH after DOH (with inbound/outbound QR flights) and still have a single award? As in would SIN-DOH-AUH-LHR in F be a 70k award or would it be two awards, 40k and 45k, due to the AUH connection?
Thanks!

#98
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1
Booking CX awards using aa miles for future 2016 travels
I travel monthly to Asia from LAX often using AA miles booking 67.5k miles either to Hk or thru HK. I understand awards will be getting more costly in future but if i book 1 way First class CX flights using 67.5k AA miles, can i change dates without increase in mileage ? I.E. i book monthly flights now at 67.5 and change the dates once i know exactly the days i want to fly? Can i use the 67.5 awards after March if i only make a date change? I assume i will use 8-10 flights each way over next 12 months and would prefer to use the 67.5 vs 110k each way

#99
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, SC
Programs: AA Plat, SPG/Marriot Gold, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Expl
Posts: 2,363
I travel monthly to Asia from LAX often using AA miles booking 67.5k miles either to Hk or thru HK. I understand awards will be getting more costly in future but if i book 1 way First class CX flights using 67.5k AA miles, can i change dates without increase in mileage ? I.E. i book monthly flights now at 67.5 and change the dates once i know exactly the days i want to fly? Can i use the 67.5 awards after March if i only make a date change? I assume i will use 8-10 flights each way over next 12 months and would prefer to use the 67.5 vs 110k each way

#100
Moderator: American AAdvantage, Mexico, and The Suggestion Box
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,952
I travel monthly to Asia from LAX often using AA miles booking 67.5k miles either to Hk or thru HK. I understand awards will be getting more costly in future but if i book 1 way First class CX flights using 67.5k AA miles, can i change dates without increase in mileage ? I.E. i book monthly flights now at 67.5 and change the dates once i know exactly the days i want to fly? Can i use the 67.5 awards after March if i only make a date change? I assume i will use 8-10 flights each way over next 12 months and would prefer to use the 67.5 vs 110k each way
It has been discussed and iirc there is some consensus that changes within the allowed parameters discussed in the wikipost here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...l-changes.html (link) will most likely not incur redepositing miles and incurring the new miles costs. AFAIK, the built in limitation is awards can not be extended beyond one year from the date the award was first secured (as stated immediately above, after the original ticket was issued).

#101
Moderator: American AAdvantage, Mexico, and The Suggestion Box
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,952
Question on award routing rules connecting through DOH...I understand to connect between regions through DOH (say Europe and Asia 2) without pricing as two awards, inbound and outbound flights through DOH must be on QR.
However can you connect through AUH after DOH (with inbound/outbound QR flights) and still have a single award? As in would SIN-DOH-AUH-LHR in F be a 70k award or would it be two awards, 40k and 45k, due to the AUH connection?
Thanks!
However can you connect through AUH after DOH (with inbound/outbound QR flights) and still have a single award? As in would SIN-DOH-AUH-LHR in F be a 70k award or would it be two awards, 40k and 45k, due to the AUH connection?
Thanks!

#102
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 214
Quote:
Originally Posted by patpatpatme View Post
does someone know of aadvantage partners that permit stopovers or open jaws on AA awards? in particular looking at departure from LAX with a stopover in one of the following cities- NYC, LHR or CDG
If you're looking to use AA miles, it doesn't matter what partner airline you fly, as AA's routing rules apply. You can do an open jaw, since all AA awards are one-way, but no stopovers over 24hrs.
If you are looking for a stopover, you will want to use a different mileage currency. For example, Alaska MP still allows one stopover on international itineraries. Downside of MP is that you can't mix partners, so you'd have to stick to all AA, for example.
just wanted to say thanks for flyingeph and jdiver, i ended up just booking a direct flight LAX-CDG on air tahiti. cant be 36k AA miles RT to EU!!! at the time i didnt realize they changed their stopover rules
Originally Posted by patpatpatme View Post
does someone know of aadvantage partners that permit stopovers or open jaws on AA awards? in particular looking at departure from LAX with a stopover in one of the following cities- NYC, LHR or CDG
If you're looking to use AA miles, it doesn't matter what partner airline you fly, as AA's routing rules apply. You can do an open jaw, since all AA awards are one-way, but no stopovers over 24hrs.
If you are looking for a stopover, you will want to use a different mileage currency. For example, Alaska MP still allows one stopover on international itineraries. Downside of MP is that you can't mix partners, so you'd have to stick to all AA, for example.
just wanted to say thanks for flyingeph and jdiver, i ended up just booking a direct flight LAX-CDG on air tahiti. cant be 36k AA miles RT to EU!!! at the time i didnt realize they changed their stopover rules


#103
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 189
I recently booked some cheap long-haul travel for July of this year on AA. Under the current mileage accrual rules, I'd earn 28k RDM from the trip. Under AA's fare-based scheme, I'd earn a meager 7k miles instead.
Is travel booked now (prior to the changeover) going to earn under the old rates? Or am I going to be screwed on travel flown after July 1, 2016, regardless when it was booked? Curious as to what the consensus here is on that.
Thanks.
Is travel booked now (prior to the changeover) going to earn under the old rates? Or am I going to be screwed on travel flown after July 1, 2016, regardless when it was booked? Curious as to what the consensus here is on that.
Thanks.

#104
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, SC
Programs: AA Plat, SPG/Marriot Gold, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Expl
Posts: 2,363
I recently booked some cheap long-haul travel for July of this year on AA. Under the current mileage accrual rules, I'd earn 28k RDM from the trip. Under AA's fare-based scheme, I'd earn a meager 7k miles instead.
Is travel booked now (prior to the changeover) going to earn under the old rates? Or am I going to be screwed on travel flown after July 1, 2016, regardless when it was booked? Curious as to what the consensus here is on that.
Thanks.
Is travel booked now (prior to the changeover) going to earn under the old rates? Or am I going to be screwed on travel flown after July 1, 2016, regardless when it was booked? Curious as to what the consensus here is on that.
Thanks.
That said, we don't have a date for the changeover to revenue-based earnings. All AA has said was "later in 2016".

#105
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 1

Want to transfer 60k miles from SPG to AA,
I know last year they ran a 20% bonus for this transfer. Anyone know the history /likelihood they will run something similar again soon?
I know last year they ran a 20% bonus for this transfer. Anyone know the history /likelihood they will run something similar again soon?
