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[2016 NEWBIE LOUNGE] Ask Your "Newbie" AA Questions Here (flame free)
#76
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: STL
Programs: AA
Posts: 167
777 and 772
So I realize that LHR-JFK routes are on the newly refurbished 777s but does anyone know when they will start using 772s for the Asia routes? For example, I see that 777 is still being used on DFW-NRT route (although ORD-NRT seems to be on a 787 now) deep into the middle of this year.

#77
Moderator: American AAdvantage, Mexico, and The Suggestion Box
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,952
So I realize that LHR-JFK routes are on the newly refurbished 777s but does anyone know when they will start using 772s for the Asia routes? For example, I see that 777 is still being used on DFW-NRT route (although ORD-NRT seems to be on a 787 now) deep into the middle of this year.
The problem is that AA has 47 777-223ERs, and seven are converted. And the seat AA "designed" (a dumbed down version of the OEM seat) became enough of a problem for Zodiac they got way behind. 787s parked in the desert, rather than producing revenue; 777s not getting their seats. AA cancelled the Zodiac contract, and at least AFAIK they have not signed ink with a new supplier.
Short version: it's gonna be a while.

#78
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: PHL
Posts: 96
I'm glad no question is too stupid here
I've accumulated a fair number of AAdvantage miles, but I'm about to redeem them for the first time. I've found some fares for a trip I'm going to take where I can get >$0.02/mile, so digging into my stash is the clear right option. But I haven't done this before so I figured I would bring my questions here!
I'm still coordinating the exact arrival and departure dates with some friends (who will be travelling separately), but I've found a few possible itineraries at the minimum 25k miles (it's a domestic flight), for our two most viable options, Fri-Weds and Sat-Weds. Friday has two departures while Saturday has four, so I figured I'd put a hold on the Fri-Weds itinerary while I wait for our plans to solidify. If we decide to leave on Saturday instead, can I change the hold (i.e., keep the Weds departure I've held) as long as the Saturday awards are still available?
Another question: I've got a Citi AAdvantage Platinum Select card, brand new in fact. Would I get the free checked bag/Group 1 boarding benefits if I use the card to pay the ~$10 in fees?
Thanks in advance for dealing with my silly questions!

I'm still coordinating the exact arrival and departure dates with some friends (who will be travelling separately), but I've found a few possible itineraries at the minimum 25k miles (it's a domestic flight), for our two most viable options, Fri-Weds and Sat-Weds. Friday has two departures while Saturday has four, so I figured I'd put a hold on the Fri-Weds itinerary while I wait for our plans to solidify. If we decide to leave on Saturday instead, can I change the hold (i.e., keep the Weds departure I've held) as long as the Saturday awards are still available?
Another question: I've got a Citi AAdvantage Platinum Select card, brand new in fact. Would I get the free checked bag/Group 1 boarding benefits if I use the card to pay the ~$10 in fees?
Thanks in advance for dealing with my silly questions!

#79
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 11
Flying AA biz HKG-DFW in a week, no OW Elite Status, excited about checking out lounges in HKG Airport especially Cathay's lounges, which lounges will I have access to as a biz passenger and which one should definitely visit for a great experience. Thanks.

#80
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: AY+ Plat, Marriott Plat, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 2,846
I'm glad no question is too stupid here I've accumulated a fair number of AAdvantage miles, but I'm about to redeem them for the first time. I've found some fares for a trip I'm going to take where I can get >$0.02/mile, so digging into my stash is the clear right option. But I haven't done this before so I figured I would bring my questions here!
I'm still coordinating the exact arrival and departure dates with some friends (who will be travelling separately), but I've found a few possible itineraries at the minimum 25k miles (it's a domestic flight), for our two most viable options, Fri-Weds and Sat-Weds. Friday has two departures while Saturday has four, so I figured I'd put a hold on the Fri-Weds itinerary while I wait for our plans to solidify. If we decide to leave on Saturday instead, can I change the hold (i.e., keep the Weds departure I've held) as long as the Saturday awards are still available?
Another question: I've got a Citi AAdvantage Platinum Select card, brand new in fact. Would I get the free checked bag/Group 1 boarding benefits if I use the card to pay the ~$10 in fees?
Thanks in advance for dealing with my silly questions!
I'm still coordinating the exact arrival and departure dates with some friends (who will be travelling separately), but I've found a few possible itineraries at the minimum 25k miles (it's a domestic flight), for our two most viable options, Fri-Weds and Sat-Weds. Friday has two departures while Saturday has four, so I figured I'd put a hold on the Fri-Weds itinerary while I wait for our plans to solidify. If we decide to leave on Saturday instead, can I change the hold (i.e., keep the Weds departure I've held) as long as the Saturday awards are still available?
Another question: I've got a Citi AAdvantage Platinum Select card, brand new in fact. Would I get the free checked bag/Group 1 boarding benefits if I use the card to pay the ~$10 in fees?
Thanks in advance for dealing with my silly questions!

#81
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: AY+ Plat, Marriott Plat, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 2,846
I think the nicest CX business lounge is The Bridge. I also like the noodle bar in The Wing. If it is open, I'd also visit the Qantas lounge.

#82
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: STL
Programs: AA
Posts: 167
There is a thread (or two) on that.
The problem is that AA has 47 777-223ERs, and seven are converted. And the seat AA "designed" (a dumbed down version of the OEM seat) became enough of a problem for Zodiac they got way behind. 787s parked in the desert, rather than producing revenue; 777s not getting their seats. AA cancelled the Zodiac contract, and at least AFAIK they have not signed ink with a new supplier.
Short version: it's gonna be a while.
The problem is that AA has 47 777-223ERs, and seven are converted. And the seat AA "designed" (a dumbed down version of the OEM seat) became enough of a problem for Zodiac they got way behind. 787s parked in the desert, rather than producing revenue; 777s not getting their seats. AA cancelled the Zodiac contract, and at least AFAIK they have not signed ink with a new supplier.
Short version: it's gonna be a while.
Thanks for the information. That's a big bummer

#83
Join Date: Jul 2008
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 75
I'd second the noodle bar in The Wing. My last 2 trips to HK have been on Cathay, and The Wing is extremely convenient for gates 1-4. Returning from HKG on AA in 2 weeks, and look forward to trying The Bridge or The Pier. Though I may hit the noodle bar based upon reviews of AA meals (OK, but hardly CX).

#84
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Munich, Deutscheland
Programs: Try to be elite again... :)
Posts: 478
I have 2 questions...
1. Etihad - I read all details on AA website and my understanding is that we can earn AA miles by flying Etihad, but those miles might not be elite qualifying? It is true? On Etihad earning page of AA website, there is no such indication at all about EQM... If those miles are elite qualifying, then it seems only Etihad will earn you 100% miles even if we fly the cheapest fare class? This is the link I looked at: http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...nes/etihad.jsp
Please be noted that I am talking about booking a flight on Etihad directly (not AA code shared flights)...
2. Award booking - I wonder whether we can use SWU on award booking with AA? For example, if I have an award booking from Munich to SFO with AA, can I apply one SWU to this booking? Or SWU can only be applied to cash bookings?
Thanks for the answer!
1. Etihad - I read all details on AA website and my understanding is that we can earn AA miles by flying Etihad, but those miles might not be elite qualifying? It is true? On Etihad earning page of AA website, there is no such indication at all about EQM... If those miles are elite qualifying, then it seems only Etihad will earn you 100% miles even if we fly the cheapest fare class? This is the link I looked at: http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...nes/etihad.jsp
Please be noted that I am talking about booking a flight on Etihad directly (not AA code shared flights)...
2. Award booking - I wonder whether we can use SWU on award booking with AA? For example, if I have an award booking from Munich to SFO with AA, can I apply one SWU to this booking? Or SWU can only be applied to cash bookings?
Thanks for the answer!
Last edited by Tommys888; Jan 3, 16 at 5:29 am

#85
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Chicago
Programs: AA Gold, UA Gold, HH Gold, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 334
hey guys quick question - i earned 9232 EQM between august-december 2015 and earned another 4000-something the other day. however, on my account, the 9232 miles that i earned last year are now gone and my elite qualifying status to progress to gold only says 4130. i was wondering if there could be a mistake (because 1 year technically hasn't fully passed yet) or if whether the EQM really do expire after the day of the new year.

#86
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: ORD
Programs: BA, AA, SQ, UA, AC, WS, MR TIT
Posts: 8,468
hey guys quick question - i earned 9232 EQM between august-december 2015 and earned another 4000-something the other day. however, on my account, the 9232 miles that i earned last year are now gone and my elite qualifying status to progress to gold only says 4130. i was wondering if there could be a mistake (because 1 year technically hasn't fully passed yet) or if whether the EQM really do expire after the day of the new year.
It seems that your flying activity is done (flight departure time) after that cut hour resulting in being posted for traveling 2016.

#87
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Chicago
Programs: AA Gold, UA Gold, HH Gold, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 334
At 12.01am PST 01.01.2016 all accounts EQM and EQS are zeroed out and any flying done after that hour is considered for the new year 2016 not for the previous one 2015.
It seems that your flying activity is done (flight departure time) after that cut hour resulting in being posted for traveling 2016.
It seems that your flying activity is done (flight departure time) after that cut hour resulting in being posted for traveling 2016.



#88
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, SC
Programs: AA Plat, SPG/Marriot Gold, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Expl
Posts: 2,363

#90
Moderator: American AAdvantage, Mexico, and The Suggestion Box
Join Date: May 2000
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